nba playoffs aka the 'offs (which includes the 'ins) 2021

You don’t wind up to strip the ball in basketball

Exactly. There's a dude I hoop with who winds up to block a shot EVERY TIME and I've had to descalate shit 20 or more times because yeah guys tend not to appreciate that. He just doesn't know any better but Jokic for goddamn sure does.

i probably would have called it a flagrant 1 but if you commit a flagrant 1 you're opening yourself to the possibility that some important people think you've committed a flagrant 2

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― Clay, Sunday, June 13, 2021 9:53 PM (twenty-one seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

7 foot tall 400 pound bosnian cop, not someone i want to meet!

If lebron did it it was a flagrant 1. Everyone else that’s a flagrant 2

If lebron did it it was a flagrant 1. Everyone else that’s a flagrant 2

They kick ppl out of games for this type of thing all the time. Cutting dudes legs when they’re dunking, getting under guys when they’re shooting. It’s not the result it’s the fact that you could have really badly hurt someone

xp self but it was a bad foul with bad intent committed on a guy's face and there should be consequences for that

a dude jokic's size winding up in that amount of time and space while losing by ten in a sweep game is going to be judged harsher than most dudes and rightfully so

Like seriously Matt your take here is so bad that I wonder if you've ever hooped and now I can't ever take anything you say about bball seriously

Eh he’s just being a homer. Respect

Hoping this ends up with a suns sweep now

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"Don't wind up" is the advice you get in 5th grade when you block a shot cleanly and still get called for a foul. It's not a sacred hoops rule about being ejected.

Twitter seems to be very split on the call

looked up jokic's brothers and they're straight up pre-rendered gta 4 characters

xxp i don't know what that means? the guy in the officiating center in seacaucus that they interview cited windup, contact, and follow-through as the reasons for the call.

Yeah none of that makes sense. There was wind up and follow through with a hand that hit the ball

Jokic's dad was an ag engineer and his brothers also tried to play pro basketball. This shit about them being scary feels obviously nagl.

imho it was a borderline call, i wouldve liked to see them leave jokic in cause of the situation, but its def not any sort of out of the question to call that a 2, that was for sure a dangerous non basketball play

how can a non basketball play involve so much basketball?

Yeah none of that makes sense. There was wind up and follow through with a hand that hit the ball

― Matt Armstrong, Sunday, June 13, 2021 10:05 PM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

it makes sense to.....the people that oversee officiating

To echo granny, I’ve totally felt the way Jokic felt when he did that and it’s not that you’re trying to hurt the guy but you could really give a shit if you do

Been on the other end of it too

Personally I think nba officials make bad calls a lot

how can a non basketball play involve so much basketball?

― butyrate humbucker bobbins (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, June 13, 2021 10:09 PM (twenty seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

i guess thatll just have to be a koan for you

guys the point is that the ends don't justify the means

they certainly tell you something about intention

maybe... he wasnt actually trying to make a play on the ball

could be one explanation for why it didnt look like a normal basketball play

they certainly tell you something about intention

― butyrate humbucker bobbins (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, June 13, 2021 10:12 PM (seventeen seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

watch it again and tell me he was worried at all about what he was going to hit on the way down

Well coming from a guy who apparently thinks a windup is part of stripping a ball, I don't think NBA refs gonna lose much sleep over what Matt thinks of them

*personally* i think he was trying to get the forearm

if the nuggets pulled this out and jokic gets suspended for game 5 ....

it was so obviously a frustration foul and he did it in a dangerous manner not too complicated

It's not a sacred hoops rule about being ejected.

It's one of the main things ref are trained to look for when deciding flagrants

and yeah likely didnt even mean to his paynes face, but also didnt really care

don’t know how you could watch that and not see that he had bad intentions yah

He was trying to commit a really hard frustration foul, strangely almost got all ball. It’s a flagrant 1. Everyone here knows it was a flagrant 1, we’ve all watched a lot of basketball here. It’s weird that they went 2.

Most of us thought it was a 2 tho. Surprised the refs agreed

right matt. so we're arguing the minutiae of the fact that you think it's a travesty that it was a 2 and many of us are saying that it was close and could have been a 1 or a 2.

this sport is definitely soccer now. crazy calls to goose the narrative of a series that was over anyway.

Meanwhile is anyone gonna make a shot in this game

xp that's a bizarre thing to say

the number of times two nuggets have run into each other on offense is not great, most of them seem to involve MPJ

Oh yay after the obligatory "Refs are bad" comment we get the "it's all part of a league-directed conspiracy" comment

nuggs don't have a coherent offense without jokic for a stretch this long, that's not surprising xp

cp3 out there playing like a carefree 24 year old, what a delight

yeah it’s bittersweet as hell watching chris live this out at the nuggets expense ;_;

he is loving life right now

13-17 on 2s, no 3s, 7/7 from the line