2021 nba offseason draft free agency etc

DeMar DeRozan is finalizing a three-year, $85 million-plus deal to join the Chicago Bulls, sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) August 3, 2021

that was unexpected

The Bulls are sending a future first-round pick that will convey no sooner than 2025, source tells ESPN. The Bulls will also send a 2022 second-round pick via the Lakers and Bulls' own 2025 second-round pick, source tells ESPN.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) August 3, 2021

It’s too much money for derozan but they’re not giving up much in assets

they’re now out three firsts for nikola vucevic and demar derozan, couldn’t be me

A protected first for a guy who averaged 22-4-7 last year actually isn’t much

a protected first and $85 million for 32 year old demar derozan is a lot, i'm not being convinced of otherwise

Ball, Lavine, derozan, Williams, Vooch

i liked derozan as a sixth man for someone but can't imagine they're paying him $27m per year to not start, so....

should be a playoff team at least?

they're gonna have zero chance to stop anyone

nets
bucks

sixers
hawks
heat

boston
knicks
pacers
bulls
hornets

wizards
raptors

they feel comfortably in the top 10 to me so that's at least a play in game but the ceiling of all these moves to me is still pretty low

Free agent guard Kendrick Nunn has agreed to a two-year deal with the Los Angeles Lakers, source tells ESPN. Deal includes a player option. Nunn turned down significantly more money to chase a title with the Lakers.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) August 3, 2021

they got some guys to take the pressure off lebron playing 38 mpg in the reg season so thats nice

The Nunn contract is sus but in a “GMs don’t want to deal with him” kind of way

Am with Jord on DeRozan, tho I am biased to view any Bulls move as shitty

well woj did say nunn turned down “significantly more money” tho who knows what that means xp

Woj tweets what agents tell him to some degree

Waiting game with Collins
By Sam Amick
August 3, 2021 at 3:38 pm

It appears we have a John Collins waiting game unfolding in Atlanta.

As has been reported elsewhere, the Hawks have a very healthy offer out to their restricted free agent that has yet to be accepted. Per sources with knowledge of the situation, it’s for five years and $125 million.

So, why hasn’t Collins agreed to re-sign yet? Because as was the case last offseason, when he turned down a $90 million extension and wasn’t shy about the fact that he saw himself as a maximum salary player, he clearly sees his value differently than the Hawks.

Again.

Color me confused.

This deal, if accepted, would not only be substantially more than what he was offered previously but would be the biggest yet on the 2021 free-agency market from a lump sum standpoint (Chris Paul’s $120 million deal with Phoenix would be second). In terms of average annual salary, the $25 million figure would be the third-highest (behind Paul’s $30 million and Kyle Lowry’s $30 million with Miami; Utah’s Mike Conley would be right behind Collins at $24.1 million).

That’s some big-time cheddar for a player who averaged 17.6 points and 7.4 rebounds per game in the regular season, 13.8 points and 9.5 rebounds in the playoffs and -- to his credit -- was a pivotal piece of the team that shocked us all by getting to the East finals. It’s nowhere near the max deal that Trae Young finalized on Monday night, or that Collins himself could receive, but it’s still very substantial.

What’s more, it remains to be seen where he might be able to get an offer sheet that’s any bigger. According to our in-house capologist, Danny Leroux, only Oklahoma City and San Antonio still have more than $20 million available in cap space. There also are no indications that either team is planning to add Collins. The Hawks, sources say, want to keep Collins and aren’t interested in sign-and-trade options at this time.

So ... we wait.

OKC should offer him 4/80 and see if he accepts it for Galaxy brain reasons

5/125 is probably about right?

spurs used up their cap space trading derozan, so its literally just okc now

whats schroeder gonna do?

fire his agent

feel like he shd fire himself but u know what they say u cant fire the players

apparently drummond signed with the 76ers one year vet minimum.

hasnt embiid made a habit of flaming him every chance he gets?

thats correct lol

drummond signing for the vet minimum, javale riding the bench for team USA, everyone trying to figure out how the nets might be able to dump deandre... a lukewarm summer for the matt armstrong all stars. alex len got a 2/7.5 deal from the kings tho so we'll put that in the W column

i’m visiting my parents who are on vacation and i’m going to choose to pretend that demar derozan didn’t just get like 30 million a year

i will deal with this reality sometime tbd in the future

Free agent C Hassan Whiteside has agreed to a deal with the Utah Jazz, @excelbasketball agent Sean Kennedy tells ESPN.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) August 4, 2021

seems like the opposite of what the jazz need but i don't understand the nba anymore has been the lesson of the last couple days

teams just reaching in the bowl and scooping out some players

whiteside is like gobert if he wasn’t good so i guess that’s something

they need a backup without favours around. i guess they dumped favours to sign gay and will pick up whiteside on the cheap

jazz should probably have tried to get a stretch 4/5 like a patrick patterson type

they also drafted a center in the first round last year who to my knowledge has basically never played

*coughs* rudy gay is a stretch five in small ball lineups

looks like Collins finally accepted the 5/$125

they also drafted a center in the first round last year who to my knowledge has basically never played

drummond signing for the vet minimum, javale riding the bench for team USA, everyone trying to figure out how the nets might be able to dump deandre... a lukewarm summer for the matt armstrong all stars. alex len got a 2/7.5 deal from the kings tho so we'll put that in the W column

kemba to the knicks

like to hear that!

some i may have missed:

dinwiddie - s&t to wizards 3/62
rudy gay - 2/12 jazz
sga - extended 5/172
blake - one year minimum to stay nets
richaun - 4/55 stay kings
javale - 1/5 suns
pattty - 2/12 nets
norm powell - 5/90 stay blazers
goat shooter snell 1 year to blazers
theiss - 4/36 to rockets
zeller - 1 to pdx
trae - extendo 5/207

most interesting players left:

schroeder
oubre
markannen
reggie
dannie green
j hart
kawhi(?)

oladipo to the heat for one year on the minimum. apparently his ppl think he could be back by jan/february, the heat seem to think it will be more like march. in any event the primary motivation of the deal appears to be so that the heat keep his bird rights & can exceed the cap to re-sign him next season if they want to

pretty great for the hawks that trae didn’t ask for a player option on his extension

Watching Josh primo in summer league and he looks great but also a lot like the other excellent young guards they already have

spurs twitter is fighting over the notion that the spurs are planning to trade for ben simmons

(one of those guards would be on the move to get simmons obv)

pretty great for the hawks that trae didn’t ask for a player option on his extension

― J0rdan S., Wednesday, August 4, 2021 4:34 PM (fifty-three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

he seems like the kinda guy that wants to stay in one place for a long time? projecting a bit but theyve also already shown they can build a competent team around him, things looking up in atlanta.