2021 nba offseason draft free agency etc

everyone because they're both free agents after this year.

the knicks aren't exactly the team to trade with if you're looking for players, not picks, since everyone is a free agent and/or not that great!

cld do sign and trade maybe

it's possible the celtics look at the east next year and are like, ok we're the 4th best team even in a top outcome scenario let's take a step back and replenish our assets a bit. but also not sure what you're getting for kemba unless it's from a dumb team like the knicks, might make more sense to roll the dice on kemba having a healthy year, the sixers or someone having a down or injury plagued season and maybe the seedings fall right for you or something and you can make another run at the ECF

the thing about kemba besides the fact that he isnt healthy is hes also a bad fit, dumping him on the knicks makes so much sense

even makes sense for the knicks

it definitely makes sense for the knicks as historically they take on overpriced players and place undue expectations onto them leading to mediocrity or worse, often misfit point guards or players w/ knee trouble, hard to imagine a better fit

hes also the hometown kid!

knicks fans would be pscyhed to have kemba. even a busted kemba would probably be the best point guard they've had since...marbury?

yeah kemba would be a fucking legend at MSG, already is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6eMBvSiOq0

Looks like Indy fired their coach

rip, bad and hated coach

prob for the best

Sources: Both the Boston Celtics and Kemba Walker want a breakup. The team tried trading him once in 2020, and it put a strain on the relationship since then.https://t.co/yiyJIexaoz

— Farbod Esnaashari (@Farbod_E) June 9, 2021

Kemba made sense when they had hayward but it’s time to move on

hard to picture what they'd be able to get back for him

http://i.imgur.com/hTXScll.png

kemba can be a top fifteen scorer again, tristan can mentor the kids, let's do this

i'm in

wow steven adams makes 30 mil, what a world

kinda feel like lonzo in boston with brown/tatum could get kemba's numbers and maybe stay healthy too

fwiw ball is a RFA so there would need to be a sign and trade and hes def looking for more than $11m a year, i do love that trade tho i think i mightve even posted it on here before, maybe they could work something out that looks similar, smart-ball-brown-tatum-williams would be a ridiculous defensive team

smart brown ball

also not sure why they only have adams listed at 1 yr, other sources say he signed a 2 yr extension when he was traded, fully guaranteed. he's on the hook for $17m next year and $18m in 22-23

lonzo ball-marcus smart backcourt would be a rollercoaster

smartball, baby, smartball

lonzo is such a weird player to fit and the celtics are a good example of a team that might be able to use him....that next contract is a little scary tho

feel like his biz team would be up for a reasonable one-year deal (15/18?) with a legit '22 ECF contender in a major media market to show his skills on a national stage and set himself up for a long term max extension/sweet sweet endorsement action

plus lavar ball gets to go on boston radio/tv all the time, what fun

feel like the question is if rob can play an uninterrupted series or if they can only get 35 games a season out of him; i would love to see him flourish but if he's gonna be in and out of the lineup for the rest of his career I have to wonder if they want to sell high on him now.

if this is the sell high point on rob that will be very sad

You would have to give New Orleans picks to make that happen imo

Boston could be a truly nasty defensive team if they did that

if lonzo would take a 1 year deal sign me up.

i'm not really sure selling high on rob is a thing, he just hasn't played enough despite all the flashes for anyone to give up much for him. guys get traded at his age to be penciled into a significant role or as a buy-low reclamation project and i don't think he is either for the time being.

to be clear i don't want them to trade rob! i am not wishing him ill! he is exciting as fuck to watch!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxMaWt7UL8g

oh yeah i gotcha my point was just that i think giving him another year and hoping he stays healthy is overwhelmingly the move

for sure, he also knock on wood hasnt had a serious injury yet and a lot of its been like muscle stuff bruises pulls and so forth so one would hope with conditioning and maturity he can find some consistent health, wld be sad if he cannot such a cool talented player

lonzo ball-marcus smart backcourt would be a rollercoaster

― J0rdan S., Wednesday, June 9, 2021 4:04 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

lol yeah hopefully you could find the sweet spot where both of them

can pick their spots cause they are both capable of making plays just not in a high usage way

celtics gave so many minutes this year to guys who just really couldnt do much

i don’t think lonzo is in the 1 year deal stage of his career. someone is gonna give him a 4/80 contract or something

yeah its his first non rookie deal

don't know if it'll be quite that high, probably depends on the market, how many teams have cap space. but whatever the exact number you're probably right and probably not wise for the c's to do that

i think if you could get him for solid starter money ~$15m a/y and move kembas deal thats pretty good

if ball helps bring a championship or even an East Conf championship to Boston, I think he's set with a max deal for four years following and beloved in Boston for the rest of his life.
if he believes he can step it up with the Celts, seems like a wise move to take a risk on a 4m/5m paycut for '22 and let lavar tell everyone how he's a selfless player and incredibly underpaid and then cash in for 23 but i am not an nba player or gm

i do not think hes a max guy a star but i do think he could be a piece a solid guy

the big problem with kemba in boston besides the injuries is hes really a primary scorer who thrives on going full on towards the goal at all times and hes actually not a very good playmaker, but with tatum and brown already in place kemba was having to pick his spots and was just never comfortable and he could never fill that facilitator role which is what they really need

lonzo is not going to create any more half court offense than kemba

ok

celtics have a conventional roster - bigs who do big things, wings who do wing things - so they should probably look for a conventional distributing guard like idk chris paul

do you have any of those