golden state warriors thread

maybe the celebs make him nervous

it must be jack staring into his soul without his sunglasses now

"Will never forgive you for Game 4 ..."

Steph left a special message on a signed jersey for Lonnie Walker IV 😅

(via @lonniewalkeriv / IG) pic.twitter.com/eF5unn4H1i

— Warriors on NBCS (@NBCSWarriors) May 14, 2023

Really curious to see how this offseason plays out. After that Lakers series it's hard to see the core 3 getting another chip. Dray and Klay are both going into the last year of their contracts. I'd like to see them get more serious about Kuminga's development and make him a starter.

The core is still strong imo. Klay had a bad series and currys threes weren’t falling. Two of those games were nailbiters and I think they match up better vs the nuggets then the lakers. Poole turning into an extremely detrimental player killed them too. I think they’ve got another run but they have to get creative w these contracts and trades to bring in some more vets and size

All the cap issues spelled out in one place: https://theathletic.com/4530603/2023/05/18/warriors-salary-cap-roster-sign-trade/

They don't have an MLE
They can't receive anyone from a sign and trade
They're already past the second luxury tax threshold with just 10 players signed on the roster (excluding Draymond and DiVincenzo's options, but including their upcoming FRP)
The new CBA doesn't fully kick in until the off season after this one, and the cap is expected to rise again, so there's a narrow pathway for them to be able to extend Dray and Klay (if they combine for $37 million), keep Poole, and avoid the most stringent penalties

All those restrictions are in place largely for the purpose of preventing dynasties from perpetuating themselves. Finally seems to be kicking in with the dubs, who lucked into a great core at low cost and have ridden it as deep into the luxury tax as anyone could have imagined.

BREAKING: Golden State’s Bob Myers – a two-time executive of the year and architect of four NBA championships -- is stepping down as the franchise’s president and general manager, he told ESPN on Tuesday. “It’s just time,” Myers said. pic.twitter.com/r9nkqFOETw

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) May 30, 2023

I guess we're going to find out just how much the veterans lean on him when it comes to Klay's and Dray's extensions.

apparently lacob might put his son in there? i guess the dubs have won enough titles to last a lifetime

i've heard a couple times it will be dunleavy jr. if internal

i think its gonna be dunleavy and kirk lacob yeah

is kirk lacob a failson or ?

prob

I guess we're going to find out just how much the veterans lean on him when it comes to Klay's and Dray's extensions.

― Cashews Everything Around Me (Leee), Tuesday, May 30, 2023 12:56 PM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

dont really follow warriors politics but yeah this does seem pretty ominous for them

Supposedly Lacob, Son of Lacob was the one who brought GPii in, which was probably enough to convince Joe that he'd be better than Bob

i think he was a fine GM gm but he was clearly very good at managing the human side of things, the egos, etc.

IIRC the Hawks also have an owner's son in a key management role. are there other teams as well?

The failsons are cooking up a Poole for Trae trade

I'm a Mets fan and a failson running the team has gotta be one of the most infuriating things to endure as a sports fan.

dray and klay, what do you think spottie, without myers there to balance all the egos who stays who goes over the next 14 mos?

as a non-dubs fan who has enjoyed having such a likable crew as the dynasty of record, it is really hard and sad to imagine breaking up the splash bros. dray on the other hand seems destined to pursue a role elsewhere and prob end up a disappointing albatross contract, though i would be happy for him if he can find a team that has the scorers for him to complement.

from the team side of things, they really need poole to start next year blazing hot, get his contract out from underwater so that its a tradeable asset

think poole is prob movable now but they wouldnt get much for him

its really hard to guess what they will do. if dray and klay take team friendly deals then they're likely riding this out together til the end of currys contract. i think joe will eat the big bill. but if they are demanding max and not budging i think theyll both just play on their current contracts for this season then move on? that might be risky given their ages to not take a longer deal now, tho. my guess is they both take 3 year deals around 25-30 per and that gets them locked in and the team under the 2nd apron. poole... yeah i think hes movable now, i would lean towards keeping him but only if the behinds the scenes relationships are repairable. if the relationships are friend then hes gotta go and sooner than later, cant start the season with bad vibes or its like a lakers westbrook situation from the beginning of this season. i think bob was a buffer between kerr and lacob too, interested to see how that dynamic plays out now, ownership might start demanding more playing time for the kids and kerr could leave, idk. everyone knows they have a shot every year while curry is at this level so hes kind of holding it all together with string right now.

thanks for thoughtful response, that all tracks to me. obv curry on another team is inconceivable but it's gonna be depressing if they can't keep a competitive team around him for the remainder of his god-tier years, however many they will be

i thikn dray wouldve been gone a while ago if not for curry, who understands how important he is to the team warts and all

it's gonna be depressing if they can't keep a competitive team around him for the remainder of his god-tier years, however many they will be

I feel part of that might be Curry's undoing too - if he insists on keeping say Klay around past his due date, he would be shooting his foot in the process. Probably one of the better ways to sustain is trading one or two of the expensive current players (Poole, Klay, Dray and Wiggins) for youth pieces, depth and to get under the apron. Steph is going to continue to be super-maxed until he retires.

If the dubs can somehow keep Klay and Dray on super team friendly deals, part with Poole and get some real depth back, they got maybe 2-3 years left at maybe contending. After that? Retirement tour?

How many of y'all think LeBron arrives in a crazy trade this year or next?

there seems to be a lot of smoke around that lebron rumor. but i dont really see it happening. its really a bummer that klay flamed out in the lakers series cos he had a great season overall and a stellar 2nd half of the seaosn in particular.

I'm very skeptical about the Lebron rumors -- can he even fit onto the team just looking at salary?

would have to move wiggins and poole to match i think. i think if it were to happen it would be after next season

“There’s no doubt in my mind what Steve’s saying right here. He’s saying that Jordan [Poole] and Jonathan [Kuminga] were being babies all year long!”

- @Mark_T_Willard reading between the lines of Steve Kerr’s comments (via @WillardAndDibs). pic.twitter.com/NfODnObzpq

— 95.7 The Game (@957thegame) June 5, 2023

It's Dunleavy. At least we didn't get the failson.

https://theathletic.com/4616113/2023/06/16/warriors-mike-dunleavy-jr-gm-bob-myers/

I guess you could call Dunleavy a failson, actually.

lol have you looked at mike dunleavy sr's track record as a player and a coach?

Dunleavy thing is funny cos the whole (old school) fanbase hates him

xp ya more like the successful son of a faildad. I
i was amazed to see that jr’s playing career was 15 years - I knew he hung around for awhile but damn. i always think of him and troy murphy being the tools of the pacers’ post-malice at the palace whitewashing

Draymond declines option, now a free agent... Lakers time?

hes coming back

I'd be shocked if he leaves. I'm guessing he's declining so that he can agree to a longer term deal at a lower AAV to help with the tax bill while simultaneously reducing his risk of injury/performance hurting his chances next year. I'm thinking 3/$60M to line up with Steph's deal possibly? Maybe they'll push it out to a 4 year deal with a mutual option if they can extend Steph? Either way, I think Dray's value and terms will be aligned with the team.

The real concern I have is Klay - do you trade him or start negotiations on an extension that has to be below max? I really hope Klay's pride doesn't get in the way of the team moving forward. If Dray and Klay have any desire to win another ring with Steph, they have to take paycuts, or leave.

dray will get more than 60. my guess is 3/90 and possible a team option 4th year. but he already said he wants it to line up with the curry contract.

what other team is gonna give $30m/yr to a 33yo who averages 9 ppg, is ranked 143rd in PER, and is kind of an asshole?

I could see a lot of teams wanting him at that price but would prob need to be a sign n trade situation

Maybe the Kuminga rumors were wishful thinking from another team?

One of the exploratory conversations that surfaced, via ESPN, was a trade-up scenario involving Kuminga. From my understanding, that was an inbound call from a team in the lottery that has registered regular interest in Kuminga dating back a year. Multiple team sources have been adamant that the Warriors aren’t shopping Kuminga around.

https://theathletic.com/4618058/2023/06/21/warriors-nba-draft-free-agency-trades/

it just makes sense to keep a guy with that skillset on a rookie deal.

dray will get more than 60. my guess is 3/90 and possible a team option 4th year. but he already said he wants it to line up with the curry contract.

If this happens they offload Poole. There's no way they can flesh out this team to compete properly paying Draymond more than they are now and keeping everyone else. It's literally $ or championships, especially with the new CBA. What is this team without Donte DiVincenzo? That's the best they can do with the new CBA next year while paying a lot more in tax $ with Poole and Dray's new hypothetical deals. That's a lot of money to likely lose in the 2nd round again.

I think if they keep Dray they need to move Poole, not just for the money but for the vibes, too. What they do about Klay is where my interest tends. Steph strikes me as able to adjust to and accept major changes in the roster, but if the dubs choose to start a full rebuild around him I think he'll pull his foot off the accelerator and do some coasting while he scopes out his options.

I will simply not watch the 2nd team minutes this year

Adding insult to injury, they traded PBJ for a 2nd round pick, I assume as further salary dump? He looked really promising last year! Solid defense and great 3 point stroke. Starting to understand why Bob left.

yeah i think it saves them a bunch of money and they think this trayce jackson davis can do more things to help immediately. basically every move now is to 1) maximize currys timeline and 2) save as much money on the fringes doing so

basically admitting that they messed up thinking they could do a two timelines thing and wasted a couple years of currys prime trying to thread the needle.

well maybe one year - 2021. 2020 Curry was injured and 2023 they mostly ran back with the same group minus swapping DiVincenzo for OPJ. If Klay, Poole, Wiggins and the young guys not named Moses don't regress in the playoffs the way they did, they go much farther potentially. They still got a ring out of it, but yeah - the front office has absolutely been humbled.

FWIW I actually like this deal. CP3, if they choose to keep him mostly on the bench, can anchor a 2nd unit really well and keep his minutes to around 20 a game. He can help slow the pace down, prevent teams from catching up nearly as quickly, and preserve his body. I would like to hope the locker room vibe improvements alone will make this trade a plus. Poole can tank command over in Washington without worrying about play time and put up 25/5 type stats (just ignore the TOV column) without worrying about committing himself to things like defense and improved ball handling/decision making. Got his bag and his ring, nicely done Jordan.