part two of the nba 2020-21 anything but regular season

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We’re talking about the best rebounder in the NBA, on an expiring contract, and there were no takers. I’m saying this was a mistake.


again, you have to match salary to complete a trade in the NBA, and once you acquire players you have to account for the luxury tax, which penalizes teams for having a payroll above a certain threshold. only two teams in the NBA signed up to pay drummond $28 million per year — the cavs and the pistons. it might not be a coincidence that these are also two of the five worst franchises in the league. maybe the pistons, the cavs, and matt armstrong know something the other 28 teams don’t. when drummond is on the market next summer and teams can properly value him i’m sure he’ll have several suitors to choose from, just as he did this week

https://sports.yahoo.com/sources-andre-drummond-cavaliers-will-work-on-a-buyout-190335411.html

J0rdan S., Monday, 29 March 2021 15:32 (five years ago)

the pistons rebound rate this year dropped from 52.4% to......50% when drummond was off the court.

call all destroyer, Monday, 29 March 2021 16:32 (five years ago)

That’s a huge huge difference in rebound rate

Matt Armstrong, Monday, 29 March 2021 17:34 (five years ago)

52.4% would be 4th in the league

Matt Armstrong, Monday, 29 March 2021 17:35 (five years ago)

it moves it from 4th to like middle of the pack. that’s great but rebounding as a whole is a devalued skill relative to other things.

call all destroyer, Monday, 29 March 2021 17:39 (five years ago)

Are we arguing that there’s not a big difference between being 4th of 30 and 15th of 30

Matt Armstrong, Monday, 29 March 2021 18:07 (five years ago)

no it's about the value of rebounds.......?

J0rdan S., Monday, 29 March 2021 18:40 (five years ago)

Being top 4 in one of the 4 core elements of the game is good

Matt Armstrong, Monday, 29 March 2021 19:18 (five years ago)

ok... now what if the 4 core elements of the game had differing values? we're almost there...

J0rdan S., Monday, 29 March 2021 19:26 (five years ago)

what’s the value of being the worst shooter in the league at the rim have?

call all destroyer, Monday, 29 March 2021 19:29 (five years ago)

He’s the worst shooter at the rim? Pretty sure that isn’t true

Matt Armstrong, Monday, 29 March 2021 19:42 (five years ago)

The key thing I’m trying to stress here is that moving a basketball team from 50% rebounding rate to 52.4% is actually a lot. It means you’re an awesome rebounder.

Matt Armstrong, Monday, 29 March 2021 19:47 (five years ago)

The key thing I’m trying to stress here is that moving a basketball team from 50% rebounding rate to 52.4% is actually a lot. It means you’re an awesome rebounder.

― Matt Armstrong, Monday, March 29, 2021 3:47 PM (twenty-two minutes ago)

yeah but it's like stressing how you grew your collection of 1 dollar bills while everyone else is playing with 10s and 20s and hundreds

J0rdan S., Monday, 29 March 2021 20:10 (five years ago)

1$ bills rain too though and some teams are really into that

(•̪●) (carne asada), Monday, 29 March 2021 21:02 (five years ago)

The key thing I’m trying to stress here is that moving a basketball team from 50% rebounding rate to 52.4% is actually a lot. It means you’re an awesome rebounder.

― Matt Armstrong, Monday, March 29, 2021 3:47 PM (twenty-two minutes ago)

yeah but it's like stressing how you grew your collection of 1 dollar bills while everyone else is playing with 10s and 20s and hundreds


No rebounding is actually really important. It gives your team more possessions

Matt Armstrong, Monday, 29 March 2021 23:28 (five years ago)

I guess that sentence works with or without the comma

DJI, Monday, 29 March 2021 23:34 (five years ago)

$1 bills are important too as they give you more money, just not as much money as the other kinds of bills

J0rdan S., Monday, 29 March 2021 23:40 (five years ago)

rebounds are good but theres not any one nba skill where being elite makes you generally elite

lag∞n, Tuesday, 30 March 2021 01:50 (five years ago)

there is one, and its called...hoopin

class project pat (m bison), Tuesday, 30 March 2021 02:12 (five years ago)

oh damn

lag∞n, Tuesday, 30 March 2021 02:17 (five years ago)

Somebody get Jayson Tatum a map he’s out here lost on Ingram Island pic.twitter.com/GrOYvkdzEx

— ZION MVP (@PelicansNBA2) March 30, 2021

Dook players showing out tonight

Sabre of Paradise (trevor phillips), Tuesday, 30 March 2021 02:27 (five years ago)

Windhorst: The Lakers offered Schröder $84 million over 4 years and he said no to that extension

— pickuphoop (@pickuphoop) March 30, 2021

lag∞n, Tuesday, 30 March 2021 13:10 (five years ago)

are you shitting me

Heez, Tuesday, 30 March 2021 13:16 (five years ago)

lol what a dummy

(•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 30 March 2021 14:04 (five years ago)

A legend in his own mind, as they say.

Judge Roi Behan (Aimless), Tuesday, 30 March 2021 16:59 (five years ago)

This won’t end that badly for him but what a crazy decision. How much does he hate playing for the lakers?

Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 31 March 2021 00:36 (five years ago)

that number seems solid for both sides

i was too much listening to your accent (Spottie), Wednesday, 31 March 2021 00:44 (five years ago)

that would slot him in the van vleet / rozier / brogdon / dragic range which seems about right

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/rankings/point-guard/

i was too much listening to your accent (Spottie), Wednesday, 31 March 2021 00:47 (five years ago)

hes well worse than all those guys IMHO, not a fan, shouldve taken that money

lag∞n, Wednesday, 31 March 2021 00:51 (five years ago)

he's prone to untimely turnovers and he's not that great of a facilitator imo

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 31 March 2021 13:03 (five years ago)

his roll off the bench was great because he does come with energy and and a nice change of pace.

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 31 March 2021 13:05 (five years ago)

yeah def microwave type

lag∞n, Wednesday, 31 March 2021 13:13 (five years ago)

Michael Porter Jr is shooting 45% from 3 on 6 attempts per game. Must be fun to do that

Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 31 March 2021 16:55 (five years ago)

apparently jj redick went on his podcast and called the pelicans front office a bunch of liars. i guess i’ll have to track that down.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 31 March 2021 17:31 (five years ago)

uh oh lol

lag∞n, Wednesday, 31 March 2021 17:48 (five years ago)

apparently they told him they were gonna trade him to a team in new york city to be near his family then they traded him to dallas

lag∞n, Wednesday, 31 March 2021 18:02 (five years ago)

i mean they should not have told him that if they werent going to follow through but also

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ex044H9WUAIusn8?format=jpg&name=medium

lag∞n, Wednesday, 31 March 2021 18:04 (five years ago)

yeah he admitted to being naive in thinking that a team would do him a favor like that.

interestingly he also felt that with jrue getting traded and stan getting hired he was going to lose a bunch of playing time which was accurate.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 31 March 2021 18:23 (five years ago)

thing I just learned about jj:

His father's background as a stoneware potter led to his middle name, "Clay."

love a literal dad

Clay, Wednesday, 31 March 2021 18:27 (five years ago)

haha

i was too much listening to your accent (Spottie), Wednesday, 31 March 2021 18:36 (five years ago)

dallas is a good spot for him tho

i was too much listening to your accent (Spottie), Wednesday, 31 March 2021 18:36 (five years ago)

Yea don't know why he's whining; he cried about the Sixers FO "not valuing me" or some similar BS when he left Philly too. If being close to family was so ungodly important to him above all else then don't sign with a team on the other side of the country away from them or just retire lol. The "Woe is me, I have to play in DALLAS with LUKA DONCIC for ~3 months on my massive undeserved $12+ million contract" pity party not a good look.

Sabre of Paradise (trevor phillips), Wednesday, 31 March 2021 18:41 (five years ago)

he specifically said he was excited about the fit in dallas.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 31 March 2021 18:48 (five years ago)

i think his point was just that it’s not good to promise something you have no intention of delivering.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 31 March 2021 18:49 (five years ago)

I'm pretty sure this magical "promise" he talks about was never along the lines of "We PROMISE to send you to NY at ALL COSTS or David Griffin will COMMIT HARA KIRI FOR HIS CRIMES". It was probably more along the lines of "Hey, we'll TRY to send you to a Northeast team, but your washed up play and bloated contract isn't gonna make that the easy for us". But JJ Redick isn't gonna say something that makes JJ Redick look like a liar or embellisher on JJ Redick's sponsored podcast of course lol.

Sabre of Paradise (trevor phillips), Wednesday, 31 March 2021 18:54 (five years ago)

i do love his pods tho

i was too much listening to your accent (Spottie), Wednesday, 31 March 2021 18:55 (five years ago)

he said he had a direct conversation with griffin and that griffin gave him his word he would get him to the northeast if it wasn’t working in new orleans this season.

i have no idea why someone would make that up.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 31 March 2021 18:58 (five years ago)

I mean dude also claimed Kenrich Williams departure was one of the deciding factors in him wanting a trade in the first place; I think at that point you're kinda looking for reasons to feel slighted or wronged lol. If he didn't pull this same routine with the last FO that dumped him when he flamed out at the end of his last contract, and this wasn't all being aired out on his own personal podcast echo chamber I'd be more willing to fully believe his side of things.

Sabre of Paradise (trevor phillips), Wednesday, 31 March 2021 19:06 (five years ago)

he didn’t really say that. he said they traded two of their versatile defenders making it less likely stan would give him playing time.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 31 March 2021 19:18 (five years ago)


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