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i do also wonder if there's something to the idea of rhythm when it comes to off ball shooters, and how that's effected by an increase in isolation play by ball handlers. i guess we'll see what the shooting percentages of tucker/ariza/gordon etc look like at the end of the series

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 15 May 2018 18:37 (six years ago) link

yeah i agree ariza foul trouble throws a wrench to the analysis of last night xp

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 15 May 2018 18:37 (six years ago) link

just think you've got to mix it up. altho it seemed every time they tried something else last night it ended in a turnover.

― they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Tuesday, May 15, 2018 2:34 PM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

they don't really have experience doing anything else in the reg season so this isn't surprising.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 18:38 (six years ago) link

i do also wonder if there's something to the idea of rhythm when it comes to off ball shooters, and how that's effected by an increase in isolation play by ball handlers. i guess we'll see what the shooting percentages of tucker/ariza/gordon etc look like at the end of the series

― J0rdan S., Tuesday, May 15, 2018 11:37 AM (thirty-six seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is the reason kerr only uses isos and pnr when they have to. keeps the other players engaged on both ends.

they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 18:38 (six years ago) link

just think you've got to mix it up. altho it seemed every time they tried something else last night it ended in a turnover.

― they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Tuesday, May 15, 2018 2:34 PM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

they don't really have experience doing anything else in the reg season so this isn't surprising.

― call all destroyer, Tuesday, May 15, 2018 11:38 AM (thirty-six seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah true. we're probably just overreacting to game 1. that method got them a ton of dominant wins and the 1 seed. i think the rox will win game 2 pretty handily.

they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 18:40 (six years ago) link

re: variance, it's tough to play slow when you're the far inferior defensive team and expect to have good results. a good way to increase variance would be to replace chris paul 2s with 3s from other shooters.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 18:42 (six years ago) link

good lord KD looked unstoppable at times last night. Murderer's row from midrange.

Joe Gargan (dandydonweiner), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 18:45 (six years ago) link

CP took 7 3s last night

they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 18:47 (six years ago) link

thought Klay was really effective on him, always has been

they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 18:47 (six years ago) link

kevon looney's D was... really good

, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 18:50 (six years ago) link

really? i didn't think he was doing much.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 18:51 (six years ago) link

never left his feet

i also like how it seems all NBA players have learned to jump around a 3 shooter to avoid fouling them on the contest

, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 18:51 (six years ago) link

yeah looney was really solid, got blown by a couple times but so did everyone else. he's prob the best big they have against the pnr (outside of dray)

they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 18:52 (six years ago) link

nothing worse than the pervasive flopping that goes on by players who bomb fadeaway threes and somehow must hit the floor on a touch foul

Joe Gargan (dandydonweiner), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 18:54 (six years ago) link

think we discussed on here but one reason (some) players do it is to allow for a softer landing on your feet if you feel someone is encroaching your landing zone. avoids the ankle sprains. it does get extreme tho yea

they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 18:56 (six years ago) link

Pj Tucker and Luc combined 0-9 last night. luc looked like he was playing to avoid re-injuring his shoulder, hes prob unplayable in this series if that's the case.

they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 18:59 (six years ago) link

yeah he didn't look like he should be on the floor. his 3s were way off.

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 15 May 2018 19:04 (six years ago) link

i've started kind of aggressively rooting for the rockets

what is this feeling should i go to the doctor

everyone is doing it

they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 20:22 (six years ago) link

another issue with attacking steph or looney on every posession is that it lets kd save all his energy for offense

micah, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 20:22 (six years ago) link

Warriors-Rockets was TNT’s most-watched Western Conference finals opener ever with 8.8 million viewers and most-watched West Game 1 on any network since Lakers/Kings in 2002.

— Brian Mahoney (@briancmahoney) May 15, 2018

they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 20:24 (six years ago) link

i've enjoyed the d'antoni rockets greatly, but i don't think i ever /rooted/ for them until these playoffs due to like, psychic scars from their last dwight year, when they were one of the most excruciating-to-watch constantly televised teams ever (and thus inescapable if you lacked league pass & watched national games to get yr fix)

i was even rooting for them against the underdog wolves bc i thought we might see jimmy butler's spine shatter on live tv if thibs played him longer

last year's Rockets were the best watch in the league

ciderpress, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 20:40 (six years ago) link

infinite harden drive and kicks into 30ft 3s

ciderpress, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 20:40 (six years ago) link

i really don't understand the problem with the warriors

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 15 May 2018 21:45 (six years ago) link

incredibly talented team who plays a very exciting style of basketball?

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 15 May 2018 21:46 (six years ago) link

my problem with them is kd taking a big pay cut to play with them, it breaks the purpose of the salary cap from a viewer's perspective. the team was already talented and exciting 2 years ago, now it just feels like they've subverted the rules

ciderpress, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 21:55 (six years ago) link

it’s that they’re unbeatable

k3vin k., Tuesday, 15 May 2018 21:55 (six years ago) link

I mean I like watching them play a lot too but it sort of makes the playoffs pointless

k3vin k., Tuesday, 15 May 2018 21:56 (six years ago) link

the durant signing was pathetic. im rooting against the rockets tho because i dislike cp3 and harden even more.

micah, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 21:57 (six years ago) link

the problem is with the salary cap and not w KD's salary

it was a perfect storm of the players rejecting cap smoothing, curry signed to an absurdly cheap contract and durant soft af

micah, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 21:59 (six years ago) link

the problem is with the salary cap and not w KD's salary

― YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, May 15, 2018 5:57 PM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I’ve seen people say things like this but idgi — explain?

k3vin k., Tuesday, 15 May 2018 22:00 (six years ago) link

the absence of an unbeatable dynasty is an anomaly in nba history & as far as those go the warriors are pretty tight

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 15 May 2018 22:01 (six years ago) link

I’ve seen people say things like this but idgi — explain?

― k3vin k., Tuesday, May 15, 2018 6:00 PM (thirty-two seconds ago) Bookmark

that KD was only forced to take less to sign w/ golden state bcuz of the cap?

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 15 May 2018 22:01 (six years ago) link

a major purpose of the cap is to prevent all the best players from getting sucked up into a couple superteams but it also means that if a team manages to do that anyway there's literally no way to beat them

ciderpress, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 22:02 (six years ago) link

kd going full mercenery and signing w/ a team that won 73 games was definitely the least cool thing

Clay, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 22:07 (six years ago) link

but conversely, if there's no cap, then the team that sucks up all the best players is... still unbeatable?

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 22:07 (six years ago) link

like if mike quit on the bulls in 91 and joined the isaiah / dumars / rodman pistons idk how kind we'd be to him

Clay, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 22:09 (six years ago) link

the celtics have maybe accumulated enough talent to do it? but they're paying their max contract to gordon hayward instead of steph curry so their ceiling still isn't as high

ciderpress, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 22:11 (six years ago) link

but conversely, if there's no cap, then the team that sucks up all the best players is... still unbeatable?

― A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, May 15, 2018 6:07 PM (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah the argument falls apart pretty quickly

k3vin k., Tuesday, 15 May 2018 22:13 (six years ago) link

i think it's important to remember that durant didn't join an unbeatable team. he made the team unbeatable. you could just as easily celebrate that!

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 15 May 2018 22:19 (six years ago) link

the reasons people stopped liking the warriors are pretty obvious tho:
1) their minor heel turn in the 2016 offs w/ dray's nut hunting, steph throwing his mouthguard at the refs etc
2) KD signing with an already championship level team
3) the circumstances of the kawhi injury last year

ciderpress, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 22:20 (six years ago) link

also the bay area billionaires at oracle

Clay, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 22:21 (six years ago) link

that was part of #1

ciderpress, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 22:22 (six years ago) link

and all the owners are mostly gross but lacob can be particularly hard to take

Clay, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 22:22 (six years ago) link

also part of #1, the 'light-years ahead' quote or whatever was the moment when their PR started to fall apart

ciderpress, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 22:24 (six years ago) link

maybe the warriors should make a commercial to air during the finals where they all apologize to us and tell us how they understand our concerns but they've changed and are turning it around

Clay, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 22:26 (six years ago) link

He took a little less to sign with the dubs and he re-upped for a little less again to free up space for iggy/liv signings. There saying this year he’ll be taking the max or close to it. Klay taking way less than market value is a bigger story imo.

Also if they didn’t sign kd they woulda had to give that money to h Barnes who more or less single Handedly lost the 2016 finals. Kd wasn’t a fan of playing w russ and for Donovan. Everyone involved made the right move. Having said that, if it wasn’t my team I’d be rolling my eyes at is as well.

they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 22:29 (six years ago) link

They’re*

It’s not like kd took the vets minimum. They paid him slightly more than what they would’ve offered hb.

they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 22:30 (six years ago) link


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