nice lil 83 piece the nuggets hung on the knicks in the first half
― auld gang syne (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 9 February 2022 03:07 (two years ago) link
giannis block on brow’s jumpshot 😍
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 9 February 2022 03:10 (two years ago) link
watching the lakers struggle with half a roster didnt really do it for me. i need to see them get blown out at full strength
― micah, Wednesday, 9 February 2022 03:10 (two years ago) link
otm
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 9 February 2022 03:15 (two years ago) link
the nuggets halftime show was amazing. thoroughly mediocre 10 year olds playing basketball. white team beats the blue team 4-0
― auld gang syne (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 9 February 2022 03:15 (two years ago) link
aw lil bit sad
couple of courtside fans at the Pelicans game pic.twitter.com/PlaCXN3gZa— Rob Perez (@WorldWideWob) February 9, 2022
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 9 February 2022 03:18 (two years ago) link
jfc Bucks save some of this for the playoffs
― frogbs, Wednesday, 9 February 2022 03:39 (two years ago) link
did Lebron just get T'd up for whining
― frogbs, Wednesday, 9 February 2022 04:07 (two years ago) link
― Spottie, Wednesday, 9 February 2022 04:10 (two years ago) link
westbrook is missing jumpers from the charge circle far left. it's a problem.
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 9 February 2022 04:14 (two years ago) link
for some reason the refs seem happier to hand bron Ts for ragging them this season. feels like it was a group decision behind the scenes to get him to back off some
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 9 February 2022 04:15 (two years ago) link
that sequence by the Lakers was some of the ugliest basketball I've ever seen in my life
― frogbs, Wednesday, 9 February 2022 04:32 (two years ago) link
Lmaokers
― Spottie, Wednesday, 9 February 2022 04:39 (two years ago) link
jealous of all the Lakers fans who are getting to witness an all-time Bobby Portis game right now
― frogbs, Wednesday, 9 February 2022 04:46 (two years ago) link
it's wild that I can say with confidence: The Minnesota Timberwolves are a better team than the Lakers
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 February 2022 15:43 (two years ago) link
Windhorst now reporting that he expects Harden and Simmons to get done by 3pm Thursday, fwiw.
― removing bookmarks never felt so good (PBKR), Wednesday, 9 February 2022 17:28 (two years ago) link
it's not clear to me why the nets would pull the plug on harden at the deadline instead of just playing the season out. clearly ben simmons isn't going to be traded for anyone else in the next 24 hours
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 9 February 2022 17:37 (two years ago) link
it's clear to me the deadline drama is what we here for so bring it
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 9 February 2022 17:40 (two years ago) link
I think the nets might be worried about Harden acting like he did at the end of Houston, which he's basically started doing already.
Still not expecting it to get done before the offseason myself, but it will be "fun" if it does.
― removing bookmarks never felt so good (PBKR), Wednesday, 9 February 2022 17:42 (two years ago) link
Yah and Harden may be making demands on the backend
― Spottie, Wednesday, 9 February 2022 17:42 (two years ago) link
That's basically what Windhorst was saying - Harden is basically screaming he wants out without literally going to the media to request it.
― removing bookmarks never felt so good (PBKR), Wednesday, 9 February 2022 17:44 (two years ago) link
i dunno i mean, once the deadline passes what are harden's options? he's going to mope on the court and not try for the whole second half of the season and the playoffs? to prove what point? if he wants to go after the season he can go, but it's fair to assume if he was still on the nets he would try to win. in reality he really has no leverage after the deadline due to who has cap space in the offseason, if he wants to move to any contender incl philly it will have to be via sign and trade. the nets are holding the cards.
my only assumption is that the nets must think that acquiring simmons would make them better this season and given the circumstances i would disagree strongly w/ that reasoning
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 9 February 2022 17:50 (two years ago) link
I could easily see Harden mope on the court and not try for the whole second half of the season.
Or have a recurring hamstring injury . . . .
― removing bookmarks never felt so good (PBKR), Wednesday, 9 February 2022 17:54 (two years ago) link
The biggest impediment (acc to Windhorst) was Philly trying to do other things before the deadline to accommodate the Harden deal and they might not be able to get those done in time. I assume this means Harris.
― removing bookmarks never felt so good (PBKR), Wednesday, 9 February 2022 17:56 (two years ago) link
Which teams have money to sign harden outright this summer? Does he really want to win? If so he should probably suck it up and stay. Maybe the urge to get tf away from Kyrie is super strong.
― Spottie, Wednesday, 9 February 2022 17:58 (two years ago) link
saw some thing that said philly can clear cap room for harden in the offseason if necessary
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 9 February 2022 18:01 (two years ago) link
ppl are talking about the sixers dumping tobias harris into cap space in order to open up room to sign harden but that just feels like posturing to me if a simmons for harden sign and trade swap would be on the table which of course it would be
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 9 February 2022 18:04 (two years ago) link
― removing bookmarks never felt so good (PBKR), Wednesday, February 9, 2022 12:54 PM (one minute ago)
i don't think there's really any precedence for this in NBA history. the only time i can think of something like that happening was when vernon maxwell pretended to be injured in the 1995 playoffs after the rockets acquired clyde drexler and got banished from the team. but maxwell was a role player, not the second best player on the team and a previous MVP. for a player of harden's caliber to essentially throw a season while being on a contender as a way of pouting over still being on the team, i just don't think something like that has ever happened. kyrie's last year in boston? i don't think that's the same. i would call harden's bluff if i was the nets
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 9 February 2022 18:07 (two years ago) link
I haven't been a big fan of Tobias' performance, but trading him and not replacing him with an equivalent* player in order to do the Harden trade seems like a bit of a lateral move.
*equivalent = say 70% of Harris production for a much lower cost.
― removing bookmarks never felt so good (PBKR), Wednesday, 9 February 2022 18:10 (two years ago) link
Then I was just looking at Harden averaging 8 rpg and seeing that's more than Harris!
― removing bookmarks never felt so good (PBKR), Wednesday, 9 February 2022 18:13 (two years ago) link
if harden doesnt want to be there and you have a deal on the table thats really the best youre gonna get and this season is looking pretty unsalvageable anyway i can see why theyd do it now, i guess the big question if if they can pry another good player off philly if so it makes it a no brainer vs this summer when theyll have less leverage
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 9 February 2022 18:14 (two years ago) link
i agree there is a lack of precedent but i also think what we have seen continuously is that superstar players have gotten what they wanted over teams one way or another.
if the reporting on harden's mindset is true and he isn't traded, this is what i would expect: no way he plays hard for the rest of the regular season. he'll either stay hurt or play at half speed. the nets will end up on the wrong half of the bracket.
he would pull himself together enough to try in the playoffs but it will be a shaky team that's barely played together and they'll struggle to win more than a series based on what the matchups are. and then he'll leave.
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 9 February 2022 18:17 (two years ago) link
all of that may be true and i still don't think they would be better this season w/ simmons, so what's the point. if he wants to go to philly in the offseason trade him then.
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 9 February 2022 18:26 (two years ago) link
Durant's big-ass shoe really did ruin everything huh
― frogbs, Wednesday, 9 February 2022 18:29 (two years ago) link
xp yeah, i get it. i just don't think the nets can leverage harden in any meaningful way that benefits them.
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 9 February 2022 18:30 (two years ago) link
Yah I don’t think the nets hold all the cards here. Sign n trades are hard to pull off. I’m sure they’d rather get the sure thing right now.
― Spottie, Wednesday, 9 February 2022 18:36 (two years ago) link
Philly certainly doesn't hold all the cards, I just think their situation has been "baked in" for a while since we know Simmons isn't playing for them again, whereas the Harden stuff is what is volatile right now.
― removing bookmarks never felt so good (PBKR), Wednesday, 9 February 2022 18:56 (two years ago) link
Sign n trades are hard to pull off.
― Spottie, Wednesday, February 9, 2022 1:36 PM (twenty-three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
also have weird cap repercussions
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 9 February 2022 19:00 (two years ago) link
believe it has weird cap repercussions for the acquiring team but not the selling team. i could be wrong tho
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 9 February 2022 19:01 (two years ago) link
it definitely hard caps the acquiring team
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 9 February 2022 19:02 (two years ago) link
.@WindhorstESPN on Harden: “I can’t tell you how much James Harden wants this [trade]. You’ve gotta be very careful using the ‘Q’ word or saying whatever, but his actions over the past 10 days are basically a threat to the Nets."— Bryan Toporek (@btoporek) February 9, 2022
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 9 February 2022 19:06 (two years ago) link
given his history that's entirely believable
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 9 February 2022 19:07 (two years ago) link
harden wants to be back with morey who catered to him completely, which means hell be trading embiid around this time next year
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 9 February 2022 19:09 (two years ago) link
Better trade himself, too.
― removing bookmarks never felt so good (PBKR), Wednesday, 9 February 2022 19:11 (two years ago) link
lol #thisleague Managing these egos for more than half a season is a miracle unto itself
― Spottie, Wednesday, 9 February 2022 19:11 (two years ago) link
tbh it's a pretty massive failure on the nets part that they weren't able to manage the egos enough to even get two playoff runs out of this team when managing egos is the entire job description if you go all in on the super team model
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 9 February 2022 19:14 (two years ago) link
no one couldve guess that building a team around three weird malcontents would turn out this way, but im sure replacing one of them with another weird malcontent should solve the problem
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 9 February 2022 19:14 (two years ago) link
haha
tbf to the nets kyrie being an antivaxxer really fucked thing up for them, team prob wouldnt have melted down for another year at least
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 9 February 2022 19:15 (two years ago) link
i forget who said it on which podcast but someone (prob windhorst or someone at ESPN) was saying that the original genesis of this nets team is the bond between KD and kyrie and that their bond is still as strong as ever. so maybe that wins out, but if you're KD what's holding you to the nets if they trade for simmons and it's weird and doesn't work or you just don't like what the franchise is doing. why not force your way out (to the miami heat)
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 9 February 2022 19:17 (two years ago) link