part two of the nba 2020-21 anything but regular season

Malone’s injury was a crazy fluke

not sure exactly what the mix is with drummond being so bad and hated around the nba but seems to be something like: doesnt fit into the modern nba style eg cannot defend the perimeter, is an unsound selfish player, is a weird guy maybe, overpaid too or at least was

eye test he seems to be one of those big first half guys who disappears when the defense adjusts

he put up ridiculous counting numbers his whole career including getting a bunch of blocks and steals

i think basically no one wants to have their style of play dictated by an old fashion low post center, and hes kind of a black hole which just makes its even more the drummond show, and even his defense around the basket isnt what it might seem teams get a lot of close in high percentage looks when he plays

if he turned into more of a mid/low usage defense/rebounding/roll man teams wld prob be more interested, but again 25m is not what those guys are getting paid these days, and thats even assuming he can fill the defensive role teams are looking for

he is a seriously great rebounder but i guess is just not made for these times

I just don’t know how a guy that rebounds, steals and blocks that much can be a bad defender. Like yah he may get cooked by guards on the pnr but all bigs do outside of a select few. Seems like his thing has always been motor and he’s playing for a future payday so I think he’ll be locked in.

The best teammate he’s ever had is like... Tobias Harris so being behind Bron and ad will be interesting to see.

I’m enjoying the aaron gordon experience

RoCo seems to have turned it around after a rough start to his pdx tenure

yeah covington figured something out, seems like it just took him awhile to feel comfortable on the team or w/ the offense, he's much more aggressive and looking for his now

new-look blazers with powell and nurk's return and cj looking like hisself.... that's a LOT of offense on this squad

what i have heard is that drummond's teams don't rebound any better with him on the floor than off it and he's not that good in pick and roll offense or pick and roll defense

Aaron Gordon looks very comfortable already, made the best pass I’ve ever seen from him

_it happened bcuz his salary was $25 million (not wildly underrated) so no one wanted to or could trade for him and then after buy out he could choose to play for the defending champs based in LA_


Celtics had a 30 million trade exception. Why didn’t they trade for him? Because they didn’t think he was that good.

I only watch the first half of that denver hawks game, but jokic pulling capela out to the three point line was killing the hawks' defense

Drummond brings back a semblance of the size advantage the Lakers were able to utilize so well last year especially with the second unit.

drummond might not be worth the max but hes def worth the min, especially for such a top heavy team

third one seems good

Some possible solutions to the buy out problem:
1. Change structures so nearly everyone is trying to win every game
2. If you take a buy out for less than full $ after contract guarantee date, ineligible for playoffs
3. Lux tax hit is equal to higher of new or old contract https://t.co/N6ufn0kyAw

— Ryan Bernardoni AC⚡️AB (@dangercart) March 29, 2021

__it happened bcuz his salary was $25 million (not wildly underrated) so no one wanted to or could trade for him and then after buy out he could choose to play for the defending champs based in LA_


Celtics had a 30 million trade exception. Why didn’t they trade for him? Because they didn’t think he was that good._


then they would’ve had to pay his massive salary when they were so close to the tax that they ended up salary dumping thiess in order to fit fournier who makes $10 million less than drummond. nobody wants to pay drummond a max salary (which is why he got traded to the cavs for a second round pick the first time around). i’m sure once he’s a FA next summer he’ll get a contract paying him $4 million like javale or any other decent back up center which is what he is now

We’re talking about the best rebounder in the NBA, on an expiring contract, and there were no takers. I’m saying this was a mistake.

be interesting to see what kind of contract he gets, full midlevel seems likely tho could def something higher like 13/2, see how he plays on the lakers

We’re talking about the best rebounder in the NBA, on an expiring contract, and there were no takers. I’m saying this was a mistake.

the pistons rebound rate this year dropped from 52.4% to......50% when drummond was off the court.

That’s a huge huge difference in rebound rate

52.4% would be 4th in the league

it moves it from 4th to like middle of the pack. that’s great but rebounding as a whole is a devalued skill relative to other things.

Are we arguing that there’s not a big difference between being 4th of 30 and 15th of 30

no it's about the value of rebounds.......?

Being top 4 in one of the 4 core elements of the game is good

ok... now what if the 4 core elements of the game had differing values? we're almost there...

what’s the value of being the worst shooter in the league at the rim have?

He’s the worst shooter at the rim? Pretty sure that isn’t true

The key thing I’m trying to stress here is that moving a basketball team from 50% rebounding rate to 52.4% is actually a lot. It means you’re an awesome rebounder.

he is indeed that with a baseline number of attempts

https://www.nba.com/stats/players/shooting/?Season=2020-21&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&DistanceRange=By%20Zone&sort=Restricted%20Area%20FG%20PCT&dir=-1&CF=Restricted%20Area%20FGA*GE*200&PerMode=Totals&DateTo=03%2F22%2F2021

The key thing I’m trying to stress here is that moving a basketball team from 50% rebounding rate to 52.4% is actually a lot. It means you’re an awesome rebounder.

― Matt Armstrong, Monday, March 29, 2021 3:47 PM (twenty-two minutes ago)

yeah but it's like stressing how you grew your collection of 1 dollar bills while everyone else is playing with 10s and 20s and hundreds

1$ bills rain too though and some teams are really into that

The key thing I’m trying to stress here is that moving a basketball team from 50% rebounding rate to 52.4% is actually a lot. It means you’re an awesome rebounder.

― Matt Armstrong, Monday, March 29, 2021 3:47 PM (twenty-two minutes ago)

yeah but it's like stressing how you grew your collection of 1 dollar bills while everyone else is playing with 10s and 20s and hundreds

I guess that sentence works with or without the comma

$1 bills are important too as they give you more money, just not as much money as the other kinds of bills

rebounds are good but theres not any one nba skill where being elite makes you generally elite

there is one, and its called...hoopin

oh damn

Somebody get Jayson Tatum a map he’s out here lost on Ingram Island pic.twitter.com/GrOYvkdzEx

— ZION MVP (@PelicansNBA2) March 30, 2021

Dook players showing out tonight

Windhorst: The Lakers offered Schröder $84 million over 4 years and he said no to that extension

— pickuphoop (@pickuphoop) March 30, 2021

are you shitting me

lol what a dummy

A legend in his own mind, as they say.

This won’t end that badly for him but what a crazy decision. How much does he hate playing for the lakers?

that number seems solid for both sides

that would slot him in the van vleet / rozier / brogdon / dragic range which seems about right

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/rankings/point-guard/