they should def add that mid-season tournament then so the play-offs can be back-to-backs, making for even better basketball
― Clay, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 03:41 (two years ago) link
i was traveling today so apologies for bringing this back to the butler conversation real quick
both lebron and KD played fewer games than butler, so i don't find that to be a valid argument even if that is the explanation. even still butler was 8th in raptor, sixth in win shares per 48, and tenth in total win shares on the no 1 team in the east. he got penalized for the heat being great all year w/ ppl rotating thru the line up but a basic glance at the all in one stats says he's a top 15 player in the league at minimum. i think he also got penalized for the national media's huge overreaction to the spat w/ spo which we now know in retrospect was not a big deal (this was clear the next week when they beat chicago, toronto and boston on a road trip but i digress). simmons & rusillo did a convoluted top 25 players in the league podcast towards the end of the year and his name barely even came up. just as one example.
i see trae as a superficially better player than butler. he runs a better pick and roll and is a better three point shooter. but in terms of everything else on the court most notably defense butler is the superior player, to me. he has a tone setting ability on both ends of the court that trae's offensive skill alone cannot outweigh. even given the respective rosters i think this was evident in the playoff matchup.
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 25 May 2022 06:32 (two years ago) link
I think they’re on similar tiers but butler is better atm. Defense matters too much to just brush aside.
― Spottie, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 06:43 (two years ago) link
Jimmy’s awesome and all but he’s surrounded by a really well constructed roster. We’ve seen what happens when that’s not the case
― Heez, Tuesday, May 24, 2022 9:11 PM (yesterday)
the bulls fell off majorly after they traded butler, he was an oasis in a desert of ineptitude in minnesota until this year (after winning the lottery again) and the sixers best player openly laments them letting him go. the heat post-lebron topped out as a second round team and have made the east finals twice in three years w/ jimmy there. he's raised the level of every team he's been on. he obv isn't as good as guys like prime lebron, KD etc who elevate their teams to championship contention but he's been in the NBA 11 years and made the playoffs 10 times.
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 25 May 2022 06:44 (two years ago) link
the first round had a lot of competitive games and compelling stylistic matchups and then it's just gone to hell
― symsymsym, Tuesday, May 24, 2022 11:08 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
celtics-bucks was great
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 11:13 (two years ago) link
j0rdan otm, jimmy buckets is him
― terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Wednesday, 25 May 2022 12:02 (two years ago) link
jimmys good big jimmy fan
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 12:06 (two years ago) link
hes also cool
Apparently this is cos of the play in games. Tightens the playoff schedule.
― Spottie, Tuesday, May 24, 2022 11:38 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
guess the playoffs havent been shortened its a combo of putting a ton of rest in the first round to satisfy tv concerns and then a second round series on each side going seven, anyway it stinks
This argument doesn't actually bear out. In 2019, the previous full season, the playoffs started on April 13 and Game 7 of the Finals was scheduled for June 16 (64 days). This year, the playoffs started on April 16 and Game 7 of the Finals is scheduled for June 19 (64 days). https://t.co/Zg42qIee35— Kevin Pelton (@kpelton) May 25, 2022
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 12:12 (two years ago) link
and this sched has been done before, tho that doesnt mean its not bad, it is bad
You don't even need to say that much. Just look at the 2019 Conference Finals dates. Both played on alternating days. All of a sudden rest is to blame for poor performance.https://t.co/ZlcZ4PZHVthttps://t.co/CVRcYd9jo6— Steven Le (@steven_le) May 25, 2022
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 12:15 (two years ago) link
cuban shouldve asked his stat guys to check it out before tweeting lol
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 12:16 (two years ago) link
Xxxxcpost back to Buckets, Jord otm... There was so much focus on the messy drama of how it ended people forget that the Jimmy year he was great and it was a good team, they went from 31 to 47 wins
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 25 May 2022 12:43 (two years ago) link
he was also totally right in pointing out that his teammates did not have “that dog” in them
― in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 25 May 2022 12:52 (two years ago) link
not only is jimmy good and cool hes also right
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 13:09 (two years ago) link
2019 conference finals were not played after multiple shortened/weird offseasons though
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 13:11 (two years ago) link
i think the celtics are a lot better than the heat when all their guys are healthy which is the main reason why that series has seemed so swingy they were missing guys that were crucial to the matchup in some games
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 13:13 (two years ago) link
if everyone was healthy it would have looked more like the wcf where one team is clearly better
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 13:14 (two years ago) link
I'm a little emotional today, had to tell my daughter about the school shooting then send her to school today
I just really appreciate Steve Kerr and what he said
At an all company meeting talking about what happened and that video came up and it was definitely shared and resonated with a lot of people who have no idea who he was until yesterday
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 25 May 2022 16:30 (two years ago) link
Kerr does seem like a good guy, even when watching The Last Dance I got the impression that he was particularly thoughtful and selfless for an NBA player
― frogbs, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 16:35 (two years ago) link
i appreciate what he said, he was better than most other public figures, it was also interesting to watch him clearly struggling with his closely held beliefs in real time, as im sure a lot of comfortable liberals are, vacillating between imploring sentaors to pass legislation and realizing that they just dont care
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 16:38 (two years ago) link
What a legend
https://sports.yahoo.com/magic-johnson-made-one-appearance-on-espn-after-being-hired-as-a-frequent-nba-analyst-204109516.html
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 25 May 2022 22:35 (two years ago) link
dude really just does whatever he wants
― Spottie, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 22:42 (two years ago) link
i was gonna go on espn but instead i made a documentary about myself
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 23:16 (two years ago) link
got to protect the brand first
― Clay, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 23:30 (two years ago) link
i can't speak for magic but when hbo made a trashy and inflammatory show about my early successes i just stopped going on television as a protest
― Clay, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 23:32 (two years ago) link
i think players only voting would turn up worse results than the media being involved
Jalen Rose admitted on NBA Countdown that it was a mistake to put Kyrie Irving on the All-NBA 3rd team. #NBATwitter #NetsLevel pic.twitter.com/x5jUl5svBX— 𝙏𝙖𝙡𝙠𝙞𝙣’ 𝙉𝘽𝘼 (@_Talkin_NBA) May 25, 2022
― Spottie, Thursday, 26 May 2022 00:16 (two years ago) link
they should just decouple the all nba teams from super max contracts and then the players can go back to not really caring
― lag∞n, Thursday, 26 May 2022 00:18 (two years ago) link
true
― Spottie, Thursday, 26 May 2022 00:21 (two years ago) link
i keep forgetting which series starts the games on time and which one doesn't and rushing home just to wait for 20 minutes
― ciderpress, Thursday, 26 May 2022 00:38 (two years ago) link
jaylen still can't dribble the ball, just turned it over two possessions in a row again
― ciderpress, Thursday, 26 May 2022 01:02 (two years ago) link
we need investigative reporting
― lag∞n, Thursday, 26 May 2022 01:03 (two years ago) link
another one!
― ciderpress, Thursday, 26 May 2022 01:11 (two years ago) link
another one
― ciderpress, Thursday, 26 May 2022 01:25 (two years ago) link
Some real poor shooting going on
― Spottie, Thursday, 26 May 2022 01:40 (two years ago) link
what a hideous basketball game. the celts might fuck around and let the heat offensive rebound themselves into a win but i feel like the nail in the coffin run is coming here at some point
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 26 May 2022 01:43 (two years ago) link
my main takeaway from that half is that something is very wrong with butler, he looks awful. he has no lift on his jumper and isn’t getting to the line at all or really doing anything on offense aside from shooting like standstill shots
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 26 May 2022 01:44 (two years ago) link
feels like theres something wrong with all the scoring threats on both teams. everyone must be gassed and/or playing hurt
― ciderpress, Thursday, 26 May 2022 01:46 (two years ago) link
Espn halftime show is a joke. They talk for 30 seconds and then it’s commercial time again.
― Spottie, Thursday, 26 May 2022 01:49 (two years ago) link
everyone looks dead. the every other day schedule is insanity at this point in the season.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 26 May 2022 01:52 (two years ago) link
ive never watched a halftime show in my life, thats posting time
― ciderpress, Thursday, 26 May 2022 01:53 (two years ago) link
my brain has an auto-shutoff feature that kicks in when mike greenberg talks
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 26 May 2022 01:54 (two years ago) link
this has been the least interesting conference finals round I can remember. hope the Finals don't suck.
― frogbs, Thursday, 26 May 2022 01:54 (two years ago) link
they sacrificed the conference finals to get more weekend games in the first round
― ciderpress, Thursday, 26 May 2022 01:57 (two years ago) link
you know how a bunch of comedies have that one frumpy depressed looking guy who's in a position of authority but clearly hates his job? Jeff Van Gundy could've played all those guys
― frogbs, Thursday, 26 May 2022 01:58 (two years ago) link
lmao like 60% of the crowd is gone. I get that last game when the Celtics were up by like 30 but this is the first close game they've gotten!
― frogbs, Thursday, 26 May 2022 02:00 (two years ago) link
were they there in the first place?
― ciderpress, Thursday, 26 May 2022 02:00 (two years ago) link
physically, yeah
― frogbs, Thursday, 26 May 2022 02:02 (two years ago) link
heat using strus as a pick and roll ballhandler is really scraping the bottom of the barrel
― lag∞n, Thursday, 26 May 2022 02:05 (two years ago) link
horf coast 2 coast baby!
― lag∞n, Thursday, 26 May 2022 02:06 (two years ago) link
strus heard your comment and is making his way to the locker room
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 26 May 2022 02:07 (two years ago) link