yeah this is a cool matchup, mostly homegrown teams with interesting and fun players, chance for both giannis and cp3 to get over the hump, neither team has been to the finals for a long time
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 6 July 2021 02:33 (three years ago) link
tbh i dont actually find the bucks players to be fun but thats ok they have other good qualities
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 6 July 2021 02:34 (three years ago) link
this series has some really interesting matchups that should be fun to track--lopez/ayton, holiday/booker, bridges/whichever buck he ends up guarding. there's no reason for the bucks to try their switching defense at least initially so ayton needs to hold his own or better against lopez and make sure brook is somewhat neutralized as a rim protector. another thing that's interesting is pj tucker does not really have anything useful to do in this series, and bobby portis will probably have to go back to spot minutes.
basically i don't see a ton of matchup advantages for the bucks and the suns should more or less be able to play their game on offense. there are ways you can talk yourself into the bucks having the talent advantage but i have no reason to think their best 3 guys will put together enough good performances to win the series. i'm going to say suns in 7 because i think most of these games will be close and competitive.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 6 July 2021 02:36 (three years ago) link
wonder if we might see some ayton on giannis
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 6 July 2021 02:37 (three years ago) link
i think more likely crowder draws that assignment to better cut off driving lanes wd be my guess, otherwise youve got crowder on lopez which could be problems but idk
― class project pat (m bison), Tuesday, 6 July 2021 02:38 (three years ago) link
my other guess is tucker gets the "guard book" assignment so that middleton is more focused on buckets
― class project pat (m bison), Tuesday, 6 July 2021 02:39 (three years ago) link
i guess "who guard giannis" is an interesting question--my thought was bridges would get first crack but i didn't see the two regular season games.
i think booker would slice tucker up but maybe the thought would be just be a brick wall and turn him into a jump shooter and make their offense more stagnant.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 6 July 2021 02:43 (three years ago) link
Honestly you should have Connaughton on Booker a lot. He’s not the world’s greatest defender but those other guys just are too slow and big.
― Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 6 July 2021 03:31 (three years ago) link
yeah i agree with that, would try him first over pj
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 6 July 2021 03:41 (three years ago) link
So I looked back at the ILH predictions from 2012 onward & tallied the votes for each team. Track record is about 5 right / 4 wrong so far.
2012: Thunder 19 - 5 (wrong)2013: Spurs 13 - 9 (wrong)2014: Spurs 24 - 10 (right)2015: GSW 27 - 9 (right)2016: GSW 25 - 5 (wrong)2017: GSW 12 - 8 (right)2018: GSW 18 - 3 (right)2019: GSW 21 - 5 (wrong)2020: Lakers 17 - 8 (right)
2021: Suns 13 - 7 ...
― that's not my post, Tuesday, 6 July 2021 04:20 (three years ago) link
that 2012 prediction margin is crazy. we have collectively picked lebron to win a title...once, last year
― symsymsym, Tuesday, 6 July 2021 04:22 (three years ago) link
lol why did we pick okc by so much, were we more mad at the heatles than usual?
― Clay, Tuesday, 6 July 2021 04:52 (three years ago) link
we went 26-9 for the mavs in 2011, I appear to have been the idiot who picked heat in six
― symsymsym, Tuesday, 6 July 2021 06:12 (three years ago) link
in other words we've never picked the eastern conference. even the presence of LeBron did not overcome that bias
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Tuesday, 6 July 2021 17:38 (three years ago) link
Giannis Antetokounmpo has been upgraded from doubtful to questionable ahead of Bucks-Suns Game 1 of the NBA Finals. pic.twitter.com/KhPLX70Dyu— ClutchPoints (@ClutchPointsApp) July 6, 2021
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 6 July 2021 17:50 (three years ago) link
hes gonna play isnt he
― pure rim rest (Spottie), Tuesday, 6 July 2021 18:21 (three years ago) link
seems like
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 6 July 2021 18:27 (three years ago) link
now a GTD
Reporting with @Malika_Andrews: Milwaukee’s Giannis Antetokounmpo has continued around-the-clock treatment on his left knee with hopes of becoming cleared to play Game 1 of the Finals vs. Phoenix tonight. There’s expected to be a game-time decision on his availability.— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) July 6, 2021
― pure rim rest (Spottie), Tuesday, 6 July 2021 18:35 (three years ago) link
i didn't get a chance to vote but i think i would've gone suns in 7. i want to lean towards the bucks here, it just kinda feels like their year to me despite how bumpy the road has been, but it's hard to figure what giannis effectiveness is going to be and the suns prob have enough scoring between cp3 and booker to overcome that. i also think if this goes to 7 that the bucks are gonna have a struggle trying to win in phoenix in that kind of environment, i don't trust what they're going to get on offense
that said, i did think the suns showed signs of mortality vs the clippers. booker was pretty inefficient, bridges was blah. the bucks have legit size to throw at ayton. they can also have games where they shoot the lights out, which will stretch the suns pretty thin. crowder turned into a pumpkin in the finals last year after a huge playoffs. i think this is a very winnable series for the bucks even if giannis isn't healthy -- maybe more so if he doesn't play at all, we'll have to see what he gives them once he steps on the floor
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 6 July 2021 18:36 (three years ago) link
now a GTD🐦[Reporting with @Malika_Andrews🕸: Milwaukee’s Giannis Antetokounmpo has continued around-the-clock treatment on his left knee with hopes of becoming cleared to play Game 1 of the Finals vs. Phoenix tonight. There’s expected to be a game-time decision on his availability.— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) July 6, 2021🕸]🐦
― Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 6 July 2021 18:48 (three years ago) link
whenever a player improves from "doubtful" to "questionable" on game day they pretty always wind up playing so I'd be surprised if he weren't out there. that said, centering your offense around Giannis at 80% feels like a surefire way to lose this game, especially since they seem to play so much better w/ Jrue as the primary ball handler. he isn't gonna be able to take on 3 defenders like he normally does and the Suns will be fouling him and pressuring him to shoot which is how the Bucks get themselves into a hole early in games. and if he's clearly hobbled I doubt Bud will take him out either. of course if they leave him near the paint for lob plays & use him mostly for his defense and ability in transition I think it'll be fine
― frogbs, Tuesday, 6 July 2021 19:08 (three years ago) link
we'll know in the first ten minutes what he can do and that should certainly start to answer a lot of questions for the series.
― burly crafty woodsman (James Harden) vs tall ethereal phantom (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 6 July 2021 19:54 (three years ago) link
Watching the warmups, he’s gonna play
― frogbs, Tuesday, 6 July 2021 23:19 (three years ago) link
there it is
Giannis is a go for Game 1 of the NBA Finals, source tells ESPN.— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) July 7, 2021
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 July 2021 00:31 (three years ago) link
I just drop knowledge on ILH all the time
― Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 7 July 2021 00:39 (three years ago) link
thanks matt, what would we do without you
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 7 July 2021 00:41 (three years ago) link
incredible that the suns arena's naming rights are currently not spoken for
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 7 July 2021 01:00 (three years ago) link
coach bud pregame: "compete compete compete. have some fun, play some basketball"
can't argue with any of that
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 7 July 2021 01:10 (three years ago) link
Bucks in 6 here we go baby
― frogbs, Wednesday, 7 July 2021 01:11 (three years ago) link
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, July 6, 2021 9:00 PM (twelve minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
it will always be talking stick resort hotel casino arena to me
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 July 2021 01:13 (three years ago) link
sick tip by bridges
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 July 2021 01:17 (three years ago) link
i genuinely did not think the bucks would come out switching on defense. this isn't going to work.
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 7 July 2021 01:27 (three years ago) link
last two possessions have ended with holiday on ayton and lopez on booker. that does not seem ideal.
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 7 July 2021 01:28 (three years ago) link
yeah was thinking the same
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 July 2021 01:29 (three years ago) link
this game is pretty sweet, excellent shot of some pheonix bros just now
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 July 2021 01:31 (three years ago) link
― lag∞n, Tuesday, July 6, 2021 9:31 PM (three seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink
yeah it’s like a college game, it’s fuckin sick
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 7 July 2021 01:32 (three years ago) link
suns in 4
suns fanbase has been a sleeping giant for years, with a good team those people will watch some basketball and absolutely rage
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 7 July 2021 01:34 (three years ago) link
Can’t get over how surreal it is seeing Milwaukee here
― frogbs, Wednesday, 7 July 2021 01:40 (three years ago) link
Really good game so far
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 7 July 2021 01:47 (three years ago) link
Also surreal to see Badgers hero Frank the Tank Kaminsky getting finals minutes
― frogbs, Wednesday, 7 July 2021 01:48 (three years ago) link
yeah this has been great xp
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 7 July 2021 01:48 (three years ago) link
suns having good luck getting lopez to switch onto the guards
― circles, Wednesday, 7 July 2021 01:49 (three years ago) link
not frank kaminsky getting finals minutes
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 7 July 2021 01:49 (three years ago) link
― circles, Tuesday, July 6, 2021 9:49 PM (thirty-six seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink
you can see booker's eyes doing the looney tunes saucers thing when he has lopez in an iso
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 7 July 2021 01:51 (three years ago) link
trying to remember the last finals where one of the teams was not a team i was at least kinda pissed at and i'm not sure it's ever happened before!
― Clay, Wednesday, 7 July 2021 02:01 (three years ago) link
lol
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 July 2021 02:01 (three years ago) link
It is a surprisingly low bullshit finals
― burly crafty woodsman (James Harden) vs tall ethereal phantom (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 7 July 2021 02:03 (three years ago) link
Lol at the inevitable “Knuck if you Buck” music cue
― burly crafty woodsman (James Harden) vs tall ethereal phantom (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 7 July 2021 02:06 (three years ago) link
first warriors/cavs showdown is a maybe and lebron was on a redemption tour but those cavs teams were hard to love and there was def some latent THIS guy again stuff w/r/t lebron xp
― Clay, Wednesday, 7 July 2021 02:06 (three years ago) link
lol just remembered CP3 saying "everyone expects him to miss" when Giannis is at the line
― Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 22 July 2021 00:30 (three years ago) link
Yeah I think every fanbase is like that. It's usually an unathletic white guy they latch into tho.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Dudley#2010_Oregon_gubernatorial_campaign
dudley lost -- as a republican in oregon in 2010! -- by 1.5%. every subsequent republican has lost by 6+ points. sports, man
― Clay, Thursday, 22 July 2021 01:11 (three years ago) link
Alex Caruso seems like the quintessential example of that
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 22 July 2021 01:15 (three years ago) link
thats ASSISTANT MANAGER caruso to you, pal
― class project pat (m bison), Thursday, 22 July 2021 01:16 (three years ago) link
caruso's defense is probably good enough for him to rise above that categorization
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 22 July 2021 01:25 (three years ago) link
you think he could be manager? its a lot of responsibility
― class project pat (m bison), Thursday, 22 July 2021 01:42 (three years ago) link
maybe like night manager, not sure he's ready for peak hours
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 22 July 2021 01:51 (three years ago) link
My nickname for him is “The Accountant”
― Yours in Sorrow, A Schoolboy: (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 22 July 2021 02:00 (three years ago) link
Scalabrine is the ne plus ultra imo
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 22 July 2021 04:41 (three years ago) link
thats ASSISTANT MANAGER caruso to you, pallmao
― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 22 July 2021 09:02 (three years ago) link
One interesting thing you can see in the stats -- Giannis really did just stop shooting threes. 31 attempts against the Nets, 15 (in four games) against the Hawks, just 8 against the Suns.
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 22 July 2021 15:44 (three years ago) link
It felt like the hawks were able to bottle him up and frustrate him way more. I mean he was just amazing in these finals
― Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 22 July 2021 17:55 (three years ago) link
ok I'm watching Budenholzer speak at the parade and I genuinely feel good for the guy. whether you think he deserves this or not you cannot deny the man was the most stressed person on the court day in and day out, it's nice to see him relaxed and actually smiling
― frogbs, Thursday, 22 July 2021 17:57 (three years ago) link
I think he deserves it! The thing he has been criticized again and again for in the playoffs is blind devotion to his plan and inability to adjust. I think he has absolutely showed this year that he's able to see what's not working and change it mid-series.
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 22 July 2021 18:06 (three years ago) link
he was pretty good after that horrific Game 5 loss to the Nets. admittedly a lot of the criticism of him was the result of his team shooting 9 points worse from 3 point range than they did in the regular season
― frogbs, Thursday, 22 July 2021 18:19 (three years ago) link
he coached a great series, and there's a little bit of "yeah it's about time you coach a great series" but that doesn't take away much imo. i'm happy that he got to finish the job after starting this team on the right path following the kidd years. he seems like a good dude and has accomplished a lot while being someone that guys seem to be really happy playing for.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 22 July 2021 18:21 (three years ago) link
https://www.theringer.com/2021/7/21/22585355/giannis-antetokounmpo-book-excerpt-the-improbable-rise
this is a great article about Giannis & Kidd. I guess I'm going to have to buy this book. Kidd seems like a genuine psychopath though, this is the sort of dumb shit awful NFL coaches do
Knight searches for the right words. “I don’t want to sound negative,” he says. Knight explains some of Kidd’s methods, such as how Kidd would embarrass the culprit of an error by making everyone but that person run sprints for his mistake. “He just had his way of getting his point across,” Knight says.Little things were made to be a big deal: At one point center Thon Maker didn’t have an iPhone, messing up the team’s blue-bubble iPhone group chat. Kidd was upset about it and made the team run because Kidd felt that Maker not getting an iPhone was an example of the team not being united.
Little things were made to be a big deal: At one point center Thon Maker didn’t have an iPhone, messing up the team’s blue-bubble iPhone group chat. Kidd was upset about it and made the team run because Kidd felt that Maker not getting an iPhone was an example of the team not being united.
― frogbs, Thursday, 22 July 2021 19:19 (three years ago) link
good lord kidd belongs in the hague
― class project pat (m bison), Thursday, 22 July 2021 19:21 (three years ago) link
I never understood how his domestic-abusing ass ever got a coaching job to begin with
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 22 July 2021 20:29 (three years ago) link
pic.twitter.com/pLn1TEfz3U— Moneybagg Yo(hannes) 🇪🇷 (@AronYohannes) July 22, 2021
on cue
― class project pat (m bison), Thursday, 22 July 2021 22:19 (three years ago) link
The crazy thing about that Kidd article is they have all those sources who say he’s a psychopath but also a basketball genius
― Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 24 July 2021 16:05 (three years ago) link
Both things are probably true but that doesn’t make you a good HC - knowing what your players are good at, and more importantly, knowing what they are NOT good at, is key
― frogbs, Saturday, 24 July 2021 16:53 (three years ago) link
apparently my Fitbit thought I was jogging for 3 hours
https://i.imgur.com/8ZYMXXg.jpg
― frogbs, Monday, 26 July 2021 03:36 (three years ago) link
ball is intense activity
― Yours in Sorrow, A Schoolboy: (forksclovetofu), Monday, 26 July 2021 03:46 (three years ago) link
lol it thinks I burned 5500 calories that day
― frogbs, Monday, 26 July 2021 03:49 (three years ago) link
frogbsanteteokounmpo
― making splashes at Dan Flashes (Neanderthal), Monday, 26 July 2021 05:26 (three years ago) link