just make a play on the ball without endangering anyone its not that complicated, play basketball not the foul game, and hug fouls as they with from now on be know are done primarily to prevent the and 1, obviously
― lag∞n, Monday, 18 December 2023 00:08 (two years ago)
legalize fouls imo
― polyamerie "it's more than this 1 thing" (m bison), Monday, 18 December 2023 00:11 (two years ago)
the nba has been good about getting more basketball in basketball games, via rules around flagrant fouls, the hack-a, take fouls, having fewer timeouts, and now they simply must eliminate the hugging foul, if you cant stop a lebron and 1 without hugging or hurting him then the man should get his and 1
― lag∞n, Monday, 18 December 2023 00:16 (two years ago)
or just let him dunk, thats the defenders prerogative
― lag∞n, Monday, 18 December 2023 00:17 (two years ago)
if you cant stop a lebron and 1 without hugging or hurting him then the man should get his and 1
During most of the game defenders will not foul intentionally, because it isn't strategic. For at least the first three and a half quarters there's plenty of game left, more shots to take and good defense to play to win the game. But when the game is very close and nearly over there will always be intentional fouls. Logic dictates that a dunk is a much easier, more certain way to score two points than taking two free throws, so you stop the dunk and dgif about fouling.
I guess you could up the ante for fouls in the last two minutes even further than currently, but that would have to apply to every foul in order to make sense, not just hug-fouls. Otherwise you're just back to penalizing intention differently and making the refs figure it out. Or else you are penalizing hugging differently because it 'looks bad'.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 18 December 2023 01:27 (two years ago)
you could just eliminate hug fouls
― lag∞n, Monday, 18 December 2023 01:38 (two years ago)
so I guess 'looks bad' is a good enough reason for you. but it won't change anything of substance
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 18 December 2023 01:45 (two years ago)
hugging up is substantially different than other intentional fouls the whole point of it is to eliminate continuation, and it looks bad, but thats why it looks bad
― lag∞n, Monday, 18 December 2023 01:47 (two years ago)
if you eliminate dangerously hard fouls which has already happened, and you eliminate hugging fouls which which lord willing will happen, then even intentional fouls have continuation, and were playing basketball, as god intended
― lag∞n, Monday, 18 December 2023 01:50 (two years ago)
the take foul rule and the refs' implementation of it is far from perfect but it's so much better to have it on the books than not. you could definitely do the exact same as the hug foul as far as penalizing it with free throws + retaining possession.
― call all destroyer, Monday, 18 December 2023 01:54 (two years ago)
i would be fine with other obviously non basketball play type fouls getting the same treatment, pushing, grabbing for instance
― lag∞n, Monday, 18 December 2023 02:24 (two years ago)
it would be a big change in how the NBA is played bcuz you see this exact play like 5-6 times per game at least. bit this just makes no sense esp in a world where 20% of the league is setting historic highs in per possession scoring
Maxey fouled out on this pic.twitter.com/hLESEacKZx— Brett Usher (@UsherNBA) January 11, 2024
― slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 11 January 2024 19:36 (two years ago)
yeah i hate that foul
― lag∞n, Thursday, 11 January 2024 19:41 (two years ago)
it has to change, truly ruining the game flow and aesthetics
― infinite wiggles (Spottie), Thursday, 11 January 2024 19:41 (two years ago)
literally looks like the kind of thing they would have in a training video for “here’s how to play close but not foul”
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 11 January 2024 22:30 (two years ago)
It’s so easy to eradicate too. Just swallow the whistle early in the game and the players stop doing it.
― infinite wiggles (Spottie), Thursday, 11 January 2024 22:38 (two years ago)
yeah i hate that shit
― micah, Friday, 12 January 2024 01:20 (two years ago)
also if you wedgie the ball it should be side out for the defense not this jump ball garbage. if you shoot that badly it should be a turnover
― micah, Friday, 12 January 2024 01:21 (two years ago)
Mentioned this on the podcast on Monday, but this stuff is a prime example of why the 65-game rule for awards sucks.Haliburton has $41M on the line. He’s wildly incentivized to come back early to become eligible for All-NBA. Now, looks like he didn’t respond well to coming back https://t.co/ggUMBJraa3— Sam Vecenie (@Sam_Vecenie) January 23, 2024
― infinite wiggles (Spottie), Wednesday, 24 January 2024 00:17 (two years ago)
Sometimes the best ability is availability!
― octobeard, Wednesday, 24 January 2024 00:22 (two years ago)
100%
― truly humbled underdog (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 24 January 2024 02:56 (two years ago)
"The league is out of whack & I do expect there to be changes in the rules into next season that's tries to bring this back a little bit that gives the defense a little bit of more of their rights back."@WindhorstESPN on the recent offensive explosion.pic.twitter.com/NhmppC7soh— ClutchPoints (@ClutchPoints) January 29, 2024
― infinite wiggles (Spottie), Monday, 29 January 2024 21:47 (two years ago)
haralabob mentioned getting rid of defensive 3 seconds, sort of feel like that would just increase 3pt rate? not sure if that would be a desired outcome
― truly humbled underdog (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 30 January 2024 01:15 (two years ago)
well you could stick yr big man in the middle of the paint and maybe that allows your perimeter defenders to press out more, i wouldnt mind seeing it that thing where guys have to tap their foot out the paint is dumb
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 01:17 (two years ago)
It would help defenses a lot imo. It’s one less thing to “worry about” when you’re out there
― infinite wiggles (Spottie), Tuesday, 30 January 2024 01:30 (two years ago)
i dont mind getting rid of defensive 3, thats the fiba rule already right?
i would also add that extending the 3 pt line/getting rid of the corner 3 would rule, it would make the long bombers even more valuable and discourage the average 3 poit shooters of the league to mix it up and other shots bc the risk calculation will shift (either that or people will just practice more long 3s and get good again)
― polyamerie "it's more than this 1 thing" (m bison), Tuesday, 30 January 2024 01:36 (two years ago)
i dont think they should get rid of the corner three but i do think they should widen the court and extend the three point line so its not short in the corner
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 01:40 (two years ago)
i think widening the court there would just make that shot (already one of the hardest to defend) even harder to close out on
― micah, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 02:16 (two years ago)
i think getting rid of defensive 3 seconds would need to be tested out for a while somewhere like Ignite, G league, summer league and preseason games before I'd feel good about making it official
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 30 January 2024 03:24 (two years ago)
yeah having the g league as a testing ground for this stuff is nice
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 03:24 (two years ago)
only a matter of time now until we see the absurdity of some half injured star playing 20 minutes in a scheduled loss, cherry picking the whole time
― micah, Wednesday, 31 January 2024 22:23 (two years ago)
continue to feel like there are no victims here and the players have only their union to blame
― truly humbled underdog (k3vin k.), Thursday, 1 February 2024 01:17 (two years ago)
for example, hali is going to be generationally rich and the pacers are going to save some money to spend on other players. whos the loser here?
― truly humbled underdog (k3vin k.), Thursday, 1 February 2024 01:19 (two years ago)
they should give me the extra money just an idea
― lag∞n, Thursday, 1 February 2024 01:22 (two years ago)
hali could still easily make the cut fwiw, he can miss four more games
― lag∞n, Thursday, 1 February 2024 01:24 (two years ago)
it would be good for indy if he didnt make it tho
right I mean who’s rooting for him? his wife? he’ll get the recognition eventually, who cares. jamal murray is probably going to end up being ineligible for all-NBA too, which is best for everyone involved except his agent
― truly humbled underdog (k3vin k.), Thursday, 1 February 2024 01:26 (two years ago)
certain guys might have to take out a payment plan on their seventh house or whatever I guess
― truly humbled underdog (k3vin k.), Thursday, 1 February 2024 01:27 (two years ago)
couple good games marred by absence tonight jokic out vs okc and luka and kyrie out vs wolves
― lag∞n, Thursday, 1 February 2024 01:34 (two years ago)
i do think all-nba is pretty cool as a historical record, the original sin was tying something so fallible and subject to randomness to compensation in the first place
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 1 February 2024 01:47 (two years ago)
the cba is byzantine but thats what makes it good, they should add another rule to try to correct this that fucks things up in some other way
― lag∞n, Thursday, 1 February 2024 01:52 (two years ago)
― lag∞n, Thursday, 1 February 2024
i thought that the difference was kind of irrelevant for cap purposes no?
― micah, Thursday, 1 February 2024 02:31 (two years ago)
the money counts towards the cap tho theyll prob be over either way but gotta try to avoid the dreaded luxury tax aprons
― lag∞n, Thursday, 1 February 2024 02:34 (two years ago)
i hate the apron so
― Clay, Thursday, 1 February 2024 02:40 (two years ago)
the first apron im like ok this might not be ideal but its not that bad then out of nowhere heres the second apron and it is just the worst
― lag∞n, Thursday, 1 February 2024 02:42 (two years ago)
dont get me started on that second apron ooooh
― Clay, Thursday, 1 February 2024 02:43 (two years ago)
― slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 1 February 2024 15:34 (two years ago)
i owned an oculus and the novelty wore off in about 1 week and i never put it on my head again. i just dont see this sticking for mass audience but maybe im wrong idk. i just dont want something on my face/head for long stretches of time.
NBA League Pass on the Apple Vision Pro looks incredible. pic.twitter.com/8XFs9CQ9qk— Kevin O'Connor (@KevinOConnorNBA) February 1, 2024
― infinite wiggles (Spottie), Thursday, 1 February 2024 19:04 (two years ago)
jordan I am not going to feel bad about someone getting 50 instead of 60 million dollars I’m sorry! and it’s better for the teams anyway. they should just scrap the connection between awards and compensation, let the teams and players negotiate what they’re worth. the supermax thing has already had negative consequences even before the game threshold
― truly humbled underdog (k3vin k.), Thursday, 1 February 2024 19:15 (two years ago)
xp i haven't used vr/ar enough to develop a strong opinion about it, but that video looks like a deeply unappealing experience!
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Thursday, 1 February 2024 19:20 (two years ago)