2021 nba offseason draft free agency etc

im saying

says everyone except cuban hates bob voulgaris

the podcast is rly good. chandler pardons having decision making power is incredible

i’ve realized one of the most important qualifications you can have as an aspiring NBA GM is being named donnie

from the pod

Luka yelled at Carlisle in the middle of a game once “who’s in charge, you or Bob?”

— Azaz (@AzazNYK) June 17, 2021

cuban being a meddling owner has always been pretty much implicit

yeah

feed me the drama I need it

Mark Cuban hired a Twitter goon who forced out a top 5 coach. To me this is not a great situation

haven’t listened to the lowe pod yet but my impression is that it was the tension with luka that got carlisle to leave, the haralabob thing seems related and not great but not in a direct way maybe

theres a lot we dont know about how this all went down and i would like to know it

the atheltic:

After 16 years as the head of the Dallas Mavericks’ front office, from Dirk Nowitzki’s one-of-a-kind run to the Luka Doncic era that has shown so much similar promise, Nelson had begun to wonder if he was truly in charge of the team’s roster or coaching staff anymore. But when he relayed these fears to owner Mark Cuban, sharing his growing belief that Haralabos Voulgaris, the former professional gambler who served as the team’s director of quantitative research and development, was encroaching on his influence over personnel moves and strategy, the course correction that he’d never hoped for arrived.

Nelson had wanted Voulgaris to stay in his proverbial lane, to avoid overstepping the bounds of his role and focus on being a trusted adviser to Cuban whose analytics-based views would always be taken into account. Dallas would have preferred to project stability ahead of a crucial summer in which Doncic was eligible for a supermax contract extension he indicated a desire to sign. Instead, within the front office, there was turmoil and dysfunction.

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As one rival team executive shared Wednesday, there were times when talking to the Mavericks about trade possibilities meant inevitable confusion. Nelson would paint one picture, so to speak, discussing the possible pieces and players involved in an attempt to get a deal done. But Voulgaris, who this rival executive said had talked to his team simultaneously about a particular deal, would tell a different story. And because Voulgaris was widely known to have a direct line to Cuban, this dynamic was seen by Nelson as damaging to his credibility. When asked over the phone about this assertion on Wednesday, Cuban refuted the idea that Voulgaris had negatively impacted the process.

would be funny if it turns out haralabob nuked the entire mavs org

hey fellows I’ve had a busy few days is anything interesting or dare I hope fabulously dramatic happening in the nba

the National Bdrama Association

steve kerr is the third longest tenured coach in the NBA

wow

The Celtics are trading Kemba Walker, the No. 16 overall pick in the 2021 draft and a 2025 second-round draft pick to Oklahoma City for Al Horford, Moses Brown and a 2023 second-round pick, sources tell ESPN.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) June 18, 2021

horf back lol

no doubt okc will rehab kemba and get more picks back for him in a year

celtics have 4 centers

Weird trade. Is that just to trade the Kemba contract for the shorter Horford contract?

might just be mostly honoring kembas trade request, also they love horf and yeah shorter contract

also moses brown lit the celtics up when they played late last year perhaps a danger of coach turned gm idk hes also that weird bball biomechanics twitter guys big success story lol

hopefully this will be the first step in moving past the tristan thompson era

deep cap analytics

You can't have this be part of the calculation on what is a good contract for Fournier and if he returns now, but if they don't re-sign him I'll be annoyed because had they not traded for him, this trade would have created a new Kemba-sized TPE in a season where Beal may move.

— Ryan Bernardoni AC⚡️AB (@dangercart) June 18, 2021

Proposed Kemba and No. 16 for Horford trade on MassLive last week with a full breakdown: https://t.co/obtqQx88W5 pic.twitter.com/6ytrqEiBno

— Brian Robb (@BrianTRobb) June 18, 2021

didnt realize horfs contract was that favorable

brad is online

activate... brad

Is Al gonna come back, retire as a player, and become the coach?

player coach lets do this

horf really does have coach vibes its true, im on board with the retirement coach plan, great from a cap pov too

I think he'd be a great coach. Plus the young stars look up to him already.

its an ingenious idea, tip o the cap 2 u

is brad gonna be like doc and keep getting his former guys back

lol

OH COME ON https://t.co/zDN2kqDJwC

— Hunter Felt (@HunterFelt) June 18, 2021

hahaha

well they got it done, this was always what the shape of a kemba trade was going to look like. sucks to have to keep moving picks to turn over these bad veteran contracts.

seems like presti gave brad a sweetheart deal to me. they only had to trade a mid first to get off kemba’s deal and they got back moses brown who the thunder signed to one of those crazy cheap borderline amoral lu dort style contracts

deal seems pretty fair to me tho yeah mo brown could swing it the celtics way, okc will prob rehab kemba and get more picks for him in six months lol

cuban looking for familiar comfort

Former Mavericks star Dirk Nowitzki tells @NYTSports that he is rejoining the organization as special advisor.

Nowitzki's first assignment at the request of Mavericks owner Mark Cuban: Assisting the team in its search for a new head of basketball operations and then coach.

— Marc Stein (@TheSteinLine) June 18, 2021

dirk loves the mavs

At Mark Cuban’s request, Dirk Nowitzki, Michael Finley and a select group of trusted, longtime staffers met with him yesterday to discuss the franchise’s path forward. https://t.co/F37kzgpa9Z

— Tim MacMahon (@espn_macmahon) June 18, 2021

the celtics cleared $32m in cap space and all they had to do was give up a pick that is at best a coin flip to return even a solid rotation player. or looking at it the other way, the thunder are paying $32m for a coin flip’s chance at getting a solid rotation player. seems like a great deal for boston

thunder just dont care about the salary they prob even need to to reach the floor but they do love draft picks lol, its true that a mid first might be slightly below market for taking that on but i think its in the ballpark of normal

it’s not that dissimilar from the deal where OKC acquired horford, but in that one the sixers gave up a 2025 first. i’m surprised the thunder agreed to take back a pick that is locked into 18 & also still not sure why they had to give up moses brown for the privilege of taking on one of the more onerous contracts in the league

i guess part of their calculation is that kemba will opt out of the final year of his deal to get out of there if they can’t trade him but that assumes good health at minimum from him

the pick is 16 fwiw, idk the deal seems pretty normal, maybe the thunder really like this years draft or just figured its the lowest the celtics are likely to be in the next few years, the contracts are the same length and comparable this year then next year if the celtics decide to cut horf his contract is about half as much as kemba, kinda doubt the thunder are banking on kemba opting out tho it may end up making sense for him

maybe the celtics dont even cut horf but having the flexibility is nice and it will be some sort of super expiring contract next year which is good for trades not quite sure how it factors into the celtics getting brad beal tho

moses brown apparently not valued highly by either team

Some things I'm hearing in the aftermath of the Kemba deal:
-Cs feel better about their chances of re-signing Fournier now
-This doesn't necessarily mean Tristan Thompson's time in Boston is over
-Moses Brown was mostly added as a salary match but will get a look

— Adam Himmelsbach (@AdamHimmelsbach) June 18, 2021

insanity

After Kemba trade, OKC projected to pick at 4, 16, 18, 35, 36, 55, + possibility Thunder steal Rockets pick if it drops to #5

— Jonathan Wasserman (@NBADraftWass) June 18, 2021