like they shouldn't go acapela
― 21st savagery fox (m bison), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 03:19 (six years ago) link
hahaha nice
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 03:23 (six years ago) link
cool that c-webb is on tnt's in-game a-team now btw
― Clay, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 03:25 (six years ago) link
my current theory is that playing w/ dwight messes you up for life
― Clay, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 03:35 (six years ago) link
that game was some boring ass iso basketball
― micah, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 10:56 (six years ago) link
i really enjoyed that game actually. there was..... a lot of iso-ing but a good pace and some pretty fun back and forth shot making
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 15 May 2018 13:21 (six years ago) link
i didn't find it aesthetically pleasing but fascinating to watch all the mismatch hunting.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 13:25 (six years ago) link
that game was a pretty tidy illustration of the problem with playing the warriors... the rockets pretty much matched the warriors two best players last night (KD & klay) but man did the rockets role players look not ready for that stage/intensity at all. i guess it was an unusually weird game for ariza and he's Been There Before but damn they were shooting shit off the sides of the backboard and shit. i guess there will be games where gordon and ariza play well and they look legit but that looked a lot less like a team ready to push the warriors to the brink than i thought. and capela did not seem to make an impact last night aside from a few blocks.
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 15 May 2018 13:27 (six years ago) link
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, May 15, 2018 9:25 AM (one minute ago) Bookmark
it was a little odd that both teams were doing that from the jump. i guess it speaks to the intensity of the series but that kinda relentless hunting feels more like something from a game 6 to me or something.
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 15 May 2018 13:29 (six years ago) link
not every postgame thing i've read agrees but i thought capela was good at limiting draymond's help defense. draymond could not roam off of him out of fear of the lob. i felt like when capela was out of the game draymond started to get really disruptive on harden.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 14:04 (six years ago) link
https://deadspin.com/the-warriors-are-better-than-the-rockets-1826038408
i think this makes some interesting points about the rockets style of play
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 15 May 2018 15:37 (six years ago) link
yeah the rockets deciding to make the fewest passes in the entire league was an interesting choice
― sprout god (lag∞n), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 15:41 (six years ago) link
hot potato ball movement is such a hallmark of championship teams
― sprout god (lag∞n), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 15:42 (six years ago) link
and it makes great one on one players like harden and paul that much more effective when they receive the ball with a positional advantage
― sprout god (lag∞n), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 15:43 (six years ago) link
i turned on the game last night in the early second half and the warriors were only up by a few but it still had a total stressful horror movie vibe so i turned it off
― sprout god (lag∞n), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 15:45 (six years ago) link
also i hadn't really thought about the idea that hunting steph out when the warriors are on defense isn't as really as effective when harden is just iso-ing him at the top of the key
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 15 May 2018 15:46 (six years ago) link
harden will prob score a lot but the point is more to wear steph out & if you're not banging him in the post or putting his body thru screens he has to fight thru then what's really the point? harden can score on anyone
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 15 May 2018 15:48 (six years ago) link
yeah going against a totally set up prepared defender who you have a theoretical advantage over prob isnt any better than going against a superior defender who you encounter on the move
― sprout god (lag∞n), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 15:49 (six years ago) link
and needless to say the rest of the defense is just hanging out in perfect position ready to do their thing
― sprout god (lag∞n), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 15:50 (six years ago) link
one thing that wld prob help is if harden just went faster instead of dribbling a million times
right that's what i mean about steph and the picks. when the cavs were really wearing him down i feel like his body was going through the meat grinder on switches bcuz he really needed to fight for position or else the cavs were going to score, whereas last night a lot of the picks/switches felt really perfunctory, like steph knew harden just wanted to line him up for a one on one and didn't need to worry about being out of position
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 15 May 2018 15:55 (six years ago) link
yuup
― sprout god (lag∞n), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 16:20 (six years ago) link
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, May 15, 2018 6:29 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah kerr is smart, the rockets started by denying all the warriors normal actions so he just want to the kd mismatch to hopefully open things up, which it did by the last quarter. curry played really well, 8 assists and only 1 TO and no crazy forced shots, played like traditional pg game basically. defended well enough and got a couple key steals.
― they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 16:30 (six years ago) link
crazy thing is that they didnt even use their most lethal play one time last night, the curry/kd pnr.
if i were warriors coach i wld run the curry/kd pnr every play just to be obnoxious
― sprout god (lag∞n), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 16:39 (six years ago) link
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― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 17:02 (six years ago) link
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― they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 17:14 (six years ago) link
Harden was realllly bad on defense last night
― they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 17:21 (six years ago) link
Sure, as the Rockets have shown, it’s a solid mathematical proposition over the course of a regular season. Letting two of the best isolation players in the NBA chuck up as many step-back threes as they possibly can and hoping the percentages break your way is a fine bet to make on a macro level. It’s a bet that can get you 65 wins and the one seed. The problem is it’s also a bet that leaves you with very little to do in the face of an opponent who so greatly reduces the margin for error. Shoot until your fingers are numb and the nylon is threadbare against the Warriors; they’ll just shoot right back.
i thought this was pretty otm, great 82 game season and all but all it takes is a 4-game dislocation and you're out :)
― 龜, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 17:45 (six years ago) link
rockets def all year scanned to me as a good reg season team that isn’t a real playoff threat
― Clay, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 17:51 (six years ago) link
the presence of alltime great team is a pretty big factor in that formulation
― sprout god (lag∞n), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 17:52 (six years ago) link
i mean the rox are the clear 2nd best team
― sprout god (lag∞n), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 17:53 (six years ago) link
for sure just feels like I never took them seriously?
― Clay, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 17:53 (six years ago) link
because the warriors exist?
― sprout god (lag∞n), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 17:54 (six years ago) link
kinda a dinosaurs vs asteroid situation
― Clay, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 17:54 (six years ago) link
maybe steph will fall down a well
― sprout god (lag∞n), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 17:55 (six years ago) link
idk, i really like their talent and the defensive additions they made who can also space the floor. and iso scoring has a lot of value in the playoffs. the problem i'm seeing is that they really only play one style and can't shift to a faster, ball-movement offense when playing iso isn't effective. and despite the better defense overall they're very prone to easy mistakes even if they start off strong on a possession.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 17:56 (six years ago) link
a good reg season team that isn’t a real playoff threat
They're a top four team playoff for sure. That's why they're in the western conference finals. The eastern conference finals aren't as tough to play your way into. I'm pretty sure the Rockets would beat the Cavs and compete pretty well with the Celtics. They just aren't as put-together as GSW.
― A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 17:57 (six years ago) link
i think the bron/kyrie teams of past could probably take these rockets
― 龜, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 17:58 (six years ago) link
i mean it’s basically what goon was saying: the dubs exist therefore all is folly
― Clay, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 17:59 (six years ago) link
2016 cavs vs 2018 rockets would be a fun 2k simulation I would dig
― Clay, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 18:00 (six years ago) link
so scoring has a lot of value in the playoffs (but really shdnt be yr default)
― sprout god (lag∞n), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 18:01 (six years ago) link
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right it can't be the only way you play
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 18:02 (six years ago) link
what happened to 7 seconds or less dantoni? they are so predictable this way. warriors can win playing a handful of different styles and the rockets have the players and tools to do it as well.
― they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 18:02 (six years ago) link
their two best players won't play that style
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 18:03 (six years ago) link
yeah thats prob it
― sprout god (lag∞n), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 18:03 (six years ago) link
that's called Raptors vs LeBron now
― frogbs, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 18:04 (six years ago) link
i mean credit to the rockets for finding the best way to mesh two iso-extraordinaire players, a combo everybody was doubting prior to the season
― 龜, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 18:04 (six years ago) link
mostly they did it by staggering minutes tho, which is prob not the ideal solution
― sprout god (lag∞n), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 18:05 (six years ago) link