i think the way they did it means there is basically zero downside for the fan — if you don’t want to pay attention that’s very simple & it won’t impact your ability to follow the season otherwise. the 3-4 games in vegas should be pretty fun. i have a hard time getting worked up about this in a negative or positive way until proven otherwise
― slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Friday, 3 November 2023 20:19 (two years ago)
I'm curious why the office thinks it needs stuff like this and the play-in tournament
You just know that they held dozens upon dozens of meetings about whether to do the tournaments and what they should look like if they did, and focus groups were held, and white papers written, so that all the league front office people looked smart, busy and productive. But most especially like they were intently focused on making more money for the owners.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 3 November 2023 20:22 (two years ago)
I mean easiest way is to make the regular season matter more is to reduce the number of games and playoff teams but I don't think any major sports league has ever done that
personally I wish they'd kick around that All-Star 4th quarter idea more, where you take the highest score at the end of 3, add 24, and say whoever hits that score wins. that feels like it would make the games feel way more exciting, everyone loves game winning shots and it would get rid of some of the gamesmanship in the final minute that grinds down the whole experience. they should at least try doing it for a preseason
― frogbs, Friday, 3 November 2023 20:24 (two years ago)
i can answer that question pretty simply for you — the NBA’s revenue is still largely based on television money. the league is renegotiating its TV deals with the major networks. the major networks have told them (slash they realized themselves), your regular season is devalued and that has to be accounted for in this deal. so the NBA is now trying to reinvigorate its regular season so it can still hang the networks over a balcony and shake out their pockets
― slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Friday, 3 November 2023 20:25 (two years ago)
an important addendum to my post is that because salaries are tied to the cap and the cap is tied to TV money, the players have equal incentive as the league office to prop up the value of the regular season
― slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Friday, 3 November 2023 20:26 (two years ago)
think silver is prob feeling pretty confident re trying new things after the success of the play in tourney + new lottery format too
― lag∞n, Friday, 3 November 2023 20:30 (two years ago)
for sure
― slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Friday, 3 November 2023 20:33 (two years ago)
yeah, worth a shot anyway, like you said no downside
― infinite wiggles (Spottie), Friday, 3 November 2023 20:39 (two years ago)
i think i’d prefer the league be overly experimental than overly static, if i had to choose
― slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Friday, 3 November 2023 20:45 (two years ago)
true, not everything will work obv but if you have a league built on constant evolution then it's easy to pivot as needed.
― infinite wiggles (Spottie), Friday, 3 November 2023 21:09 (two years ago)
like they already did away with the all star game draft. was fun but probably ran its course.
Allow G League teams to draft the 2nd round instead of the NBA teams then enforce relegation on the bottom 2 NBA and top 2 G League teams.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Friday, 3 November 2023 21:16 (two years ago)
Elite https://t.co/HNFc4A6BAc pic.twitter.com/9AFSMnfwX7— Automatic (@automaticnba) November 3, 2023
― Jeff, Friday, 3 November 2023 21:57 (two years ago)
haha
― infinite wiggles (Spottie), Friday, 3 November 2023 21:58 (two years ago)
a man of the people
― Clay, Friday, 3 November 2023 22:46 (two years ago)
hoop collective pod did a long segment on the grizz today. apparently the offensive numbers when bane/smart/jarren on the court together have been completely ghastly. also derrick rose has been like a -100,000,000 (approximate) in his minutes this year
was also reading this "convo" on the athletic between hollinger and kelly iko and iko said this of marcus smart:
Defensively, he’s definitely been a step slower than what we’ve become accustomed to. He’s tried to make up for it by being more aggressive and taking more risks which hasn’t paid off but I’d imagine he improves his defensive output by the 15-20 game mark. I know the Grizzlies probably want that done as soon as possible.
― slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Friday, 3 November 2023 22:52 (two years ago)
Jalen Williams said on the JJ pod that before he hit a growth spurt, he was 5'10" with a 6'11" wingspan!!!
― Iguodalai Lama (Leee), Friday, 3 November 2023 23:22 (two years ago)
lol tie his shoes without bending down
― lag∞n, Friday, 3 November 2023 23:24 (two years ago)
marcus defense was not totally up to his standards last year fwiw, hes put a lot of miles on diving around and whatnot xp
― lag∞n, Friday, 3 November 2023 23:25 (two years ago)
celtics sold at the right time
― infinite wiggles (Spottie), Friday, 3 November 2023 23:25 (two years ago)
yeah sad but true
― lag∞n, Friday, 3 November 2023 23:29 (two years ago)
and they somehow got a better player and draft picks back
― lag∞n, Friday, 3 November 2023 23:31 (two years ago)
Lol at this promo of the players trying to muster enthusiasm for the in-season tournament. They should hold up a newspaper so we know the hostages are still alive.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Friday, 3 November 2023 23:36 (two years ago)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F-Bs6_ka8AA1NPU?format=jpg&name=small
― infinite wiggles (Spottie), Friday, 3 November 2023 23:39 (two years ago)
puro pinche grayson
― oatly carmichael (m bison), Friday, 3 November 2023 23:40 (two years ago)
its pretty funny that the suns chose lowriders to celebrate chicano culture but at the same time yeah theyre pretty sick
― lag∞n, Friday, 3 November 2023 23:42 (two years ago)
why do these guys part their hair at the side of their skull i don't get it
― Clay, Friday, 3 November 2023 23:56 (two years ago)
yeah the custom car they built for this looks incredible. booker leaning into his mexican heritage has gone over very well in the valley.
― infinite wiggles (Spottie), Saturday, 4 November 2023 00:01 (two years ago)
its pretty cool, booker turned out to be a cool guy
― lag∞n, Saturday, 4 November 2023 00:02 (two years ago)
ah a bucks fan hit a halfcourt shot for 10k very nice
― lag∞n, Saturday, 4 November 2023 00:23 (two years ago)
Watching dubs at OKC. The blue court isn’t ideal for watching the game. Judging by the score, the players don’t seem to mind tho
― that's not my post, Saturday, 4 November 2023 00:46 (two years ago)
had no idea gallo was getting minutes for the wiz
― slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 4 November 2023 00:49 (two years ago)
both dame and giannis have had up and down calls go against them in the first half, rare
― lag∞n, Saturday, 4 November 2023 00:53 (two years ago)
Dubs with 11 TOs at 5 min left in the 2nd.
― that's not my post, Saturday, 4 November 2023 01:02 (two years ago)
OKC with like 8 guys that can shoot the 3 from the wing
― that's not my post, Saturday, 4 November 2023 01:04 (two years ago)
adrian griffin just said that the players told him he needed to go back to drop overage with lopez lol, and to his credit he did it
― lag∞n, Saturday, 4 November 2023 01:11 (two years ago)
― infinite wiggles (Spottie), Friday, November 3, 2023 7:25 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
i forgot about avery bradley until now but that was kinda similar, guy with overinflated defensive rep sucking as soon as he left the celtics
― ciderpress, Saturday, 4 November 2023 01:21 (two years ago)
i was just thinking about the smart trade from the grizzlies perspective and uh, it's a little dicey
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 4 November 2023 01:27 (two years ago)
smart’s defensive rep was only slightly inflated (the year he won DPOY). bradley was a diff story. also just much worse in general
― slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 4 November 2023 01:28 (two years ago)
if he’s just lost a step then it won’t be what they wanted but i feel like he’ll still be pretty good at least the next two years. and he really isn’t paid a ton
― slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 4 November 2023 01:30 (two years ago)
you do have to wonder if they would’ve made a diff series of moves if they knew that adams was gonna miss the season tho
― slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 4 November 2023 01:31 (two years ago)
pacers will win the nba mid season tournament
― micah, Saturday, 4 November 2023 01:32 (two years ago)
same
― ciderpress, Saturday, 4 November 2023 01:32 (two years ago)
i don't think smart will suddenly be bad or anything but they traded two firsts and their backup point guard who was actually important for them, and i'm not sure i understand what the objective was
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 4 November 2023 01:45 (two years ago)
and he played starting point guard when ja was out which was a lot and they were good
― lag∞n, Saturday, 4 November 2023 01:47 (two years ago)
now hes on the wizards whats the point of that
― lag∞n, Saturday, 4 November 2023 01:48 (two years ago)
bruson with a huge game tonight wonder whos guarding him hold on i will check who plays point guard for the bucks now
― lag∞n, Saturday, 4 November 2023 01:53 (two years ago)
welp the bucks won, barely, they didnt look great they didnt look bad they looked ok, the dame giannis synergy is not really happening yet
― lag∞n, Saturday, 4 November 2023 02:22 (two years ago)
that’s two winnable games blown by the knicks vs playoff teams in this young season
― is he disgruntled adrian? (voodoo chili), Saturday, 4 November 2023 02:25 (two years ago)
the nuggets court just makes it hard to see the ball
― k3vin k., Saturday, 4 November 2023 02:27 (two years ago)