i agree there is a lack of precedent but i also think what we have seen continuously is that superstar players have gotten what they wanted over teams one way or another.
if the reporting on harden's mindset is true and he isn't traded, this is what i would expect: no way he plays hard for the rest of the regular season. he'll either stay hurt or play at half speed. the nets will end up on the wrong half of the bracket.
he would pull himself together enough to try in the playoffs but it will be a shaky team that's barely played together and they'll struggle to win more than a series based on what the matchups are. and then he'll leave.
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 9 February 2022 18:17 (two years ago) link
all of that may be true and i still don't think they would be better this season w/ simmons, so what's the point. if he wants to go to philly in the offseason trade him then.
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 9 February 2022 18:26 (two years ago) link
Durant's big-ass shoe really did ruin everything huh
― frogbs, Wednesday, 9 February 2022 18:29 (two years ago) link
xp yeah, i get it. i just don't think the nets can leverage harden in any meaningful way that benefits them.
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 9 February 2022 18:30 (two years ago) link
Yah I don’t think the nets hold all the cards here. Sign n trades are hard to pull off. I’m sure they’d rather get the sure thing right now.
― Spottie, Wednesday, 9 February 2022 18:36 (two years ago) link
Philly certainly doesn't hold all the cards, I just think their situation has been "baked in" for a while since we know Simmons isn't playing for them again, whereas the Harden stuff is what is volatile right now.
― removing bookmarks never felt so good (PBKR), Wednesday, 9 February 2022 18:56 (two years ago) link
Sign n trades are hard to pull off.
― Spottie, Wednesday, February 9, 2022 1:36 PM (twenty-three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
also have weird cap repercussions
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 9 February 2022 19:00 (two years ago) link
believe it has weird cap repercussions for the acquiring team but not the selling team. i could be wrong tho
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 9 February 2022 19:01 (two years ago) link
it definitely hard caps the acquiring team
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 9 February 2022 19:02 (two years ago) link
.@WindhorstESPN on Harden: “I can’t tell you how much James Harden wants this [trade]. You’ve gotta be very careful using the ‘Q’ word or saying whatever, but his actions over the past 10 days are basically a threat to the Nets."— Bryan Toporek (@btoporek) February 9, 2022
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 9 February 2022 19:06 (two years ago) link
given his history that's entirely believable
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 9 February 2022 19:07 (two years ago) link
harden wants to be back with morey who catered to him completely, which means hell be trading embiid around this time next year
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 9 February 2022 19:09 (two years ago) link
Better trade himself, too.
― removing bookmarks never felt so good (PBKR), Wednesday, 9 February 2022 19:11 (two years ago) link
lol #thisleague Managing these egos for more than half a season is a miracle unto itself
― Spottie, Wednesday, 9 February 2022 19:11 (two years ago) link
tbh it's a pretty massive failure on the nets part that they weren't able to manage the egos enough to even get two playoff runs out of this team when managing egos is the entire job description if you go all in on the super team model
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 9 February 2022 19:14 (two years ago) link
no one couldve guess that building a team around three weird malcontents would turn out this way, but im sure replacing one of them with another weird malcontent should solve the problem
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 9 February 2022 19:14 (two years ago) link
haha
tbf to the nets kyrie being an antivaxxer really fucked thing up for them, team prob wouldnt have melted down for another year at least
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 9 February 2022 19:15 (two years ago) link
i forget who said it on which podcast but someone (prob windhorst or someone at ESPN) was saying that the original genesis of this nets team is the bond between KD and kyrie and that their bond is still as strong as ever. so maybe that wins out, but if you're KD what's holding you to the nets if they trade for simmons and it's weird and doesn't work or you just don't like what the franchise is doing. why not force your way out (to the miami heat)
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 9 February 2022 19:17 (two years ago) link
kyrie can opt out this year too, might be thinking about going to a place where hes allowed to play
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 9 February 2022 19:19 (two years ago) link
The CBA has finally created a league where every player, coach, front office executive, and owner makes good money, and no one knows what the hell is happening 95% of the time.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 9 February 2022 19:20 (two years ago) link
according to my calculations the real winner of this whole situation is... the houston rockets
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 9 February 2022 19:23 (two years ago) link
The Utah Jazz are acquiring guard Portland’s Nickeil Alexander-Walker and the Spurs’ Juancho Hernangomez in a three-way deal, sources tell ESPN. The Spurs gets guard Tomas Satoransky and a second-round pick, and the Blazers get Joe Ingles, Elijah Hughes and a second-round pick.— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) February 9, 2022
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 9 February 2022 19:25 (two years ago) link
and here’s the spin from woj
The Jazz are sending out the two second-round picks in the deal, sources tell ESPN. Alexander-Walker, 23, has the chance to make an impact on the Jazz's bench and assuredly will benefit in Utah's development system. Averaged 13 points for Pels and will be a part of rotation. https://t.co/rvZ6SN1Zmx— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) February 9, 2022
like that for the jazz, they desperately need someone who still a little young with some theoretical upside
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 9 February 2022 19:32 (two years ago) link
If Danny Ainge proved anything as Celtics GM, it's that you can't own too many second round draft picks. Or was it 'shouldn't own'?
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 9 February 2022 19:33 (two years ago) link
the key word there being theoretical xp
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 9 February 2022 19:34 (two years ago) link
NAW has been pretty bad but seems like the type of guy you wouldnt mind giving a second chance, not sure about two picks for him tho, if thats what happened this trade is confusing spurs get a second for exchanging juancho for satoransky? good work if you can get it i guess
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 9 February 2022 19:52 (two years ago) link
― Spottie, Wednesday, 9 February 2022 20:10 (two years ago) link
That’s supposed to link to the 1:18 mark
― Spottie, Wednesday, 9 February 2022 20:11 (two years ago) link
Heat and Thunder have agreed to amend the terms of the first-round pick Miami owes OKC in a way that gives the Heat more flexibility to trade picks now -- details in release. Potentially important. https://t.co/BeRK8EHglj— Zach Lowe (@ZachLowe_NBA) February 9, 2022
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 9 February 2022 20:13 (two years ago) link
i wonder how much cash did Miami handed OKC for changing this
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 9 February 2022 20:20 (two years ago) link
By amending the first round pick that was originally owed in 2023 to now 2025, the Heat have available their 2022 or 2023 first to use in a deal.The first was originally top 14 protected in 23, 24, 25 and unprotected in 26. https://t.co/LzvoVT69j0— Bobby Marks (@BobbyMarks42) February 9, 2022
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 9 February 2022 20:39 (two years ago) link
Gotta think richaun Holmes is on the trading block with sabonis coming in.
― Spottie, Wednesday, 9 February 2022 20:47 (two years ago) link
either holmes or harrison barnes would be a nice pickup for them
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 9 February 2022 20:56 (two years ago) link
just watched the condensed replay of the bucks/lakers, holy cannoli the lakers are hapless
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 February 2022 21:17 (two years ago) link
The Nets have ruled James Harden (left hamstring tightness) OUT for Thursday's game at Washington.— Marc Stein (@TheSteinLine) February 9, 2022
― lag∞n, Thursday, 10 February 2022 00:03 (two years ago) link
looking at the lakers trade options and they have nothing. they dont own their next few picks, they have no desirable players, nothing. malik monk is probably their only contract of any value (outside lebron and ad) and he is on a one year deal. what a shitshow.
― micah, Thursday, 10 February 2022 00:04 (two years ago) link
its pretty awesome lol
― lag∞n, Thursday, 10 February 2022 00:05 (two years ago) link
they got a fake ring out of all this so it’s probably worth it
― Clay, Thursday, 10 February 2022 00:06 (two years ago) link
looks good on lebrons resume
― lag∞n, Thursday, 10 February 2022 00:06 (two years ago) link
4 nba championships** (3 real ones and 1 in something called “the bubble”?)
― Clay, Thursday, 10 February 2022 00:11 (two years ago) link
The Lakers say LeBron James and Dwight Howard are both active tonight. Russell Westbrook (lower back tightness) is out.— Jovan Buha (@jovanbuha) February 10, 2022
🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
― frogbs, Thursday, 10 February 2022 02:14 (two years ago) link
Lotta tightness going around...
― DJI, Thursday, 10 February 2022 02:18 (two years ago) link
checking in on the lakers/blazers box score....first two guys off the blazers bench are t. watford and k. blevins, who i have never heard of and who definitely sound like fictional players from a video game. lakers have a chance in this one.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 10 February 2022 03:36 (two years ago) link
blevins is damian lillard's cousin and has floated between the blazers and the developmental leagues and is 100% a nepotism case
― Clay, Thursday, 10 February 2022 03:43 (two years ago) link
this is like a video game pass
I legit have no clue what I just saw pic.twitter.com/oAHfEWIljf— NBA/Paint 🎨 (@NBAPaint1) February 9, 2022
― frogbs, Thursday, 10 February 2022 03:44 (two years ago) link
xp oh yeah that guy! i forgot about him, thank you for the reminder.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 10 February 2022 03:53 (two years ago) link
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, February 9, 2022 9:36 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
Blevins is a game-high +7
― frogbs, Thursday, 10 February 2022 04:54 (two years ago) link
does Frank Vogel not do the "let's take care of the ball and fight for rebounds" speech every quarter? maybe it would help
― frogbs, Thursday, 10 February 2022 04:58 (two years ago) link