jrue holiday is prob the one trade you'd throw in there as a success but it's also tied to the miracle of having giannis
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 2 May 2023 17:08 (three years ago)
especially in 2023. you can win with one top tier dude and a great rotation. not sure you can win with two top tier dudes and a handful of borderline nba replacement players
― Spottie, Tuesday, May 2, 2023 12:33 PM (thirty-five minutes ago)
i can't find it right now but i'm reminded of the hollinger article from i believe last year about how the playoffs are morphing into a game where the quality of your worst player on the floor is almost as important as the quality of your best player. every team is out there hunting weak links on both sides of the floor... and when your team is 10 weak links and 2 great players?? teams are too good now at figuring out how to counterbalance that by repeatedly pressing on your pain points
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 2 May 2023 17:09 (three years ago)
yup. i think bill mentioned it recently but maybe the suns didnt need to include cam johnson in that trade? even just hanging on to him could have had dramatic impact on this roster.
― Spottie, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 17:23 (three years ago)
yeah i thought that was a good point. the nets clearly had the suns new owner over a barrel
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 2 May 2023 17:25 (three years ago)
jrue also a case of breaking the bank for a 3rd strong player not a 2nd
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 18:19 (three years ago)
the one success is AD to the Lakers but even if you don't want to put an asterisk on that chip, the particular alignment of circumstances played a big role. star player who can't stay healthy gets an abbreviated season with no travel
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 18:23 (three years ago)
and then obv it all fell apart quick (redemption arc tbd)
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 18:24 (three years ago)
that lakers chip was an absolute fluke that would not have happened with out the sweet shooting epcot center gym
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 18:26 (three years ago)
you can still get two stars you just cant gut it completely, and you have to develop the rest and be successful on fringe moves. the lakers were a good example of this but then turned it around completely at the trade deadline by bringing in like 4 playable rotation guys plus a new found confidence from reaves. and AD and Bron hgh cycles kicked in and they started playing like top 20 players again.
― Spottie, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 18:29 (three years ago)
― lag∞n, Tuesday, May 2, 2023 2:26 PM (twenty-four minutes ago)
this is one of my favorite topics so excuse me but the bubble also makes ppl forget how much of an anomaly that year was just in terms of the basketball
-- the defending champs were the raptors, kawhi leaves, they're basically over as contenders before the season starts-- the warriors are w/o KD and klay, steph breaks his hand, they immediately pivot to being one of the worst teams in the league -- KD is just out of the league this season. one year later he nearly drags the broken down nets to the title. kyrie also skips the bubble-- the bucks are one month away from making the jrue trade. stuck w/ eric bledsoe they get smoked in the playoffs-- the suns are one month away from making the chris paul trade. they make it into the bubble but not the playoffs -- the rockets, the other defining team of the dubs-cavs era, make the panic westbrook trade which tanks their team-- the celtics are still in the kemba/heyward era w/ two young stars that are still a few years away
and oh let's not forget that they miraculously avoid the clippers in the west finals & both dragic and bam get hurt in game 1 of the finals. the heat go down 2-0 w/ crowder, herro, robinson, olynyk, igoudala, nunn & meyers leonard being the only other guys getting minutes in game 2 around butler. the heat take 2 of the next 3 while getting bam back, but the first two games ultimately sink them.
i do think the lakers were prob the best team that year. they were the 1 seed in the west & had the best defense in the league. but even putting the bubble aside that was a weird ahistorical one of a kind type year that dropped a title in their laps like it was the end of a rube goldberg machine
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 2 May 2023 19:10 (three years ago)
such a weird season. didnt jimmy role his ankle in the finals too?
― Spottie, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 19:18 (three years ago)
all the team playing in the same arena iirc
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 2 May 2023 19:19 (three years ago)
all true but I don't like when people say it as a ding against LeBron's legacy, like "no he has 3 titles and the BUBBLE CHAMPIONSHIP". if any player deserved a "cheap" one it's LeBron James...no disrespect to Jordan but things may look a lot different if he had to keep going through a buzzsaw like the KD Warriors
― frogbs, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 19:20 (three years ago)
its ok to give bron a hard time he can take it
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 19:22 (three years ago)
they won the final game of the playoff format that was provided and the banner looks the same as the other ones hanging in the rafters. if the celtics won you'll would be talking about how grueling the bubble was or some shit.
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 2 May 2023 19:22 (three years ago)
i do think all the stuff i mentioned mattered a lot more than the bubble... the bubble absolutely pushed davis to offensive heights via long range shooting that were a disney mirage but look at what the heat were doing
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 2 May 2023 19:24 (three years ago)
no sorry that one was a fluke and in fact im striking it from the record books xp
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 19:24 (three years ago)
the bubble was weird af but counts imo
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 20:42 (three years ago)
too late
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 20:55 (three years ago)
Heat say Jimmy Butler is OUT for Game 2.— Andrew Lopez (@_Andrew_Lopez) May 2, 2023
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 2 May 2023 22:04 (three years ago)
o jeez
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 22:09 (three years ago)
the thing where every seed from 1-8 is represented in the 8 remaining teams is freaking me out
― Clay, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 22:22 (three years ago)
yeah the highest seed playing tonight is the #5 new york knicks baby
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 22:26 (three years ago)
heat happy to steal game 1
― Spottie, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 22:28 (three years ago)
the brackets shaking out such that the high seed teams cant even knock out the low seed ones in this round is doubly weird. could legit have a 7 and an 8 seed in the conference finals
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 22:30 (three years ago)
― Spottie, Tuesday, May 2, 2023 6:28 PM (one minute ago)
also more than most teams they have a specific strategy for when their best player sits that has led to success in the past
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 2 May 2023 22:32 (three years ago)
and game 3 isn't until saturday so jimmy basically gets a week off
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 2 May 2023 22:33 (three years ago)
i cant imagine joel tries to play tomorrow either. got game 1 now head home and rest
― Spottie, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 22:42 (three years ago)
if the heat win this game im sorry we need to call off the series and cancel the knicks.
― Spottie, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 22:44 (three years ago)
knicks are fine cmon 5 seed shouldnt be expected to be a huge favorite even vs the 8 seed
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 22:58 (three years ago)
gsw/lal is probably going to break some viewership records
― micah, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 23:06 (three years ago)
all the hollywood stars will be there *wild applause* and the bay area billionaires too *prolonged booing*
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 23:21 (three years ago)
we call them baybi's for short
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 23:26 (three years ago)
finally the showdown america has been waiting for, the movies we all love vs the apps we all crave, who will come out on top
― Clay, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 23:29 (three years ago)
being hot and good at pretending is better than owning a company
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 2 May 2023 23:29 (three years ago)
i don't use apps or watch movies. which playoff team represents video games
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 23:34 (three years ago)
the suns
― Clay, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 23:35 (three years ago)
gotta be the suns due to ayton being an elite 2k player
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 23:35 (three years ago)
ok, video games besides nba2k
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 23:36 (three years ago)
lol
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 23:38 (three years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TeGcUW5cAI
― Spottie, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 23:43 (three years ago)
skip to 6:42
― Spottie, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 23:44 (three years ago)
oh right i did see that before
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 23:45 (three years ago)
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 23:46 (three years ago)
― micah, Tuesday, May 2, 2023 4:06 PM (forty-four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
the discourse is already painful, steph and lebron stans just endlessly fighting over the same talking points that have been going on since 2015.
― Spottie, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 23:53 (three years ago)
miami defense playing really connected good stuff
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 3 May 2023 00:22 (three years ago)
they had some really nice possession. will be interesting to see what they do w/ bam at the end of the game bcuz they kinda need him on two guys. he was enveloping brunson
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 3 May 2023 00:41 (three years ago)
it’s clear the knicks have way more individual talent on the floor but the heat didn’t look uncomfortable at all in that half & should prob be up more
if the knicks lose this game i will simply have no choice but to laugh
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 3 May 2023 00:48 (three years ago)
i may never stop laughing
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 3 May 2023 01:02 (three years ago)