but whats happening this season is in line with larger trends
― lag∞n, Saturday, 13 February 2021 22:07 (three years ago) link
i do think they shd widen the court and move the line out, even just moving the corners to the normal distance might make a difference
my first post was an xp to aimless but yeah my concern is that every team is shooting too well and it’s coming from the middle and bottom of rotations. i don’t really wanna turn on a bucks game and see guys like dante divicenzo and brynn forbes making 50% of their threes
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 13 February 2021 22:09 (three years ago) link
every passing year the nba meta moves further from what we mortals can achieve as basketball players. whether this bothers you of course varies
― micah, Saturday, 13 February 2021 22:09 (three years ago) link
i’m def in favor of them changing the court to make three point shooting more of a specialized skill again but we’ll see if things normalize once fans return
NBA basketball isn’t an ungovernable naturally occurring force... the league can do things to make the product a bit better to watch on a night to night basis (playoff basketball doesn’t really have this problem)
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 13 February 2021 22:11 (three years ago) link
i think the fans will make a difference but also players are prob just getting better at shooting too
― lag∞n, Saturday, 13 February 2021 22:11 (three years ago) link
my three point plan:1. widen the court and move the line out2. play fewer games a year (58?)3. dial back the officiating just a little so the play is at say 2013 levels of physicalitybonus point. have fewer playoff teams, first round is best of 5 the top two teams in each conf get a bye and its finished in a week
― lag∞n, Saturday, 13 February 2021 22:15 (three years ago) link
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 14 February 2021 9:09 AM
moving the line out by two feet wont make it a specialised skill for more than a couple of seasons. if your problem is that nba players shoot too well its not going to go away. all rule changes can do is decrease volume
― micah, Saturday, 13 February 2021 22:17 (three years ago) link
i am a big fan of reintroducing a bit of hand checking
― micah, Saturday, 13 February 2021 22:20 (three years ago) link
Like what, in the first half, but not the second half?
― Compromise isn't a principle, it's a method (Aimless), Saturday, 13 February 2021 22:29 (three years ago) link
my rule change: if u pump fake and your defender jumps to block, you cant draw a foul unless they make contact when your feet are set (aka cant jump into contact)
― class project pat (m bison), Saturday, 13 February 2021 22:43 (three years ago) link
also let ppl play a lil defense, as a treat
theyre already not supposed to call it when the shooter jumps into the defender but they dont do a great job
― lag∞n, Saturday, 13 February 2021 22:45 (three years ago) link
my bugaboo now is when defenders go over screens and the ball handler jumps up flailing and gets a 3 point foul via proximity, dragic does this all the time
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 13 February 2021 22:48 (three years ago) link
yeah that one is trending
― lag∞n, Saturday, 13 February 2021 22:49 (three years ago) link
they should have a new category of foul where you just get side out and it doesnt count against the bonus, just like fine heres the ball you happy
― lag∞n, Saturday, 13 February 2021 22:50 (three years ago) link
include rip throughs all sorts of stopping sort and jumping into defenders
― lag∞n, Saturday, 13 February 2021 22:53 (three years ago) link
― J0rdan S., Saturday, February 13, 2021 4:48 PM (sixteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
ya this is booty
― class project pat (m bison), Saturday, 13 February 2021 23:05 (three years ago) link
Yah it was great when they changed the rip through foul. No reason they can’t do something similar on the 3 point jump into and the over the screen play.
― a nice controlled drift (Spottie), Saturday, 13 February 2021 23:28 (three years ago) link
Ref baiting is my least fav part of the game. I’m cool with a ton of threes if the game is sound drive n kick + crazy Steph n Harden sidesteps and backsteps. But once the playoffs start it all changes anyway cos teams actually try and take it away more. There have been a few too many games this year where it’s like ok we clearly can’t match up with this team and we only have half our roster so the only shot we have is to run and hoist and pray for variance in our favor. Makes for some very ugly hoop for sure.
― a nice controlled drift (Spottie), Saturday, 13 February 2021 23:32 (three years ago) link
The magic are down to vooch and like 7 two-way level players
― a nice controlled drift (Spottie), Saturday, 13 February 2021 23:33 (three years ago) link
magic season is lost. they shd make trades and get hella draft picks.
― class project pat (m bison), Saturday, 13 February 2021 23:51 (three years ago) link
yes it is sad but they have no choice but to trade aaron gordon to the celtics for a 1st and a 2nd
― lag∞n, Saturday, 13 February 2021 23:53 (three years ago) link
it's true
― class project pat (m bison), Sunday, 14 February 2021 00:22 (three years ago) link
its settled then
― lag∞n, Sunday, 14 February 2021 00:54 (three years ago) link
I think the league has considered awarding only 2 free throws for being fouled on a 3 point attempt which they absolutely should do, widening the court also a good idea imo
― k3vin k., Sunday, 14 February 2021 02:45 (three years ago) link
yeah def support only two shots for all fouls
― lag∞n, Sunday, 14 February 2021 02:48 (three years ago) link
one shot for two points imo
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 14 February 2021 02:52 (three years ago) link
what abt for and-1s are u suggesting they be and-2s
― class project pat (m bison), Sunday, 14 February 2021 02:53 (three years ago) link
and ones you get as many shots as you want just whatever feel right to you
― lag∞n, Sunday, 14 February 2021 02:54 (three years ago) link
no and ones are still and ones, sorry for being unclear
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 14 February 2021 02:55 (three years ago) link
You should get to shoot the free shot for the full amount from where the foul occurred.
― a nice controlled drift (Spottie), Sunday, 14 February 2021 05:59 (three years ago) link
that’s a sweet idea imo
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 14 February 2021 11:12 (three years ago) link
like a free kick in soccer, thats actually amazing. big dudes getting hacked down low would be able to basically get a freebie. im in favor.
― class project pat (m bison), Sunday, 14 February 2021 14:24 (three years ago) link
like oh, you would have really made that shot, then? let’s see it
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 14 February 2021 14:45 (three years ago) link
honestly, it would restore some value to big men. if they can draw fouls up close, they'd be less of a FT liability
― class project pat (m bison), Sunday, 14 February 2021 15:03 (three years ago) link
u cd still use the traditional FT line for off-ball fouls in the bonus, too.
― class project pat (m bison), Sunday, 14 February 2021 15:04 (three years ago) link
so we doing this or...?
― That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 14 February 2021 17:46 (three years ago) link
I think making 3 point fouls only worth 2 points is actually essential to discouraging ref baiting on those shots, I forget where maybe it was the athletic that pointed out recently how insanely valuable it is to get fouled like that, like much higher expected points than a dunk attempt. it's just silly
― k3vin k., Sunday, 14 February 2021 18:08 (three years ago) link
yeah 3s and 2s have roughly the same expected value
― lag∞n, Sunday, 14 February 2021 18:11 (three years ago) link
how do you stop teams from full on tackling every opposing player taking a buzzer beating 3 to tie tho
― Clay, Sunday, 14 February 2021 18:13 (three years ago) link
yeah good pt, you could make the rule change not apply for the last minute or two, feel like that article brought that up too.
― k3vin k., Sunday, 14 February 2021 18:20 (three years ago) link
also teams can always foul before the shot if they want
― lag∞n, Sunday, 14 February 2021 18:28 (three years ago) link
fouling on the shot is much worse cause they still might make it
tbh they could just change the interpretation of what it means to be in the act of shooting... like you actually have to be shooting (or landing)
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 14 February 2021 18:39 (three years ago) link
i think theyve already done a pretty good job of that
― micah, Sunday, 14 February 2021 20:53 (three years ago) link
Draymond with 6/8/16. Steph with 36 on 13-19. Both in 30 minutes.
― Fetchboy, Tuesday, 16 February 2021 05:38 (three years ago) link
Steph Curry is the first guard since Michael Jordan in 1995-96 with at least 25 points and 50% FG in ten straight games 👨🍳 pic.twitter.com/fhQuJkiUYQ— SportsCenter (@SportsCenter) February 16, 2021
― a nice controlled drift (Spottie), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 06:54 (three years ago) link
Julius Randle is averaging:*more points than Anthony Davis or Karl-Anthony Towns*more rebounds than Joel Embiid orBam Adebayo*more assists than Jrue Holiday or Donovan MitchellAnd Randle is shooting a higher percentage from 3-point range than Dame Lillard and Buddy Hield— Tommy Beer (@TommyBeer) February 16, 2021
― a nice controlled drift (Spottie), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 18:28 (three years ago) link