i do also wonder if there's something to the idea of rhythm when it comes to off ball shooters, and how that's effected by an increase in isolation play by ball handlers. i guess we'll see what the shooting percentages of tucker/ariza/gordon etc look like at the end of the series
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 15 May 2018 18:37 (six years ago) link
yeah i agree ariza foul trouble throws a wrench to the analysis of last night xp
just think you've got to mix it up. altho it seemed every time they tried something else last night it ended in a turnover.
― they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Tuesday, May 15, 2018 2:34 PM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
they don't really have experience doing anything else in the reg season so this isn't surprising.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 18:38 (six years ago) link
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, May 15, 2018 11:37 AM (thirty-six seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this is the reason kerr only uses isos and pnr when they have to. keeps the other players engaged on both ends.
― they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 18:38 (six years ago) link
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, May 15, 2018 11:38 AM (thirty-six seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah true. we're probably just overreacting to game 1. that method got them a ton of dominant wins and the 1 seed. i think the rox will win game 2 pretty handily.
― they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 18:40 (six years ago) link
re: variance, it's tough to play slow when you're the far inferior defensive team and expect to have good results. a good way to increase variance would be to replace chris paul 2s with 3s from other shooters.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 18:42 (six years ago) link
good lord KD looked unstoppable at times last night. Murderer's row from midrange.
― Joe Gargan (dandydonweiner), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 18:45 (six years ago) link
CP took 7 3s last night
― they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 18:47 (six years ago) link
thought Klay was really effective on him, always has been
kevon looney's D was... really good
― 龜, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 18:50 (six years ago) link
really? i didn't think he was doing much.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 18:51 (six years ago) link
never left his feet
i also like how it seems all NBA players have learned to jump around a 3 shooter to avoid fouling them on the contest
― 龜, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 18:51 (six years ago) link
yeah looney was really solid, got blown by a couple times but so did everyone else. he's prob the best big they have against the pnr (outside of dray)
― they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 18:52 (six years ago) link
nothing worse than the pervasive flopping that goes on by players who bomb fadeaway threes and somehow must hit the floor on a touch foul
― Joe Gargan (dandydonweiner), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 18:54 (six years ago) link
think we discussed on here but one reason (some) players do it is to allow for a softer landing on your feet if you feel someone is encroaching your landing zone. avoids the ankle sprains. it does get extreme tho yea
― they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 18:56 (six years ago) link
Pj Tucker and Luc combined 0-9 last night. luc looked like he was playing to avoid re-injuring his shoulder, hes prob unplayable in this series if that's the case.
― they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 18:59 (six years ago) link
yeah he didn't look like he should be on the floor. his 3s were way off.
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 15 May 2018 19:04 (six years ago) link
i've started kind of aggressively rooting for the rockets
what is this feeling should i go to the doctor
― horford chants out between two worlds, "kyrie walk with me" (slothroprhymes), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 20:20 (six years ago) link
everyone is doing it
― they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 20:22 (six years ago) link
another issue with attacking steph or looney on every posession is that it lets kd save all his energy for offense
― micah, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 20:22 (six years ago) link
Warriors-Rockets was TNT’s most-watched Western Conference finals opener ever with 8.8 million viewers and most-watched West Game 1 on any network since Lakers/Kings in 2002.— Brian Mahoney (@briancmahoney) May 15, 2018
― they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 20:24 (six years ago) link
i've enjoyed the d'antoni rockets greatly, but i don't think i ever /rooted/ for them until these playoffs due to like, psychic scars from their last dwight year, when they were one of the most excruciating-to-watch constantly televised teams ever (and thus inescapable if you lacked league pass & watched national games to get yr fix)
i was even rooting for them against the underdog wolves bc i thought we might see jimmy butler's spine shatter on live tv if thibs played him longer
― horford chants out between two worlds, "kyrie walk with me" (slothroprhymes), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 20:31 (six years ago) link
last year's Rockets were the best watch in the league
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 20:40 (six years ago) link
infinite harden drive and kicks into 30ft 3s
i really don't understand the problem with the warriors
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 15 May 2018 21:45 (six years ago) link
incredibly talented team who plays a very exciting style of basketball?
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 15 May 2018 21:46 (six years ago) link
my problem with them is kd taking a big pay cut to play with them, it breaks the purpose of the salary cap from a viewer's perspective. the team was already talented and exciting 2 years ago, now it just feels like they've subverted the rules
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 21:55 (six years ago) link
it’s that they’re unbeatable
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 15 May 2018 21:55 (six years ago) link
I mean I like watching them play a lot too but it sort of makes the playoffs pointless
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 15 May 2018 21:56 (six years ago) link
the durant signing was pathetic. im rooting against the rockets tho because i dislike cp3 and harden even more.
― micah, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 21:57 (six years ago) link
the problem is with the salary cap and not w KD's salary
― YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 21:57 (six years ago) link
it was a perfect storm of the players rejecting cap smoothing, curry signed to an absurdly cheap contract and durant soft af
― micah, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 21:59 (six years ago) link
― YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, May 15, 2018 5:57 PM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I’ve seen people say things like this but idgi — explain?
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 15 May 2018 22:00 (six years ago) link
the absence of an unbeatable dynasty is an anomaly in nba history & as far as those go the warriors are pretty tight
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 15 May 2018 22:01 (six years ago) link
― k3vin k., Tuesday, May 15, 2018 6:00 PM (thirty-two seconds ago) Bookmark
that KD was only forced to take less to sign w/ golden state bcuz of the cap?
a major purpose of the cap is to prevent all the best players from getting sucked up into a couple superteams but it also means that if a team manages to do that anyway there's literally no way to beat them
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 22:02 (six years ago) link
kd going full mercenery and signing w/ a team that won 73 games was definitely the least cool thing
― Clay, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 22:07 (six years ago) link
but conversely, if there's no cap, then the team that sucks up all the best players is... still unbeatable?
― A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 22:07 (six years ago) link
like if mike quit on the bulls in 91 and joined the isaiah / dumars / rodman pistons idk how kind we'd be to him
― Clay, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 22:09 (six years ago) link
the celtics have maybe accumulated enough talent to do it? but they're paying their max contract to gordon hayward instead of steph curry so their ceiling still isn't as high
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 22:11 (six years ago) link
― A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, May 15, 2018 6:07 PM (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah the argument falls apart pretty quickly
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 15 May 2018 22:13 (six years ago) link
i think it's important to remember that durant didn't join an unbeatable team. he made the team unbeatable. you could just as easily celebrate that!
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 15 May 2018 22:19 (six years ago) link
the reasons people stopped liking the warriors are pretty obvious tho:1) their minor heel turn in the 2016 offs w/ dray's nut hunting, steph throwing his mouthguard at the refs etc2) KD signing with an already championship level team3) the circumstances of the kawhi injury last year
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 22:20 (six years ago) link
also the bay area billionaires at oracle
― Clay, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 22:21 (six years ago) link
that was part of #1
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 22:22 (six years ago) link
and all the owners are mostly gross but lacob can be particularly hard to take
― Clay, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 22:22 (six years ago) link
also part of #1, the 'light-years ahead' quote or whatever was the moment when their PR started to fall apart
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 22:24 (six years ago) link
maybe the warriors should make a commercial to air during the finals where they all apologize to us and tell us how they understand our concerns but they've changed and are turning it around
― Clay, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 22:26 (six years ago) link
He took a little less to sign with the dubs and he re-upped for a little less again to free up space for iggy/liv signings. There saying this year he’ll be taking the max or close to it. Klay taking way less than market value is a bigger story imo. Also if they didn’t sign kd they woulda had to give that money to h Barnes who more or less single Handedly lost the 2016 finals. Kd wasn’t a fan of playing w russ and for Donovan. Everyone involved made the right move. Having said that, if it wasn’t my team I’d be rolling my eyes at is as well.
― they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 22:29 (six years ago) link
They’re*It’s not like kd took the vets minimum. They paid him slightly more than what they would’ve offered hb.
― they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 22:30 (six years ago) link