ITS THE OFFS BABY THE 2023 NBA PLAYOFFS

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Felt a little like they were one pass short on offense, but they still had plenty of open looks. I didn't feel like they got run off the 3pt line or anything, they just missed shots.

They were the best 3pt shooting team in the league this season and they had a bad game. It's going to be something on Sunday. I'm driving back from my parents in the early afternoon so I hope the game is later in the day.

This machine bores fascism (PBKR), Friday, 12 May 2023 11:47 (three years ago)

Wild stat: Per @nbastats, the Suns shot 9-of-49 (18%) on corner 3s during the Denver series.

— Kevin Pelton (@kpelton) May 12, 2023



when you’re throwing some of the worst playoff role players imaginable out there

J0rdan S., Friday, 12 May 2023 20:32 (three years ago)

i still cant believe people believed in that team

Spottie, Friday, 12 May 2023 20:34 (three years ago)

once KD got injured it was all about building for next season.

Spottie, Friday, 12 May 2023 20:34 (three years ago)

here's a fun stat I bet the over at 226 points and went to bed at half when it was 81-51 only to wake up and find it somehow landed at exactly 225

frogbs, Friday, 12 May 2023 20:34 (three years ago)

ouch

Spottie, Friday, 12 May 2023 20:35 (three years ago)

i still cant believe people believed in that team

― Spottie, Friday, May 12, 2023 4:34 PM (two minutes ago)

it's really crazy ppl just thought the suns could throw out all rules of playoff basketball including one of the main ones "you have to have more than 2 good players on your roster"

J0rdan S., Friday, 12 May 2023 20:37 (three years ago)

i still cant believe people believed in that team

― Spottie, Friday, May 12, 2023 3:34 PM (fifty-five seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

did anyone here think they were going far, once the afterglow of the trade wore off? seems like something Vegas and ESPN pundits would overreact to but not the true hoops dorks here. I do recall a lot of "hmmm maybe if KD stays healthy" but that depends on CP3 also being healthy and Ayton being a different person with the same body

frogbs, Friday, 12 May 2023 20:41 (three years ago)

ilh was fine about it but the media shows way too much reverence for kd.

Spottie, Friday, 12 May 2023 20:43 (three years ago)

there was smart basketball ppl in the media who thought this made them the west favorites by default, it wasn't just the first take types. i think to some degree it's front office brain trickling down thru media members who have lots of like assistant GM sources or w/e. the idea that you have to ruthlessly find stars at any cost and just see where the chips fall feels a tad more justifiable to me if you're actually involved in team building, whereas as an analyst it would be fair (and correct) to say "but actually that team only has 2 good players on it"

J0rdan S., Friday, 12 May 2023 20:56 (three years ago)

the Heatles ruined everyone's brain. that roster was really smartly constructed and did a great job of finding cheap guys beyond the Big 3 who could hurt you. you also had peak LeBron. kinda hard to replicate that.

frogbs, Friday, 12 May 2023 21:00 (three years ago)

theres been a lot of success over the last ~25 year with acquiring big names shaq with the lakers and heat celtics big 3 heat big three lakers with gasol warriors with kd raps with kawhi lakers with bron, that prob represents the majority of the championships, there have been some big superteam whiffs recently tho, dynamic mightve changed or maybe teams just talking them into not that good configurations idk

lag∞n, Friday, 12 May 2023 21:14 (three years ago)

its really hard to fill in around the edges now i think. which is what makes the lakers miracle trade deadline even more impressive

Spottie, Friday, 12 May 2023 21:16 (three years ago)

well the thing w/ the heatles is that they didn't have to trade any players to get those guys. and in response the owners remade the CBA so that high level free agency was basically killed. now in order to get an all star player you have to in turn neuter your ability to add around those players. you can draw a direct line from point A to point B on this one. minnesota, atlanta, cleveland are learning the hard way now. the clippers to a certain extent tho ballmer's money has helped them a lot, and now that's being taken out of play.

J0rdan S., Friday, 12 May 2023 21:17 (three years ago)

those teams feel a lot deeper than what the Nets, Suns, and Mavs have now

frogbs, Friday, 12 May 2023 21:18 (three years ago)

nets mightve had a decent shot at a ring if it werent for their beautiful minds and fragile bodies

lag∞n, Friday, 12 May 2023 21:18 (three years ago)

the knicks not trading for mitchell & instead just signing brunson for only the cost of his contract turned out to be a genius move. really one of the smartest fork in the road decisions a team has made in the last few seasons. even if mitchell is slightly better than brunson which may not even be true, there's no way he's three first round picks, two swaps, markannen, sexton and agbaji better. it's not even close.

if you look at the teams that are left, the lakers are the only one that made one of these "all our assets for one player trade." but even that was contingent on getting lebron thru a more traditional version of free agency. philly got harden but it ended up being a different level of deal in terms of assets sent out and under very specific circumstances bcuz of the simmons & kyrie situations on either end of that trade.

the heat's entire run w/ butler is predicated on them acquiring him in a complete heist sign and trade that would never happen right now. warriors, boston, nuggets are all homegrown & i'd throw philly in that group too w/ their roster aside from harden

J0rdan S., Friday, 12 May 2023 21:25 (three years ago)

ya that seems to be the thing, teams are only really looking at the best case scenario right now, instead of the unfortunate reality that players with a pattern of missing time generally do not break that pattern as they get older. I guess as an exec you'd rather say "well we got KD and it just didn't work out" rather than being known as someone who passed on the chance to get KD

frogbs, Friday, 12 May 2023 21:25 (three years ago)

and even in the lakers case they did a second "all of our assets for a star" trade and it prob ranks as one of the single worst front office decisions of the last decade

J0rdan S., Friday, 12 May 2023 21:28 (three years ago)

the biggest free agent signings of the last few seasons are like... brunson, derozan. kyle lowry lol. lonzo ball, bogdan bogdanovic. at best you can get like a third team NBA/borderline all star type guy or a really good role player in FA now

J0rdan S., Friday, 12 May 2023 21:30 (three years ago)

free agent market has been killed by the trade demand

lag∞n, Friday, 12 May 2023 21:32 (three years ago)

if you're gonna trade everything for someone it basically has to be Lebron. idk maybe that sort of trade for Giannis might make sense in a couple years if Milwaukee really flames out.

frogbs, Friday, 12 May 2023 21:33 (three years ago)

when you’re throwing some of the worst playoff role players imaginable out there
― J0rdan S., Friday, May 12, 2023 4:32 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

i still cant believe people believed in that team

― Spottie, Friday, May 12, 2023 4:34 PM (one hour ago)

this goes down in history as offically a 6 game series, but it was really a 4 game series with a 2-game interlude where booker had two of the best playoff games ever and thanks to some role player shooting the suns managed to eke out close wins. nuggets +57 in the series and jokic was a + in both losses. a waxing

k3vin k., Friday, 12 May 2023 21:55 (three years ago)

i think it was really a five game series with one game stretched over two games

lag∞n, Friday, 12 May 2023 21:59 (three years ago)

xp as you pretty much alluded to, pinning your hopes on a thin team is a dicey bet, the threat of injuries etc has to be baked in there. that said the suns were still really good and I'm not sure the trade was the wrong move. they should be able to retool next year

k3vin k., Friday, 12 May 2023 22:00 (three years ago)

they will be better next year for sure

Spottie, Friday, 12 May 2023 22:07 (three years ago)

booker could be a legit mvp level guy next year

Clay, Friday, 12 May 2023 22:13 (three years ago)

i’m willing to say it was the wrong move. i don’t see how you come up with like 8 new players including 3 new starters in one offseason. if they don’t win it next season do we really think it’s changing in durant’s age 36 season? he’s not the same guy & this isn’t revisionist i said before this series that nobody in the national media was talking about the possibility that KD was the guy we saw vs boston not vs milwaukee.

i’ll take the under on whatever phoenix thinks ayton’s trade value is and ishbia’s money isn’t even gonna matter all that much w the new CBA

J0rdan S., Friday, 12 May 2023 22:22 (three years ago)

free agent market has been killed by the trade demand


free agency was killed very pointedly by the owners when they made it so retaining teams could pay thru the nose for their own players *and* do it two years before a player’s contract was up. they effectively erased any incentive for star players to hit FA and made it so the only sensible route was to take the crazy money up front and force your way out after

of course the funny part is that it’s mostly just left teams in wreckage. the wizards with wall and now beal, houston with westbrook, portland on the horizon with lillard, minnesota with the KAT + mega gobert trade combo, the nets with KD and very likely the suns with KD, the bulls between the vuc trade & lavine contract, atlanta is staring this down on a few fronts

J0rdan S., Friday, 12 May 2023 22:45 (three years ago)

yeah perception's gotta shift with guys like beal or lavine there's more players than ever who can score 25 ppg

ciderpress, Friday, 12 May 2023 23:14 (three years ago)

zeller’s hairline is so tragic

k3vin k., Saturday, 13 May 2023 01:22 (three years ago)

zeller ‘s a sexy beast, hush your mouth, lol

sknybrg, Saturday, 13 May 2023 01:28 (three years ago)

last zeller standing

lag∞n, Saturday, 13 May 2023 01:33 (three years ago)

Ah there’s playoff Scott Foster

Spottie, Saturday, 13 May 2023 01:37 (three years ago)

The ol double lane violation call important stuff

Spottie, Saturday, 13 May 2023 01:37 (three years ago)

This game is good, lotta toughness

Spottie, Saturday, 13 May 2023 01:43 (three years ago)

Brunson 12-18
Rest of starters 5-30

Spottie, Saturday, 13 May 2023 01:51 (three years ago)

live by the brunson, die by the brunson

ciderpress, Saturday, 13 May 2023 02:14 (three years ago)

Gotta say, it may just still be me stinging from the Bucks loss, but I am finding Jimmy Butler to be an extremely hateable player to watch, somehow in the place in his eyes where other guys have intensity and drive, he has a mean smugness

Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 13 May 2023 02:23 (three years ago)

Lebron going after Wiggins ribs on every possession

Spottie, Saturday, 13 May 2023 02:24 (three years ago)

jimmy is definitely mean he was screaming in jrue holidays face that he owns him while the game was still going on

J0rdan S., Saturday, 13 May 2023 02:26 (three years ago)

bam is not a perfect player by any stretch of the imagination but in rock fight game 6/7s you almost always feel his presence. just very few guys his size who can run and jump like that and play extremely hard always & have skill. when it’s a game with a lot of tipped passes, gang rebounds, loose balls, scrambles etc he shows up

J0rdan S., Saturday, 13 May 2023 02:30 (three years ago)

Brutal start here yikes

Spottie, Saturday, 13 May 2023 02:35 (three years ago)

Uhh klay???

Spottie, Saturday, 13 May 2023 02:54 (three years ago)

who taught poole how to play defense we need to name and shame even if it was his mom

k3vin k., Saturday, 13 May 2023 03:17 (three years ago)

It’s legit the worst in the league

Spottie, Saturday, 13 May 2023 03:19 (three years ago)

he makes up for it on offense though why I'll just take a look now at how many points he has

frogbs, Saturday, 13 May 2023 03:20 (three years ago)

ahahahhahahaha Reaves you gotta be kidding me

frogbs, Saturday, 13 May 2023 03:24 (three years ago)

Dammit

Spottie, Saturday, 13 May 2023 03:25 (three years ago)

RIP Warriors... everything's coming up Lakers lol

octobeard, Saturday, 13 May 2023 03:25 (three years ago)


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