yeah. but they did choose him over caruso and reportedly declined to acquire kyle lowry at the deadline last year bcuz they didn’t want to include THT
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 22 December 2021 17:01 (two years ago) link
yeah, those decisions aren't looking amazing
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 22 December 2021 17:04 (two years ago) link
yah i was thinking of the lowry one. they would be infinitely better with lowry instead of russ
― Spottie, Wednesday, 22 December 2021 17:48 (two years ago) link
yes
― i cannot help if you made yourself not funny (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 23 December 2021 03:31 (two years ago) link
The chart graphically shows that Dame has been having a horrible start to his season, up until a couple of games ago, AS ANYONE PAYING ATTENTION ALREADY KNEW. Amazing to me how the tweeted responses suddenly decide that Dame's worst ever run of games means he has never been anything but a pile-of-crap player. Hmmmph. Casuals.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 23 December 2021 03:46 (two years ago) link
dame's inability to get to the finals has put him in a space where nonfans don't understand his talent level
― i cannot help if you made yourself not funny (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 23 December 2021 03:52 (two years ago) link
not a lot of guys get to the finals tbf (mainly lebron and steph and, in the past, tim "b." duncan)
― Clay, Thursday, 23 December 2021 04:12 (two years ago) link
the b stands for bargain
― class project pat (m bison), Thursday, 23 December 2021 14:34 (two years ago) link
Cam Reddish dropped 34 on 6/10 from 3 in a really awful game
― Heez, Thursday, 23 December 2021 14:35 (two years ago) link
Keita Bates-Diop is the first player in Spurs franchise history to drop 30+ points on 100% shooting.30 PTS7 REB11-11 FG3-3 3POnly 4 other players have done it since 2000.— StatMuse (@statmuse) December 24, 2021
― Spottie, Friday, 24 December 2021 06:37 (two years ago) link
just how they drew it up
― class project pat (m bison), Friday, 24 December 2021 13:46 (two years ago) link
I would simply make all the shots
― k3vin k., Friday, 24 December 2021 14:10 (two years ago) link
That's box scorigami!per Bball-Ref that's the first 0-10-10 game in NBA history. https://t.co/gPc3EGVqUg pic.twitter.com/KErQtEEX05— Todd Whitehead (@CrumpledJumper) December 27, 2021
― lag∞n, Monday, 27 December 2021 03:11 (two years ago) link
Undrafted Heat rookie Omer Yurtseven with 16 points, 15 rebounds in a win
― i cannot help if you made yourself not funny (forksclovetofu), Monday, 27 December 2021 04:12 (two years ago) link
That 0-10-10 seems like something Dray or Rondo or Kidd woulda done at some point but i guess not
― Spottie, Monday, 27 December 2021 04:32 (two years ago) link
Youngest players in the NBA with a +/- better than +4.21) Evan Mobley: 20 yrs old, +5.12) Darius Garland: 21 yrs old, + 7.43) Jordan Poole: 22 yrs old, +5.44) Jarrett Allen: 23 yrs old, +5.45) Lauri Markkanen: 24 years old, +5.6— Brayden Todd (@BraydenBallin) December 26, 2021
― Spottie, Monday, 27 December 2021 04:47 (two years ago) link
p fucked up how the cavs just improv'd their way into a good team
― class project pat (m bison), Monday, 27 December 2021 05:24 (two years ago) link
nuggets net rating with jokic on the floor = +10.0nuggets net rating without jokic on the floor = -15.0
― k3vin k., Monday, 27 December 2021 11:28 (two years ago) link
its crazy how good he is and how bad the rest of that team is right now, not fair 2 judge with their #2 and #3 best players out, but damn. he shd be mvp again but unless they have a better record ppl will sleep on him bc he won it last year.
― class project pat (m bison), Monday, 27 December 2021 14:08 (two years ago) link
jokic having one of the best seasons ever, prob not one of the best thirds of seasons, but you know if he keeps it up
― lag∞n, Monday, 27 December 2021 16:03 (two years ago) link
giannis is putting up 28-12-6 as no worse than the second best defensive player in the NBA on a team that also hasn’t been healthy all year and has a better record in the tougher conference…
― J0rdan S., Monday, 27 December 2021 16:12 (two years ago) link
i have no problem with any of jokic, curry, kd, or giannis winning tbh
― class project pat (m bison), Monday, 27 December 2021 16:13 (two years ago) link
jokic has been definitively better IMHO and if he puts together an entire season like hes played so far he should absolutely win the MVP award but will prob not since he got it last year and there are other guys having great seasons too
― lag∞n, Monday, 27 December 2021 16:17 (two years ago) link
the problem w/ the argument of “he won last year and now he’s even better” is that it ignores that last year every single one of his competitors for the award got hurt and missed significant time and so he kind of won by default. also that giannis was shadowbanned from the race.
― J0rdan S., Monday, 27 December 2021 16:18 (two years ago) link
― J0rdan S., Monday, 27 December 2021 16:19 (two years ago) link
to be clear i think jokic should win it this year because hes been the best player
― lag∞n, Monday, 27 December 2021 16:19 (two years ago) link
giannis might be a better player but jokic has played better
― lag∞n, Monday, 27 December 2021 16:20 (two years ago) link
yeah see i think giannis is better and also has played better
― J0rdan S., Monday, 27 December 2021 16:25 (two years ago) link
statistically at least jokic is lapping the league, and is doing it with his two best teammates out, which i suspect giannis couldnt were you to trade him for jokic, however if you put joker on the bucks theyd score 200 points a game and still have excellent D, interestingly the team that would prob be better with giannis is the healthy nuggets
― lag∞n, Monday, 27 December 2021 16:29 (two years ago) link
kinda funny that the bucks finally got over the top by giannis playing bigger now hes back to being an exclusively face up player again why is center giannis a break glass in case of emergency situation idk, celtics had him pretty bottled up before pooping out cause half their guys are in safety and protocol, and they didnt even have any players active who match up with him, marcus smart was guarding him half the time, so i think giannis still has the same questions about his game as always, unless you get him rolling to the basket then hes unstoppable lol
― lag∞n, Monday, 27 December 2021 16:38 (two years ago) link
you could argue that jokic is statistically lapping the league *offensively* which btw i wouldn’t agree with but there’s the other side of the floor where giannis is on a completely different level, which is no shade at jokic who is def better on defense this year but giannis is capable of things on the defensive end that nobody else in the NBA can match & he does it every night. he has an ability to physically overwhelm games that puts him above everyone for me
― J0rdan S., Monday, 27 December 2021 16:46 (two years ago) link
we’ll see if a team gets the bucks in the playoffs this year bcuz giannis still isn’t a great shooter, completely possible. in the regular season it doesn’t really matter tho. he also might be shaq in an olympic athlete’s body who at the end of the day can’t be stopped, excited to find out
― J0rdan S., Monday, 27 December 2021 16:48 (two years ago) link
giannis is a truly game changing defender in a way you can prob only say about dray at this point, jokic has just been so good offensively tho, in fact hes been so good theres prob no chance he keeps it up all year which makes the convo at least re the mvp moot, but were he to keep it up all year i think he should be awarded for having one of the alltime great offensive seasons, because individual offense is better than individual defense
― lag∞n, Monday, 27 December 2021 16:52 (two years ago) link
bucks defense hasnt actually been great this year fwiw, and theyre stacked with good to great defenders, so if were talking reg seas production not sure the defense can put giannis over the top rn
― lag∞n, Monday, 27 December 2021 16:57 (two years ago) link
tho i suspect they will round into form before too long
― lag∞n, Monday, 27 December 2021 16:58 (two years ago) link
anyway the mvp dumb but i do think joker deserves kudos and big ups for absolutely destroying the league under adverse circumstances
― lag∞n, Monday, 27 December 2021 17:00 (two years ago) link
well he’ll be all nba first team center w/o a second of debate anywhere
― J0rdan S., Monday, 27 December 2021 17:02 (two years ago) link
really the only question about first team this year will be who is the other guard who makes it in. four spots are already completely locked up
― J0rdan S., Monday, 27 December 2021 17:04 (two years ago) link
luka trae booker... not sure who else, lot of season left tho
― lag∞n, Monday, 27 December 2021 17:09 (two years ago) link
A lot of bucks players have been out too. Haven’t had their starting center or 2guard basically all season.
― Spottie, Monday, 27 December 2021 17:30 (two years ago) link
derozan might be the leader at this point, even tho he’s clearly a SF in the bulls line up i think ppl could fudge it and call him a SG if they wanted. maybe lavine as well tho he’s not even been the best player on his team so that would be tough. strictly statistically speaking, harden has a real case. maybe donovan mitchell too. as natasha benningfield said, the rest is still unwritten
― J0rdan S., Monday, 27 December 2021 17:34 (two years ago) link
i was listening to the recent zach lowe pod w/ arnovitz and they were talking about how much of atlanta’s defensive problems are related to trae, it makes me feel like he can’t really be a first team player at this point tho if he puts up these offensive numbers all year he’ll make one of the three teams
― J0rdan S., Monday, 27 December 2021 17:37 (two years ago) link
Lol harden hell no
― Spottie, Monday, 27 December 2021 17:41 (two years ago) link
Derozan and Lavine are both averaging 26/5/4 which is pretty wild. Derozan gets to the line a little more but Lavine is a 40% 3 point shooter
― Spottie, Monday, 27 December 2021 17:47 (two years ago) link
harden's shooting numbers are down and he doesn't really pass the eye test based on what we imagine him to be but he's still putting up 21-8-10. and in december that's up to 23-8-11.
― J0rdan S., Monday, 27 December 2021 17:48 (two years ago) link
He just hasn’t been an all nba first team player. The eye test is important. He could get there by the end of the year.
― Spottie, Monday, 27 December 2021 17:56 (two years ago) link
the answer is booker imo
― class project pat (m bison), Monday, 27 December 2021 18:20 (two years ago) link
you could argue that jokic is statistically lapping the league *offensively* which btw i wouldn’t agree with
what stats are u looking at?
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 28 December 2021 00:14 (two years ago) link
i understand what the stats say. but PER and other efficiency and/or advanced numbers are not the omniscient narrators of basketball. i think you could very reasonably argue that giannis is the most dominant offensive player in the NBA. i think you could also argue that raw scoring & shooting is so much more important than any other facet of basketball that, actually, KD or steph are better offensive players than jokic. you could of course quite reasonably argue that jokic is the best offensive player. but to act like there’s no discussion to be had because of PER & other type stats — i don’t agree with that.
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 28 December 2021 00:21 (two years ago) link
ok I mean I can see the argument that he’s not the best player or even having the best season I was just wondering what you meant by that because you specifically said “statistically”
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 28 December 2021 00:31 (two years ago) link