2022/23 NBA REGULAR SEASON THREAD "TANKING FOR WEMBANYAMA"

I would argue that there’s no way he’s like Aaron Hernandez, but the grizzlies can’t take the same chance making that argument considering the way he’s been trending.

yeah hernandez was a rare psycho its unlikely ja is that

Grizz are obv trying to save their season, protect their investment, and do it via doing what seems to be the minimum amount to make sure Ja is not going to put himself in bad and dangerous situations in the future. It just seems like a lot of empty gesturing towards the issue. Def like the Miller thing though tbh I think the Miller thing is worse in terms of how the team handled it and it’s still less clear what actually happened. W Ja at least we kind of understand it.

Anyway they really better help him out and maybe he needs better friends

gl lonzo

ESPN Sources: Bulls G Lonzo Ball will undergo a third surgical procedure on his left
knee in past 14 months. He hasn’t played since January of 2022 and had already been ruled out this season.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) March 16, 2023

xp irl i do a lot of work around how adversity and trauma in childhood influence brain development and make it hard to the point of impossible for people to just turn on their polite society personas when they are thrust into a different milieu, when everything inside of them is giving them messages and instincts like i need to defend my people/show out with strength and power/intimate fear in anyone i perceive as threatening me. being steeped in this stuff all the time i try to see a lot of athlete misbehavior through that lens and have compassion and patience as a result. that said,

1) i know next to nothing about how ja was actually brought up - on the one hand he seems to have had a more stable family environment than a lot of ballers, on the other those family members seem to have been modeling and joining in with this behavior on numerous occasions

2) it should be a major high priority for the nba and its teams to provide the guidance that helps players who come from those backgrounds to learn how to manage in the world of money and entourages and etc etc. i mean going into this season ja was arguably THE most charismatic up and coming star in the league, winning smile, nightly sportscenter dunks, exciting young team (well at least that was a big plus before their heel turn, lol). it's definitely a failure of lots of parties involved from the league to the team. of all people trying to come up from the streets, star athletes have the most rare of resources and opportunities to extricate themselves from that life. i do have a hard time imagining that a lot of that hasn't been going on, though, so hard to know how much ja has just been blowing it off, vs. the people who should be looking out for him being afraid to rock the boat or have hard conversations

i couldnt make it through the full 20 minute ja interview. mostly cos its BS as stated above but also i cant look at Jalens hair/facial hair any more for extended periods of time.

There are concerns about Ball’s ability to resume his career and hopes that this surgery — which could cost Ball another full season away — will give him a pathway to play again, sources said. ESPN reported last week that Ball was weighing procedure. https://t.co/vjTLR8MBHq

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) March 16, 2023

what a mess.

jordan I feel like we are largely on the same page here but I just want to be clear that while yes I am more anti-gun than most people, the most concerning thing to me is not that he owns a gun or whatever, but that there is now a documented (and even then, only the ones that have been documented!) pattern of poor judgment *out in the community* where he and his family and friends are flexing their muscle like they're the local mob, on more than one occasion involving a gun. it's not like he's finding himself in the wrong places at the wrong time -- hes actively escalating situations in ways that are seriously, seriously concerning, the sort of situations that can easily continue to escalate into awful violence. and while I'm hopeful he can outgrow it, there wasn't anything in that interview that really demonstrated he had thought too deeply about his behavior, he spent most of his answers justifying it!

feel super bad for lonzo speaking of fucked up family situations, he seems like a chill dude

if he misses another full season he'll be playing a final year w/ chicago on his player option

oh man I didn't realize there was a 20 minute version of the interview, not really sure I can subject myself to that

k3v i don't think ja is faultless by any stretch. and the apology interview was really disappointing. i'm just bristling against the "well we know ja is a bad guy" posts bcuz i think it's way too early to say that

i cant look at Jalens hair/facial hair any more for extended periods of time.

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jalens mid life crisis fashion situation doesnt get the attention it deserves hes out of control and really believes hes a style authority saw some thing the other day where he was saying men should spend $100 minimum on a haircut like people should be listening to him and while ago i watched a clip from jalen an jacoby where jacoby was lightly ribbing him for the ridiculous pink suit hed worn the night before and jalen went into this whole soliloquy about how he was a trend setter moving the culture forward and in fact, and this is the crazy part, jacoby was wearing a sweater that had a little bit of pink on it and jalen claimed that the pink suit had influenced him to wear the sweater

lmao!

he believes that because he was part of the fab five that it awards him lifelong fashion icon status.

ha hadnt thought of that angle but yeah thats gotta be part of it

tbf he DID start the trend of naming children jalen (or i guess his parents did)

thats true.

speaking of, seems like c webb just poof disappeared after his contract was up. havent seen him even filling in spots here or there, not on for march madness any more either.

like if i was the only jalen more or less on earth and now theres like 17 jalens in the nba like a busted 2k create a player algorithm, id probably start wearing weird shit and trying to make fetch happen too

xp

his mom combined her two brothers names, theres double digit jalens in the nba now, crazy

its a good name tbf it sounds legit like its always been there

the stuff w/ jalen's hairline/haircuts is pretty funny to me i will admit

the main fashion thing i associate w/ him was that period when all the players were wearing flower lapels? but jaylen would wear a different brooch on the *other* lapel as well... he really embodies the idea of taking one thing off before you leave the house

i can't tell if his hair is real or not

it's a well-known quin snyder quirk, he really likes to have a bo*an bogdanovic on any team he coaches

― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Thursday, March 16, 2023 3:12 PM

I actually think the Detroit bogdanovic would fit really well in the Collins spot. I have no comment on the extension

Sorry, the Hawks are the No Bogdanovics Club (they can have one)

fuckin dolan man

Owner of Madison Square Garden Had State Liquor Investigator Tailed, with @coreykilgannon https://t.co/lEXA3MiV0l

— Dana Rubinstein (@danarubinstein) March 16, 2023

a true a hole

Dillon brooks is dirty.
You didn’t need to push the guy. You already caught your fall on the table. pic.twitter.com/QAlYv1bLId

— TheyCallHerT (@Ms_Persia) March 16, 2023

ja is redeemable but not brooks

damn son

hes had enough

ESPN Sources: Charlotte Hornets owner Michael Jordan is engaged in serious talks to sell a majority stake in the franchise to a group led by Hornets minority owner Gabe Plotkin and Atlanta Hawks minority owner Rick Schnall. pic.twitter.com/jg03W25s49

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) March 16, 2023

Can someone own parts of two different teams?

i dont think so. i would guess rick would have to sell his hawks stake

dillon brooks trying to ruin canada's reputation

re: ja, i agree very much with kev's last post about the concerning pattern of behavior toward civilians in his community, and even if he has learned not much from this i hope that his actions stay under a microscope long enough for him to cool off/grow up as a result of it. he probably needs to change the people he is close to in his life though, which will be tough since he's related to some of them.

ILH should try to pool together some cash to see if we can get into the Charlotte sweepstakes.

i have ~$13 left on a visa gift card

Enter code HOOPS30 for 30% off an NBA franchise

sorry we only suspend players after they get 51'd

if we build a simple wrapper for an app that lets chatgpt spit out trade ideas we might be able to raise like 2-3 billion in capital and buy the team

okay now I am very curious if ChatGPT can compare NBA players and figure out trades

me: can you put together a working nba trade for the charlotte hornets to receive Shai Gilgeous-Alexander

chatgpt:
As an AI language model, I don't have access to the most current news and updates in the NBA, but I can still try to come up with a hypothetical trade scenario for the Charlotte Hornets to acquire Shai Gilgeous-Alexander. Here's one possible trade:

Charlotte Hornets receive:

Shai Gilgeous-Alexander
Oklahoma City Thunder receive:

Terry Rozier
Cody Martin
2023 first-round pick (top-10 protected)
In this trade, the Hornets would be giving up Terry Rozier, who has been a solid contributor for them, but acquiring Shai Gilgeous-Alexander would give them a younger and more versatile guard with a higher upside. Cody Martin is a young prospect who hasn't seen much playing time, and the first-round pick is top-10 protected, so the Thunder would only receive it if the Hornets have a successful season.

On the other hand, the Thunder would be adding a proven scorer in Terry Rozier, who could help mentor their younger players, and a young prospect in Cody Martin. In addition, they would receive a protected first-round pick, which could potentially turn into a valuable asset in the future.

Of course, this is just a hypothetical trade scenario, and there are many other factors that could influence whether such a trade would actually take place.

so like does the salary and everything work on that

it does but shai can't be traded until this summer bc of his extension

the next one i tried (og anunoby to the hornets) chatgpt wanted the hornets to trade gordon hayward, malik monk, and an unprotected 2022 first. there's a couple problems here

hot tub trade machine

lol

maybe I shouldn’t be but I am actually surprised it does that poorly at it. I wonder if the dynamic, changing-from-year-to-year nature of sports rosters confuses it because there’s obviously tons of outdated info in its data sources?

Don’t let Bill Simmons catch wind of “hot tub trade machine,” he’ll do 8 hours on cross-era trades with quotes from the movie to illustrate each

"Help! I'm stuck in the Hot Tub Trade Machine!" - that's right, Anunoby, we can't believe it either

any update on wiggins?