2022/23 NBA REGULAR SEASON THREAD "TANKING FOR WEMBANYAMA"

feel like one post season thread makes sense

i'm not really for the whole moving Trae thing, but i think it speaks to how much the hawks value the young guys on the roster. i could definitely see a version of this team without trae being very good under Quinn

― Heez, Tuesday, April 11, 2023 12:07 PM (twenty-eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

gotta be a lot of at play here seems so premature compared to the typical timeline of getting rid of a star, maybe they feel like trae is going to ask out, they have an owner who didnt draft him, serious questions about his viability as a star, his values prob not going to be higher than now, coach killer/bad teammate, style of play issues etc

He’s only played for Lloyd Pearce and Nate. This has demonstrably been his most disappointing season. I’m need to see him under Quinn for a minute

iirc last year we made the thread after the 'ins but either way is fine

seems like theyre going to trade him idk just announcing that youre accepting offers not sure how you go back from that

idk it feels like the definition of selling low to me. i think this all blows over unless they're just done w/ him on a human level. cuz whatever offers they think would be out there for trae in theory are not actually going to materialize in reality, imo

they could also beat the heat and take 2 games off the celtics in a faux competitive series and the tenor around them would change a bit

they could also very easily lose twice and the tenor around them would change in the other direction

i think theres prob a pretty good market for him now like a 3 firsts or equivalent type deal and yeah maybe thats low but what if he keeps going on the current trajectory it could be really bad then, anyway putting it out there that theyre listening to offers really looks like theyre determined to move him otherwise theyd try to do more quietly, they could just be incompetent too tho lol, or someones trying to will it to happen even if the whole org isnt on board idk

I can’t wait to go to https://t.co/dLkj0UOsk0 Arena/STAPLES Center to watch the Lakers win tonight and advance to play Memphis!

— Earvin Magic Johnson (@MagicJohnson) April 11, 2023

magics lock of the night get your money in now before the line moves

if there's a team out there willing to trade 3 firsts for trae i'd be shocked

the hawks just traded 3 first for dejounte murray last year

3 firsts doesn't make sense to me either. if that team exists it seems like it would stand out a mile as the obvious partner in that deal.

the hawks just traded 3 first for dejounte murray last year

― lag∞n, Tuesday, April 11, 2023 1:54 PM (eight minutes ago)

he was also on an insanely cheap contract & coming off the best year of his career

to be clear my argument is not that trae isn't worth three firsts if you strip away context and measure him up against guys like mitchell, murray, gobert etc. but like i said yesterday if you start going thru the teams to find candidates to trade a huge haul of assets to turn the keys of their franchise over to trae... i just don't see many options, personally. but maybe there's secret huge trae fans out there amongst the GM community

obvs finding a match for big trades is always a chore but i feel like getting 3 first for trae is pretty normal

i agree that this would be selling low on trae, however i swear i won't cry if they do. my kid on the other hand...

small point guard is just a tough fit bcuz you really only need one of those guys on the floor. if you already have one (most teams) idk if you're trading all your assets for another one. at least w/ dame you know ppl actually like the guy

I went ahead an made a play-ins thread: Worst gift in the pile: 2023 NBA Play-Ins

Someone else can make the Grand Unified Playoffs thread.

many teams dont have that guy tho and they do want him

tho it does rule out the funniest possible landing spot for trae the new york knicks

the new york nets tho...

lol, the Knicks were my first thought - they could play the "Fuck Trae Young" video on the jumbotron to welcome him

https://i.imgur.com/qBTXZpe.png

also just feel like teams are gonna have to take stock of these recent assets for stars deals & notice that the acquiring teams have almost uniformly ended up w/ the short end of the stick. the market is gonna have to correct itself at some point. i doubt the hawks would be the ones willing to bite the bullet and do the trade that shifts the market back, but i do have to imagine the recent history of those deals would make teams hesitant to do one for a player like trae

the more i think about trae for brad beal the more i feel like that's the move if the hawks are serious about this

bad teams will always want to trade millions of draft picks for star players its just who they are, some owner will always want james harden, the only reason it wasnt happening more in the past is because stars werent available as much

brad beal and 3 firsts maybe, but i wouldnt even do that if i were the hawks. trae isnt even in his prime yet and he was just an all nba player one season ago. beal is 30 and not nearly as good as trae imo. the only way they get rid of him is if he's asked for it or the whole org secretly hates him.

seems like theres a good chance the org does hate him

id get what i could for trae now personally im not a believer

there was an interview with huerter a while ago where he was hinting at something like that

backing up the truck for quin snyder and then not even seeing what he could do with trae would be an interesting series of decisions

unless snyder has already decided he doesnt like trae

personally i would want my highly-compensated coach to at least give it a season with my difficult superstar before making that call but i'm not the son of an nba owner

attempting to read the tea leaves here

Reporting on Trae Young's future in Atlanta and conversations that could take place in offseason: pic.twitter.com/m91nXA3vPD

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) April 11, 2023

Yeah the only way I see this happening is if Quinn already decided they’d be better off without him

"his day-to-day habits on and off the court"

he's openly clashed w/ two straight coaches & is a ball hog who takes crazy shots while never playing defense. don't think it takes a ton of decoding to come to the conclusion that ppl there prob don't like him

brad beal and 3 firsts maybe

if i'm trading brad beal and 3 first for trae young tony ressler better be wiring me like $50 million to an untraceable offshore account on the side

he's also led the league in assist the last two years and has barely been injured

jordan very low on trae!

i also do not like trae but it doesnt matter what we think

brad beal is a negative contract tho

i’m taking my opinion of trae out of it & just looking at the situation rationally

heh

no but really if anyone can point out the team that’s gonna trade 3 first round picks for trae young i’m all ears

also analytics would tell you that trae young is a positive value contract but i’m not sure the results out in the real world exactly back that up

nets wizards lakers rockets all seem like reasonable trae targets those were just the first four i thought of

pelicans

the nets are a good one i should've had them in there. that would be a pretty ideal situation for him & if the hawks could pry DFS or cam johnson loose it could be a good one for them too

the rockets maybe out of pure desperation i could see it but trae young-josh green is a backcourt pairing directly from the mind of satan