hello friends it's the 2018 NBA Playoffs, a place where dreams GO 2 DIE

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and needless to say the rest of the defense is just hanging out in perfect position ready to do their thing

sprout god (lag∞n), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 15:50 (six years ago) link

one thing that wld prob help is if harden just went faster instead of dribbling a million times

sprout god (lag∞n), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 15:50 (six years ago) link

right that's what i mean about steph and the picks. when the cavs were really wearing him down i feel like his body was going through the meat grinder on switches bcuz he really needed to fight for position or else the cavs were going to score, whereas last night a lot of the picks/switches felt really perfunctory, like steph knew harden just wanted to line him up for a one on one and didn't need to worry about being out of position

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 15 May 2018 15:55 (six years ago) link

yuup

sprout god (lag∞n), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 16:20 (six years ago) link

it was a little odd that both teams were doing that from the jump. i guess it speaks to the intensity of the series but that kinda relentless hunting feels more like something from a game 6 to me or something.

― J0rdan S., Tuesday, May 15, 2018 6:29 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah kerr is smart, the rockets started by denying all the warriors normal actions so he just want to the kd mismatch to hopefully open things up, which it did by the last quarter. curry played really well, 8 assists and only 1 TO and no crazy forced shots, played like traditional pg game basically. defended well enough and got a couple key steals.

they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 16:30 (six years ago) link

crazy thing is that they didnt even use their most lethal play one time last night, the curry/kd pnr.

they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 16:30 (six years ago) link

if i were warriors coach i wld run the curry/kd pnr every play just to be obnoxious

sprout god (lag∞n), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 16:39 (six years ago) link

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call all destroyer, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 17:02 (six years ago) link

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they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 17:14 (six years ago) link

Harden was realllly bad on defense last night

they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 17:21 (six years ago) link

Sure, as the Rockets have shown, it’s a solid mathematical proposition over the course of a regular season. Letting two of the best isolation players in the NBA chuck up as many step-back threes as they possibly can and hoping the percentages break your way is a fine bet to make on a macro level. It’s a bet that can get you 65 wins and the one seed. The problem is it’s also a bet that leaves you with very little to do in the face of an opponent who so greatly reduces the margin for error. Shoot until your fingers are numb and the nylon is threadbare against the Warriors; they’ll just shoot right back.

i thought this was pretty otm, great 82 game season and all but all it takes is a 4-game dislocation and you're out :)

, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 17:45 (six years ago) link

rockets def all year scanned to me as a good reg season team that isn’t a real playoff threat

Clay, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 17:51 (six years ago) link

the presence of alltime great team is a pretty big factor in that formulation

sprout god (lag∞n), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 17:52 (six years ago) link

i mean the rox are the clear 2nd best team

sprout god (lag∞n), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 17:53 (six years ago) link

for sure just feels like I never took them seriously?

Clay, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 17:53 (six years ago) link

because the warriors exist?

sprout god (lag∞n), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 17:54 (six years ago) link

kinda a dinosaurs vs asteroid situation

Clay, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 17:54 (six years ago) link

maybe steph will fall down a well

sprout god (lag∞n), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 17:55 (six years ago) link

idk, i really like their talent and the defensive additions they made who can also space the floor. and iso scoring has a lot of value in the playoffs. the problem i'm seeing is that they really only play one style and can't shift to a faster, ball-movement offense when playing iso isn't effective. and despite the better defense overall they're very prone to easy mistakes even if they start off strong on a possession.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 17:56 (six years ago) link

a good reg season team that isn’t a real playoff threat

They're a top four team playoff for sure. That's why they're in the western conference finals. The eastern conference finals aren't as tough to play your way into. I'm pretty sure the Rockets would beat the Cavs and compete pretty well with the Celtics. They just aren't as put-together as GSW.

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 17:57 (six years ago) link

i think the bron/kyrie teams of past could probably take these rockets

, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 17:58 (six years ago) link

i mean it’s basically what goon was saying: the dubs exist therefore all is folly

Clay, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 17:59 (six years ago) link

2016 cavs vs 2018 rockets would be a fun 2k simulation I would dig

Clay, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 18:00 (six years ago) link

so scoring has a lot of value in the playoffs (but really shdnt be yr default)

sprout god (lag∞n), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 18:01 (six years ago) link

i

sprout god (lag∞n), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 18:01 (six years ago) link

right it can't be the only way you play

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 18:02 (six years ago) link

what happened to 7 seconds or less dantoni? they are so predictable this way. warriors can win playing a handful of different styles and the rockets have the players and tools to do it as well.

they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 18:02 (six years ago) link

their two best players won't play that style

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 18:03 (six years ago) link

yeah thats prob it

sprout god (lag∞n), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 18:03 (six years ago) link

kinda a dinosaurs vs asteroid situation

that's called Raptors vs LeBron now

frogbs, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 18:04 (six years ago) link

i mean credit to the rockets for finding the best way to mesh two iso-extraordinaire players, a combo everybody was doubting prior to the season

, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 18:04 (six years ago) link

mostly they did it by staggering minutes tho, which is prob not the ideal solution

sprout god (lag∞n), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 18:05 (six years ago) link

crazy thing is that they didnt even use their most lethal play one time last night, the curry/kd pnr.

― they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Tuesday, May 15, 2018 12:30 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark

most lethal play to me is just when they get KD the post on the right block and he just shoots that little twisting fadeaway. it's basically a lay up.

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 15 May 2018 18:09 (six years ago) link

yeah the only hope of defending that one is not letting him get to his spot

sprout god (lag∞n), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 18:12 (six years ago) link

which wld be possible under different circumstances

sprout god (lag∞n), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 18:13 (six years ago) link

most lethal play to me is just when they get KD the post on the right block and he just shoots that little twisting fadeaway. it's basically a lay up.

― J0rdan S., Tuesday, May 15, 2018 11:09 AM (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeh this is the fail safe

they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 18:17 (six years ago) link

what happened to 7 seconds or less dantoni? they are so predictable this way. warriors can win playing a handful of different styles and the rockets have the players and tools to do it as well.

― they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Tuesday, May 15, 2018 2:02 PM (fourteen minutes ago)

good coaches play to the strengths of their roster. I don't really buy the argument that iso-ball works in the regular season but not the playoffs -- and I'm not sure increasing variance (by slowing the game down and taking a ton of 3s) is necessarily a bad strategy against a team that, when healthy, is all-time great

k3vin k., Tuesday, 15 May 2018 18:29 (six years ago) link

did not really feel like the variance was that increased last night

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 15 May 2018 18:32 (six years ago) link

the rockets only shot four more 3s

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 15 May 2018 18:32 (six years ago) link

just think you've got to mix it up. altho it seemed every time they tried something else last night it ended in a turnover.

they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 18:34 (six years ago) link

ariza foul trouble really messed with their rotation last night. surprised dantoni tried out Nene. R Anderson probably wont see another minute in this series either.

they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 18:36 (six years ago) link

i do also wonder if there's something to the idea of rhythm when it comes to off ball shooters, and how that's effected by an increase in isolation play by ball handlers. i guess we'll see what the shooting percentages of tucker/ariza/gordon etc look like at the end of the series

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 15 May 2018 18:37 (six years ago) link

yeah i agree ariza foul trouble throws a wrench to the analysis of last night xp

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 15 May 2018 18:37 (six years ago) link

just think you've got to mix it up. altho it seemed every time they tried something else last night it ended in a turnover.

― they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Tuesday, May 15, 2018 2:34 PM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

they don't really have experience doing anything else in the reg season so this isn't surprising.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 18:38 (six years ago) link

i do also wonder if there's something to the idea of rhythm when it comes to off ball shooters, and how that's effected by an increase in isolation play by ball handlers. i guess we'll see what the shooting percentages of tucker/ariza/gordon etc look like at the end of the series

― J0rdan S., Tuesday, May 15, 2018 11:37 AM (thirty-six seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is the reason kerr only uses isos and pnr when they have to. keeps the other players engaged on both ends.

they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 18:38 (six years ago) link

just think you've got to mix it up. altho it seemed every time they tried something else last night it ended in a turnover.

― they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Tuesday, May 15, 2018 2:34 PM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

they don't really have experience doing anything else in the reg season so this isn't surprising.

― call all destroyer, Tuesday, May 15, 2018 11:38 AM (thirty-six seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah true. we're probably just overreacting to game 1. that method got them a ton of dominant wins and the 1 seed. i think the rox will win game 2 pretty handily.

they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 18:40 (six years ago) link

re: variance, it's tough to play slow when you're the far inferior defensive team and expect to have good results. a good way to increase variance would be to replace chris paul 2s with 3s from other shooters.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 18:42 (six years ago) link

good lord KD looked unstoppable at times last night. Murderer's row from midrange.

Joe Gargan (dandydonweiner), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 18:45 (six years ago) link

CP took 7 3s last night

they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 18:47 (six years ago) link

thought Klay was really effective on him, always has been

they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 18:47 (six years ago) link


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