2022/23 NBA REGULAR SEASON THREAD "TANKING FOR WEMBANYAMA"

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Kyrie Irving is asked if he has any anti-Semitic beliefs: pic.twitter.com/hHI8FFqMbs

— Nets Videos (@SNYNets) November 3, 2022



he’s just being defensive now instead of saying “no” and taking his L and getting on with his life. so much of the trouble he causes for himself comes down to an inability to just admit that he screwed up and then taking accountability for it. now it has to be this circular never ending conversation about the nature of the questions and the game between the media and the public figure and what words mean. it’s not “i’m not anti semitic” it’s “i can’t be anti semitic if you know where i come from.” he’s shifting the responsibility away, as if we’re supposed to do our research on him. but i guess doing your own “research” is the whole thing with these people so maybe it tracks in his mind

J0rdan S., Thursday, 3 November 2022 16:45 (three years ago)

also there’s def anti semites in new jersey let’s be real. i don’t think that one is exonerating you kyrie

J0rdan S., Thursday, 3 November 2022 16:46 (three years ago)

some of the responses on those Friedell tweets :/

omar little, Thursday, 3 November 2022 16:47 (three years ago)

abdicating responsibility, the whole "hey do your own research" angle, he's just asking questions, posting links, all this shit requires to gain traction is the idea that "huh isn't it interesting how things are with regards to this group of people..."

omar little, Thursday, 3 November 2022 16:49 (three years ago)

"i cannot be antisemitic if i know where i come from" - i think, in his own antagonistic and defensive way, he's referring to what i understand the thesis of the film to be, that black people are the real semites. which, when you're supposed to be disavowing and distancing yourself from it, probably not the most effective move to draw on its premise

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Thursday, 3 November 2022 17:03 (three years ago)

what a jackass

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Thursday, 3 November 2022 17:03 (three years ago)

“i can’t be anti semitic if you know where i come from” - this is still on the whole "black people are the original jews" thing isn't it???!! unbelievable

lol xpost exactly. he actually is doubling down

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 3 November 2022 17:06 (three years ago)

there are many people out there who have chosen the conspiracy life over their families their livelihoods and general well being but i think this is the first all star were losing

lag∞n, Thursday, 3 November 2022 17:30 (three years ago)

wild that the kyrie and kanye situations are happening simultaneously, its not great

lag∞n, Thursday, 3 November 2022 17:35 (three years ago)

maybe we could quarantine kyrie's poisonous ideas and actions elsewhere than a thread meant to let us indulge in our joy in the game. kinda like the Trump and Musk threads, but for kyrie's powerful bad vibes

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 3 November 2022 17:36 (three years ago)

im for it

lag∞n, Thursday, 3 November 2022 17:37 (three years ago)

wild that the kyrie and kanye situations are happening simultaneously, its not great


i’m not sure they’re entirely disconnected

J0rdan S., Thursday, 3 November 2022 17:44 (three years ago)

it may not work, but it seemed worth a try:

Kyrie: itt we discuss his latest horrible thing

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 3 November 2022 17:52 (three years ago)

i replied to you in the kyrie thread jordan

lag∞n, Thursday, 3 November 2022 17:54 (three years ago)

ESPN Sources: Philadelphia 76ers star James Harden has suffered right foot tendon strain and is expected to miss a month. pic.twitter.com/LHEIucfbFj

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) November 3, 2022



well at least we know he’ll come back in tip top shape

J0rdan S., Thursday, 3 November 2022 18:44 (three years ago)

that sucks

im a beacon of light (Spottie), Thursday, 3 November 2022 18:49 (three years ago)

not much talk about the bucks here yet and I've only seen one game from them so far. what's the assessment of them as avoiding the 2022 weirdness?

“Cheeky cheeky!” she trills, nearly demolishing a roadside post (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 3 November 2022 19:04 (three years ago)

brook is playing like a top 5 center. they seem like a well oiled machine at this point. and all w no khris

im a beacon of light (Spottie), Thursday, 3 November 2022 19:06 (three years ago)

otm he was 5/8 from 3 against the hawks

Heez, Thursday, 3 November 2022 19:32 (three years ago)

avg 3 blocks per game atm

im a beacon of light (Spottie), Thursday, 3 November 2022 19:39 (three years ago)

bucks remain scary to me

cavs play so nice too. really good ball these days

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 3 November 2022 19:48 (three years ago)

fun to watch, likable players. the league is stacked right now

im a beacon of light (Spottie), Thursday, 3 November 2022 20:06 (three years ago)

yeah its good. when the talent level gets high enough it rewards the well constructed teams and thats what we're seeing

ciderpress, Thursday, 3 November 2022 20:45 (three years ago)

this is pretty wild

Warriors going against a towering Orlando starting lineup tonight

Paolo Banchero (6-10)
Bol Bol (7-2)
Wendell Carter Jr. (6-10)
Franz Wagner (6-10)
Jalen Suggs (6-5)

— Anthony Slater (@anthonyVslater) November 3, 2022

im a beacon of light (Spottie), Thursday, 3 November 2022 22:59 (three years ago)

smh need to get suggs out of there

lag∞n, Thursday, 3 November 2022 23:00 (three years ago)

if only the raptors didn’t take 6’8” scottie barnes

comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Thursday, 3 November 2022 23:10 (three years ago)

continuing the search for funding my Small Ball Association where all players must be 5'10" or shorter

“Cheeky cheeky!” she trills, nearly demolishing a roadside post (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 3 November 2022 23:12 (three years ago)

All-Star Lay Up Line

“Cheeky cheeky!” she trills, nearly demolishing a roadside post (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 3 November 2022 23:13 (three years ago)

suggs good now

Jalen Suggs, sheesh. can we check that x-ray pic.twitter.com/pVCWYyBJ5P

— Steve Jones Jr. (@stevejones20) November 4, 2022

...may have that dog in him. pic.twitter.com/EDhuzfKPAo

— Steve Jones Jr. (@stevejones20) November 4, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 4 November 2022 01:37 (three years ago)

and klay misses the buzzer beater down 1

lag∞n, Friday, 4 November 2022 01:39 (three years ago)

i'm happy that i randomly tuned in to the best game of jalen suggs pro career

call all destroyer, Friday, 4 November 2022 01:45 (three years ago)

warriors are bad

k3vin k., Friday, 4 November 2022 01:56 (three years ago)

the computer knew but we would not listen

lag∞n, Friday, 4 November 2022 01:56 (three years ago)

The two timeline thing was never a good idea. You can do a couple youngsters but having your roster half full of unplayable and inconsistent kids isn’t gonna work for winning. They have 6.5 playable guys atm. The core looks good but not having vets like Otto, GP2, iggy, Lee, jta and Belli to throw out there is no good. I think they gotta bench wiseman for a while and prob give all his minutes to Kuminga who has shown last year that he can at least play some defense and catch a lob and get to the line

im a beacon of light (Spottie), Friday, 4 November 2022 02:53 (three years ago)

yeah silly idea, arrogant

lag∞n, Friday, 4 November 2022 03:06 (three years ago)

what they need to do is trade everything not tied down while steph is still good

micah, Friday, 4 November 2022 06:55 (three years ago)

a core of wiseman/kuminga/poole has an absolute ceiling as the washington wizards. time to make some moves

micah, Friday, 4 November 2022 06:56 (three years ago)

i was surprised they stayed pat last trade deadline but it obv worked out fine for them at the time

slai gorgeous-alexander (m bison), Friday, 4 November 2022 11:21 (three years ago)

Maybe they've decided to get in on the Wembanyama sweepstakes.

Rabbity Gainsborough (Leee), Friday, 4 November 2022 15:04 (three years ago)

if they had just drafted different guys they would be looking "light years ahead" but of course drafting the right guys is really hard so u gotta factor that in

lag∞n, Friday, 4 November 2022 15:08 (three years ago)

taking wiseman over ball is actually inexcusable tho

lag∞n, Friday, 4 November 2022 15:26 (three years ago)

old school move to go for the raw athletic center

lag∞n, Friday, 4 November 2022 15:28 (three years ago)

especially perplexing for a team whos star is a not physically dominating guy thats just really good at basketball

lag∞n, Friday, 4 November 2022 15:28 (three years ago)

i find it hard to say they had the wrong idea when they just won the title. i think you have to say they unambiguously succeeded in their plan regardless of how good these guys turn out.

i think ultimately what happened is that the crown jewel of the whole plan was a top 2 pick in a year where two of the undisputed top 3 guys were guards in what also is looking like a pretty bad draft. you can ding them for taking wiseman over lamelo but it’s a whole alternate timeline of the warriors to start thinking about lamelo’s development playing behind steph in a totally different system & style of basketball than charlotte. patrick williams would be more useful than wiseman at this point but picks 4-10 of that draft leave a lot to be desired, to say the least. there was an argument for them taking halliburton but again you get into the same issues regarding how his career plays out. what happens with jordan poole in that scenario? if instead of picking between lamelo and wiseman the warriors had gotten the opportunity to select between i.e. jabari smith and chet — two much easier system fits — we might be having a different convo. what if it was evan mobley instead of wiseman?

franz over kuminga may end up hurting, but for as good as franz looks he isn’t a franchise altering superstar. he would be a legitimate bridge player between the eras, but they’d still be looking for the top 10 player in the league type guy either way. unless you stumble into a paul george, kawhi, donovan mitchell, bam etc type jackpot you’re only gonna squeeze so much out of picks 7 and 14. unless you think franz is getting to that level they still drafted fairly well with those picks as it stands now

J0rdan S., Friday, 4 November 2022 15:31 (three years ago)

Wiseman over lamelo was basically them flinching at the full commit to the two timelines, like he’d be curry’s successor whereas wiseman was theoretically going to slot into the current group’s lineup. Obviously didn’t work out that way

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Friday, 4 November 2022 15:33 (three years ago)

In other words Jordan otm

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Friday, 4 November 2022 15:34 (three years ago)

i mean they won a chip with the old guys but i dont the plan was called one timeline

lag∞n, Friday, 4 November 2022 15:35 (three years ago)

and idk i mean you can go into alternate histories as much as you want but i do think drafting the better players would be the way to go, and as long as were doing it if they had drafted lemelo theyd be a lot better than they are now lol

lag∞n, Friday, 4 November 2022 15:37 (three years ago)

i mean they just won the title idk how a lot better you can get. i mean, does anyone think lamelo would’ve been some huge impact player in the finals last year? cuz i don’t. he prob plays the same exact role as poole.

in any event i personally still think kuminga is a real player & moody clearly has an NBA future. poole could be an all star. they’re gonna be a free agent destination whenever they first have cap space. there may be some middling years whenever steph actually stops being amazing but their future still seems pretty bright to me

J0rdan S., Friday, 4 November 2022 15:44 (three years ago)

lamelo is so much better than poole lol what are you talking about, hes legit star player, they really would be set up to have a next generation

lag∞n, Friday, 4 November 2022 15:45 (three years ago)


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