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theyre cld be floating a year to make a show of how seriously theyre taking this then give him 20 games or something


see i actually think it’s the opposite. they saw what happened with the league and sarver. i think they leaked all this out to see if there would be a huge public backlash to them suspending him but not firing him, which it seems like there isn’t. but i don’t think they can rewind it back any further than a year long suspension if that’s what they put out there initially

J0rdan S., Thursday, 22 September 2022 18:51 (one year ago) link

dont think im the one who needs to take deep breaths here


i have no idea what the appropriate punishment is & i agree there’s no grave moral injustice in a consensual office affair, if it was fully consensual and non-coercive. i just think you’re really naive if you don’t understand why this is playing out in this fashion

J0rdan S., Thursday, 22 September 2022 18:53 (one year ago) link

if ime was steve clifford ppl would find it laughable that a team would be willing to suspend him for a year and take all the PR blowback associated with this whole mess in order to stick by him

not sure if this was your point but it doesn't seem to me like a grave injustice that one's actual job performance should factor into the equation when determining how many misdeeds your employer is willing to put up with/stand by you while you get your shit together

too much speculation in this thread without knowing the deets

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Thursday, 22 September 2022 18:54 (one year ago) link

i just think you’re really naive if you don’t understand why this is playing out in this fashion
― J0rdan S., Thursday, September 22, 2022 2:53 PM (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

is it because of the illuminati

lag∞n, Thursday, 22 September 2022 18:59 (one year ago) link

if they want to fire him for pr reasons fine go with god wyc grousbeck your name is literally pronounced wick you made your money working with mitt romney it is what it is, but i should not be made to care about their corporate human resources polices thats none of my business, but they will probably suspend him for one year because thats the stupidest possible outcome

lag∞n, Thursday, 22 September 2022 19:04 (one year ago) link

ok ignoring you until this weird little attitude dissipates xp

J0rdan S., Thursday, 22 September 2022 19:05 (one year ago) link

not sure if this was your point but it doesn't seem to me like a grave injustice that one's actual job performance should factor into the equation when determining how many misdeeds your employer is willing to put up with/stand by you while you get your shit together


well, a lot of ppl would disagree with the idea that if you’re good enough at your job you should have more license to disrupt the workplace than ppl who are less good at their jobs. that certainly *is* the way the world works, but you could easily make the argument that it shouldn’t be how the world works. one could point to any number of tyrannical workplaces ran by very successful ppl to explain how the idea that “better” employees should get more leeway can be a disastrously slippery slope. you could find plenty of ppl with firsthand experience who would actually describe such a thing as a “grave injustice.” no idea how much any of this framework applies in this situation, but just speaking generally. and yes ime should consider himself lucky that his bosses perceive him to be a good enough coach that he is keeping his job in this instance

J0rdan S., Thursday, 22 September 2022 19:06 (one year ago) link

ok ignoring you until this weird little attitude dissipates xp

― J0rdan S., Thursday, September 22, 2022 3:05 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

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lag∞n, Thursday, 22 September 2022 19:08 (one year ago) link

Thinking about this more and he absolutely would be fired if he hadn't just come off a Finals appearance, which makes the entire thing feel a little more icky/crass.

i need to put some clouds behind the reaper (PBKR), Thursday, 22 September 2022 19:14 (one year ago) link

Anyway, just want to ask someone more technologically inclined to dub "How do you like them applesvibes" over that scene from Good Will Hunting."

i need to put some clouds behind the reaper (PBKR), Thursday, 22 September 2022 19:17 (one year ago) link

my hot take is that corporate HR policies are actually good

call all destroyer, Thursday, 22 September 2022 19:27 (one year ago) link

lol thats clearly not a defensible statement

lag∞n, Thursday, 22 September 2022 19:29 (one year ago) link

i mean if you want to pick some out that you like thats fine

lag∞n, Thursday, 22 September 2022 19:30 (one year ago) link

that’s a complicated one lol… corporate HR people work on behalf of satan, generally, or may actually be satan himself in some instances. i would say that workplace relationships involving subordinates are frowned upon for a good reason on a macro level.

it’s also prob not a coincidence that ppl like jeff zucker and gerson rosas who get pushed out of their orgs nominally for having workplace affairs also seem to be running dysfunctional workplaces in general

J0rdan S., Thursday, 22 September 2022 19:53 (one year ago) link

well yeah actual implementation is a different story but policy is useful as a mechanism for helping to ensure that the work environment doesn't backslide to 1963 due to offensive, harassing, or coercive behavior

call all destroyer, Thursday, 22 September 2022 19:59 (one year ago) link

i think we can all generally support anti mad men office policies, but corporate hr also includes rules like getting a formal warning for using the bathroom without management approval

lag∞n, Thursday, 22 September 2022 20:02 (one year ago) link

m bison asleep on the job as we discuss this subject… suspicious

J0rdan S., Thursday, 22 September 2022 20:04 (one year ago) link

we need to hear from the authoritarian left on this

lag∞n, Thursday, 22 September 2022 20:09 (one year ago) link

policy is useful as a mechanism for helping to ensure that the work environment doesn't backslide to 1963 due to offensive, harassing, or coercive behavior

^^^
A 2022 workplace without such policies would be a cesspool.

i need to put some clouds behind the reaper (PBKR), Thursday, 22 September 2022 20:26 (one year ago) link

idk about all that, maybe in finance

lag∞n, Thursday, 22 September 2022 20:32 (one year ago) link

ultimately the rules are designed to protect the corporations not the humans, which ends up showing in a lot of their flaws

lag∞n, Thursday, 22 September 2022 20:34 (one year ago) link

and obviously the power dynamics that allow people to harm others in those situations are created and fostered by the corporations

lag∞n, Thursday, 22 September 2022 20:37 (one year ago) link

i mean robert sarver is 60 years old so its prob fair to assume he broke hr rules for decades without censure, because they werent for him

lag∞n, Thursday, 22 September 2022 20:51 (one year ago) link

m bison asleep on the job as we discuss this subject… suspicious

― J0rdan S., Thursday, September 22, 2022 3:04 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

sry i cant surf the web during the day bc the youth of america depend on me

(lagoon uncharacteristically off tm itt, take off yr celtics glasses)

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Thursday, 22 September 2022 22:51 (one year ago) link

i dont want to thats the whole point, i would like to just watch a lil basketball and not have to deal with the minutiae of corporate hr and boning at work, its lame

lag∞n, Thursday, 22 September 2022 23:09 (one year ago) link

but also im right, and if you disagree then youre neoliberal go watch a dvd of the west wing

lag∞n, Thursday, 22 September 2022 23:17 (one year ago) link

what's a dvd

Clay, Thursday, 22 September 2022 23:31 (one year ago) link

clays down with the cause

lag∞n, Thursday, 22 September 2022 23:31 (one year ago) link

there it is, rip

pic.twitter.com/ySo5wGKrfX

— Boston Celtics (@celtics) September 23, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 23 September 2022 01:25 (one year ago) link

and ime's statement for the record

NEW: Statement from Celtics coach Ime Udoka pic.twitter.com/MFutFx7c3l

— Malika Andrews (@malika_andrews) September 23, 2022

call all destroyer, Friday, 23 September 2022 01:52 (one year ago) link

seems super unlikely hell ever be back with the team year suspension is prob just to give the lawyers time to sort out the details

lag∞n, Friday, 23 September 2022 02:11 (one year ago) link

agreed, this is about working out a separation

call all destroyer, Friday, 23 September 2022 02:15 (one year ago) link

some wild rumors on twitter about what happened but idk im sure well get the details before long

lag∞n, Friday, 23 September 2022 02:18 (one year ago) link

alex cora did come back to the red sox after a year suspension but that was from the league not the team. so did sean payton but again same thing

J0rdan S., Friday, 23 September 2022 02:39 (one year ago) link

and obv those were on-field rules things, not this bullshit

call all destroyer, Friday, 23 September 2022 02:40 (one year ago) link

iirc the red sox fired cora before the league suspended him, but that whole situation was weird, seemed very planned out

lag∞n, Friday, 23 September 2022 02:41 (one year ago) link

not this bullshit

I think I'll wait to see how many more shoes drop before calling bullshit.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 23 September 2022 03:26 (one year ago) link

i think you misunderstand me or maybe you just didn't read back far enough

call all destroyer, Friday, 23 September 2022 03:37 (one year ago) link

Just smashed my TV in front of 25 guests at my sons birthday party because of the Celtics. My wife just took our crying kids and said they’re all spending the week at her mom’s house. This team has ruined my marriage. I can’t handle this anymore. Goodbye, I am no longer a fan. pic.twitter.com/HuweKOPvss

— Real NBA Quotez  (@realnbaquotxz) September 23, 2022

lagoon it’s ok

k3vin k., Friday, 23 September 2022 03:43 (one year ago) link

the 26th guest was his mamba mentality

some guys get so emotional about having a tv I swear

Clay, Friday, 23 September 2022 04:56 (one year ago) link

Whew, boy. https://t.co/w7s7Wf3Hmr pic.twitter.com/IykkxOVHFa

— Nekias (Nuh-KY-us) Duncan (@NekiasNBA) September 23, 2022

Spottie, Friday, 23 September 2022 07:47 (one year ago) link

surely there can't be a vulnerable woman trapped under all this? no, it must be corporate hr virtue signalling

micah, Friday, 23 September 2022 10:23 (one year ago) link

its looking like what happened was udoka and a woman on staff were having an affair management found out and asked them to stop which they agreed to but then udoka didnt want it to stop he was hounding her to stay with him so she went back to management to complain, which if true obviously hes a dumbass who was given a chance to rectified an error in judgement but instead decided to make it worse

lag∞n, Friday, 23 September 2022 11:15 (one year ago) link

its also out there that shes married to a celtics vp, which is just uh wildly reckless lol

lag∞n, Friday, 23 September 2022 11:22 (one year ago) link

i did a little poking around and i don’t believe that part is true

call all destroyer, Friday, 23 September 2022 12:47 (one year ago) link

well at least theres that

lag∞n, Friday, 23 September 2022 13:51 (one year ago) link

a little poking around started this mess

ayye

lag∞n, Friday, 23 September 2022 13:55 (one year ago) link

Matt Barnes on the situation with ime. He was told what happened and it sounds like it’s pretty bad. pic.twitter.com/PnMZzR2WsW

— Ant ☘️🏀 (@GangCeltics) September 23, 2022

Spottie, Friday, 23 September 2022 17:55 (one year ago) link


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