if the suns win they'll go down as the worst title winner in like 30 years
I don't really get this, by what metrics could you prove this claim ?
The 04 pistons have fewer big names, the 11 mavs have comparable levels of star power.
The injuries made the suns' path much easier than it would have been of course, but they're still the only team to ever beat Lebron in the first round (and the first team to beat him before the finals since...2010), they swept this year's MVP's team, they beat a clippers team that was good enough to beat the league's top seed. I'm sure there have been championship teams in the last 30-40 years who had easier paths to the finals
― symsymsym, Saturday, 3 July 2021 06:17 (four years ago)
the 2011 mavs beat the young thunder (coming off a 55-win regular season) and a kobe and pau lakers team before beating the heat. the ‘04 pistons were one of the best defenses ever.
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 3 July 2021 13:58 (four years ago)
suns are worse than that mavs team but not by that much
― ciderpress, Saturday, 3 July 2021 14:01 (four years ago)
kind of want to say the suns have more talent than the mavs champ team except that no one could do anything with dirk that year and the suns dont have anyone balling at nearly that high of a level
― lag∞n, Saturday, 3 July 2021 14:16 (four years ago)
the 2011 mavs beat the young thunder (coming off a 55-win regular season) and a kobe and pau lakers team before beating the heat.
― call all destroyer, Saturday, July 3, 2021 9:58 AM (eighteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
as evidenced by the quality of the teams they beat
― lag∞n, Saturday, 3 July 2021 14:17 (four years ago)
that pistons team was just dominant on defense in a way they wont let you be anymore and then on offense they were deep with quality guys
― lag∞n, Saturday, 3 July 2021 14:50 (four years ago)
the game scores from this series are amazing, has anyone else ever clinched a series scoring 69 points: https://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/2004-nba-eastern-conference-finals-pistons-vs-pacers.html
― symsymsym, Saturday, 3 July 2021 16:32 (four years ago)
suns are better than the 06 heat with old shaq lol
― symsymsym, Saturday, 3 July 2021 16:33 (four years ago)
DET shooting 37% from the field in that series, ffs
xp
― class project pat (m bison), Saturday, 3 July 2021 16:33 (four years ago)
no I just think it's impossible to meaningfully compare team quality or who had the hardest/easiest path across eras
― symsymsym, Saturday, 3 July 2021 16:34 (four years ago)
lol yeah that was the game seveniest game of all time
― ciderpress, Saturday, 3 July 2021 16:51 (four years ago)
I think I remember Tayshaun blocking Reggie to clinch the series, but it actually happened in game 2. Still saved the series for the Pistons I guess, who were down 1-0
― symsymsym, Saturday, 3 July 2021 16:56 (four years ago)
Trae starting tonight
guessing he's gonna score at least 40. might be on 50 attempts but he's gonna heroball the hell out of this game
― frogbs, Saturday, 3 July 2021 22:47 (four years ago)
that's what he wants you to think
― ciderpress, Saturday, 3 July 2021 23:26 (four years ago)
i think he might shoot some traes (three pointers)
― lag∞n, Saturday, 3 July 2021 23:42 (four years ago)
he will do this
― ciderpress, Saturday, 3 July 2021 23:44 (four years ago)
Bucks sure are turning it over a lot
― frogbs, Sunday, 4 July 2021 01:27 (four years ago)
awkward brook is back tonight
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 4 July 2021 01:33 (four years ago)
Well both teams are playing like shit but I feel like Middleton and Lopez are not having another half like that
― frogbs, Sunday, 4 July 2021 01:45 (four years ago)
Seriously why do the Bucks keep doing that thing where they get up 10 then spend the rest of the game jacking up bad 3s. Hawks are playing like garbage put em away
― frogbs, Sunday, 4 July 2021 01:47 (four years ago)
I remain a basketball noob, but between this game and and the last Clippers-Suns game, the difference in chemistry and technical ability seems to be night and day.
― Van Horn Street, Sunday, 4 July 2021 01:53 (four years ago)
Ok time for Middleton to turn it on
― frogbs, Sunday, 4 July 2021 01:56 (four years ago)
Weeeeeeeeeeeew
― frogbs, Sunday, 4 July 2021 02:00 (four years ago)
both teams suddenly draining threes an unexpected development
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 4 July 2021 02:02 (four years ago)
Never mind take as many 3s as you like boys
― frogbs, Sunday, 4 July 2021 02:03 (four years ago)
It’s so weird how Middleton just suddenly becomes Michael Jordan for a 5 minute stretch
― frogbs, Sunday, 4 July 2021 02:05 (four years ago)
he looks like he's on fire in nba jam when he gets like that... did any of those 23 points in that quarter even touch the rim?
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Sunday, 4 July 2021 02:23 (four years ago)
kris quarter
― lag∞n, Sunday, 4 July 2021 02:23 (four years ago)
hope giannis will be good for the finals!
― Clay, Sunday, 4 July 2021 02:25 (four years ago)
tense and nervous, can't relax
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 4 July 2021 02:25 (four years ago)
Still not relaxing until the Hawks miss a few
― frogbs, Sunday, 4 July 2021 02:29 (four years ago)
don't play not to lose bucks
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 4 July 2021 02:32 (four years ago)
Sheesh
― frogbs, Sunday, 4 July 2021 02:33 (four years ago)
Hawks cannot miss right now
― frogbs, Sunday, 4 July 2021 02:35 (four years ago)
it's not fun without a sweat
― Clay, Sunday, 4 July 2021 02:36 (four years ago)
Cam Reddish thinks he's Khris Middleton or something, the gall
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Sunday, 4 July 2021 02:39 (four years ago)
The hawks have so many good players
― Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 4 July 2021 02:39 (four years ago)
Fuuuuck this
― frogbs, Sunday, 4 July 2021 02:40 (four years ago)
Bucks at sea
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 4 July 2021 02:44 (four years ago)
This is so frustrating all we had to do was keep playing our game
yeah it seemed like a bad sign when coach bud stuck with his rotation at the end of the 3rd q and took out the lineup that was annihilating them
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Sunday, 4 July 2021 02:45 (four years ago)
that turnover by middleton was an extremely unforced error, he dribbled into falling out of bounds. pressure getting to em
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Sunday, 4 July 2021 02:46 (four years ago)
Hawks just need to miss a few shots
― frogbs, Sunday, 4 July 2021 02:47 (four years ago)
thank the goddamn lord for brook lopez
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 4 July 2021 02:50 (four years ago)
THERE HE IS
― frogbs, Sunday, 4 July 2021 02:51 (four years ago)
bucks should be thanking the lord that trae young isn't right, hawks made that comeback with him missing a million shots
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Sunday, 4 July 2021 02:51 (four years ago)
PJ!!!!!!!
― frogbs, Sunday, 4 July 2021 02:53 (four years ago)
PJ's three can only be described as merciless
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 4 July 2021 02:54 (four years ago)
Yeah if Trae sat this would’ve been a different game
― frogbs, Sunday, 4 July 2021 02:54 (four years ago)
this series is a good example of the difference between the eastern and western conferences and chris paul never having reached the conference finals until a few years ago
― k3vin k., Sunday, 4 July 2021 02:54 (four years ago)