part two of the nba 2020-21 anything but regular season

These plays never work

HARRISON BARNES!!!!! How the hell did that work?? pic.twitter.com/ASKMftBZrq

— Tony Xypteras (@TonyXypteras) March 28, 2021

last one i can remember working

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfNyjbkaYqI

drummond to lakers apparently?

shit is so corny

Cheering for anyone but lakers or nets to win this year

world’s dumbest arms race, hate it no thanks

probably time for them to take a look at buyout changes in the cba, i don’t think anyone likes this.

This happened because teams across the league wildly underrate Drummond

it happened bcuz his salary was $25 million (not wildly underrated) so no one wanted to or could trade for him and then after buy out he could choose to play for the defending champs based in LA

buyouts feel like fantasy basketball to me, tons of articles and podcasts and conversation are produced every year about them and then the guys involved play 9 mpg in the playoffs. the culture of it is just a lot of hot air

blake and LMA might play more bcuz the nets have a uniquely top loaded roster but if you’re relying on buyout guys it’s usually a bad sign. can guarantee there’s gonna be an important playoff game where those two get completely exposed by the bucks or sixers and the conversation shifts to, hmm might’ve been a bad idea to rely on buyout guys!

kinda funny that with bron and brow out the lakers are gonna be another bad team with drummond putting up 15 shots a game for a while

i prob have some weird bias here but i feel like ringhunting rarely works out (tho i guess only one team wins every year)

like the first time i was really aware of "old dudes changing teams to get an easy ring" was that lakers team with malone and payton getting dragged along and, well

nets really shouldve tried to make a trade for guys who can play defense, dont see blake or lma helping them too much as theyre both cooked and bad defenders

the lakers could realistically end up like the 6th seed if bron's injury lingers...

drummond not a great fit with the lakers as their best lineups will always be with brow at center, wonder if hell end up mostly playing backup center in the offs, having a guy who can do some stuff while brow sits could be pretty huge for them tho

it happened bcuz his salary was $25 million (not wildly underrated) so no one wanted to or could trade for him and then after buy out he could choose to play for the defending champs based in LA

like the first time i was really aware of "old dudes changing teams to get an easy ring" was that lakers team with malone and payton getting dragged along and, well

― Clay, Sunday, March 28, 2021 6:08 PM (six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

that team was actually really god until... the old guys got injured lol

Malone’s injury was a crazy fluke

not sure exactly what the mix is with drummond being so bad and hated around the nba but seems to be something like: doesnt fit into the modern nba style eg cannot defend the perimeter, is an unsound selfish player, is a weird guy maybe, overpaid too or at least was

eye test he seems to be one of those big first half guys who disappears when the defense adjusts

he put up ridiculous counting numbers his whole career including getting a bunch of blocks and steals

i think basically no one wants to have their style of play dictated by an old fashion low post center, and hes kind of a black hole which just makes its even more the drummond show, and even his defense around the basket isnt what it might seem teams get a lot of close in high percentage looks when he plays

if he turned into more of a mid/low usage defense/rebounding/roll man teams wld prob be more interested, but again 25m is not what those guys are getting paid these days, and thats even assuming he can fill the defensive role teams are looking for

he is a seriously great rebounder but i guess is just not made for these times

I just don’t know how a guy that rebounds, steals and blocks that much can be a bad defender. Like yah he may get cooked by guards on the pnr but all bigs do outside of a select few. Seems like his thing has always been motor and he’s playing for a future payday so I think he’ll be locked in.

The best teammate he’s ever had is like... Tobias Harris so being behind Bron and ad will be interesting to see.

I’m enjoying the aaron gordon experience

RoCo seems to have turned it around after a rough start to his pdx tenure

yeah covington figured something out, seems like it just took him awhile to feel comfortable on the team or w/ the offense, he's much more aggressive and looking for his now

new-look blazers with powell and nurk's return and cj looking like hisself.... that's a LOT of offense on this squad

what i have heard is that drummond's teams don't rebound any better with him on the floor than off it and he's not that good in pick and roll offense or pick and roll defense

Aaron Gordon looks very comfortable already, made the best pass I’ve ever seen from him

_it happened bcuz his salary was $25 million (not wildly underrated) so no one wanted to or could trade for him and then after buy out he could choose to play for the defending champs based in LA_


Celtics had a 30 million trade exception. Why didn’t they trade for him? Because they didn’t think he was that good.

I only watch the first half of that denver hawks game, but jokic pulling capela out to the three point line was killing the hawks' defense

Drummond brings back a semblance of the size advantage the Lakers were able to utilize so well last year especially with the second unit.

drummond might not be worth the max but hes def worth the min, especially for such a top heavy team

third one seems good

Some possible solutions to the buy out problem:
1. Change structures so nearly everyone is trying to win every game
2. If you take a buy out for less than full $ after contract guarantee date, ineligible for playoffs
3. Lux tax hit is equal to higher of new or old contract https://t.co/N6ufn0kyAw

— Ryan Bernardoni AC⚡️AB (@dangercart) March 29, 2021

__it happened bcuz his salary was $25 million (not wildly underrated) so no one wanted to or could trade for him and then after buy out he could choose to play for the defending champs based in LA_


Celtics had a 30 million trade exception. Why didn’t they trade for him? Because they didn’t think he was that good._


then they would’ve had to pay his massive salary when they were so close to the tax that they ended up salary dumping thiess in order to fit fournier who makes $10 million less than drummond. nobody wants to pay drummond a max salary (which is why he got traded to the cavs for a second round pick the first time around). i’m sure once he’s a FA next summer he’ll get a contract paying him $4 million like javale or any other decent back up center which is what he is now

We’re talking about the best rebounder in the NBA, on an expiring contract, and there were no takers. I’m saying this was a mistake.

be interesting to see what kind of contract he gets, full midlevel seems likely tho could def something higher like 13/2, see how he plays on the lakers

We’re talking about the best rebounder in the NBA, on an expiring contract, and there were no takers. I’m saying this was a mistake.

the pistons rebound rate this year dropped from 52.4% to......50% when drummond was off the court.

That’s a huge huge difference in rebound rate

52.4% would be 4th in the league

it moves it from 4th to like middle of the pack. that’s great but rebounding as a whole is a devalued skill relative to other things.

Are we arguing that there’s not a big difference between being 4th of 30 and 15th of 30

no it's about the value of rebounds.......?

Being top 4 in one of the 4 core elements of the game is good

ok... now what if the 4 core elements of the game had differing values? we're almost there...

what’s the value of being the worst shooter in the league at the rim have?