ha the playoffs are good
― lag∞n, Saturday, 5 May 2018 04:59 (six years ago) link
That slo-mo is beautiful. The way the spotlights converge on them just as their bodies meet. I wish they had to play against each other every game.
― Fetchboy, Saturday, 5 May 2018 06:19 (six years ago) link
i think the problem w/ the fultz/tatum trade is that not just that tatum is probably better than fultz -- though that is bad -- but that in philly's system they'd be playing the same exact role. fultz is nominally a PG but with simmons & embiid entrenched his time spent dominating the ball will be very minimal. he is very long for a PG and was a great shooter in college so he can play off the ball and fit w/ their length on defense but uh... that all describes tatum too! it just seems like not only did they misevaluate the players but also didn't quite understand how either would function on their team, which i think is worse.
― J0rdan S., Friday, May 4, 2018 5:07 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah goo point
― lag∞n, Friday, May 4, 2018 5:08 PM (yesterday)
it is soooooo much easier to say this with the benefit of hindsight. the draft is a crapshoot
― k3vin k., Saturday, 5 May 2018 18:57 (six years ago) link
otm
― ciderpress, Saturday, 5 May 2018 19:09 (six years ago) link
the only people questioning the fultz pick at the time were people who thought lonzo was better
― ciderpress, Saturday, 5 May 2018 19:12 (six years ago) link
well except for
https://i.imgur.com/d5oMmWM.png
― lag∞n, Saturday, 5 May 2018 20:04 (six years ago) link
and thats who the sixers are competing against not tweeters or message board posters or whoever
― lag∞n, Saturday, 5 May 2018 20:06 (six years ago) link
also theres just looking at results, even if there is a lot of uncertainty in the draft some orgs tend to draft better, aaand in this case prob phillys biggest fuck up was giving up a very valuable pick to move up two spots for a player that if were talking about predraft consensus most ppl didnt think was anything special for a #1 pick
― lag∞n, Saturday, 5 May 2018 20:12 (six years ago) link
it cld end up being a franchise defining fuck up, now philly needs to fill holes via free agency where they cld easily have been stacked w homegrown talent
― lag∞n, Saturday, 5 May 2018 20:16 (six years ago) link
Celtics were 9.5-point underdogs leading up to Game 3. Looks like only two other times this season that the Celtics were bigger underdogs: Jan. 27 at Golden State (L, 109-105)March 28 at Utah (W, 97-94)— Chris Forsberg (@ESPNForsberg) May 5, 2018
― lag∞n, Saturday, 5 May 2018 20:36 (six years ago) link
― lag∞n, Saturday, May 5, 2018 4:04 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― lag∞n, Saturday, May 5, 2018 4:06 PM (one hour ago)
sure some front offices are better than others, but on draft night we are still talking about a shift in percentages rather than one guy knowing what he's talking about and the other guy having no clue. and this doesn't even begin to consider the advantage teams like the celtics with great organizational direction and coaching/training staffs have. nor does it take into account the vagaries of circumstance, namely that if the Cs prize free agent didn't break his leg 5 minutes into the season, and if fultz didn't fall in with that weirdo and forget how to shoot, the narrative could look a lot different
― k3vin k., Saturday, 5 May 2018 21:11 (six years ago) link
fultz could still end up being the best player in the draft
― they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Saturday, 5 May 2018 21:17 (six years ago) link
simmons just took a shot from outside 8 feet!
― they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Saturday, 5 May 2018 21:18 (six years ago) link
― Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 5 May 2018 21:28 (six years ago) link
I’m actually watching this game because my gf is out of town it’s like old times
― Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 5 May 2018 21:29 (six years ago) link
When has a player ever had a start this worrying and turned out to be the best player in his draft― Matt Armstrong, Saturday, May 5, 2018 2:28 PM (eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permal
never but we've never had a start like this so it's hard to really know how this is gonna turn out.
― they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Saturday, 5 May 2018 21:38 (six years ago) link
I think it’s a not entirely different start from Anthony Bennett
― Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 5 May 2018 21:42 (six years ago) link
philly has come out w some absolutely pitiful energy here, not sure ive ever seem quite like this in a home game 3, the fans are totally silent too lol whats goin on
― lag∞n, Saturday, 5 May 2018 21:45 (six years ago) link
they look shoook!
― they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Saturday, 5 May 2018 21:45 (six years ago) link
sure some front offices are better than others, but on draft night we are still talking about a shift in percentages rather than one guy knowing what he's talking about and the other guy having no clue.
― k3vin k., Saturday, May 5, 2018 5:11 PM (thirty-three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
lol is that a fact
― lag∞n, Saturday, 5 May 2018 21:46 (six years ago) link
and this doesn't even begin to consider the advantage teams like the celtics with great organizational direction and coaching/training staffs have. nor does it take into account the vagaries of circumstance, namely that if the Cs prize free agent didn't break his leg 5 minutes into the season, and if fultz didn't fall in with that weirdo and forget how to shoot, the narrative could look a lot different
― k3vin k., Saturday, May 5, 2018 5:11 PM (thirty-five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
wut
― lag∞n, Saturday, 5 May 2018 21:47 (six years ago) link
tatum started opening night btw
brad leading the charge for leaving a player w 3 fouls in the 2nd q in the game
― they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Saturday, 5 May 2018 21:49 (six years ago) link
the officiating itg has not been too great
― lag∞n, Saturday, 5 May 2018 21:50 (six years ago) link
If terry Rozier makes jumpshots he’s a really good player
― Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 5 May 2018 21:52 (six years ago) link
so proud of terry
― lag∞n, Saturday, 5 May 2018 21:56 (six years ago) link
celtics deciding to not cover shooters for no reason for a bit
― lag∞n, Saturday, 5 May 2018 21:58 (six years ago) link
Is Marcus smart a smarter basketball player than Javale
― Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 5 May 2018 22:06 (six years ago) link
brown has some nice ato plays
― micah, Saturday, 5 May 2018 22:07 (six years ago) link
jaylen's shot looks so good.
― they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Saturday, 5 May 2018 22:12 (six years ago) link
feel bad for the tv crew trying to will philly into showing some moxie
― lag∞n, Saturday, 5 May 2018 22:14 (six years ago) link
― Matt Armstrong, Saturday, May 5, 2018 6:06 PM (eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
marcus is... odd, but yes smarter than javale
― lag∞n, Saturday, 5 May 2018 22:15 (six years ago) link
man joel takes a ton of bad/unnecessarily difficult shots
― lag∞n, Saturday, 5 May 2018 22:35 (six years ago) link
Part of Smarts value is in making the right disruptive play at exactly the right moment. Have to imagine that requires a degree of smarts or instinct and Javale hasn't really shown anything like that kind of smarts... Smart.
― tsrobodo, Saturday, 5 May 2018 22:36 (six years ago) link
Marcus Smart does things that are just indefensibly crazy tho. As often as Javale does I think
― Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 5 May 2018 22:41 (six years ago) link
Idle thought I dunno what will happen with Fultz but I honestly think if i were a gm and someone holding the #1 pick is willing to trade it and move back I immediately assume I missed something important and hang up and rethink
The only time trading back from 1 seems to work are those massive football trades where you parlay it into an entir defensive line r whatever
― gritty tigger reboot (agent hibachi), Saturday, 5 May 2018 22:41 (six years ago) link
yeah especially when its the famous danny ainge, tho tbf philly did give up a lot
― lag∞n, Saturday, 5 May 2018 22:44 (six years ago) link
With Smart you can most of the time feel out a method to the madness. Javale's brain farts feel less intentional.
Still feels way to early for retrospectives on Fultz
― tsrobodo, Saturday, 5 May 2018 22:46 (six years ago) link
Bellini takes some terrible shots.
― Jeff, Saturday, 5 May 2018 22:53 (six years ago) link
this is not a playoff quality basketball game
― lag∞n, Saturday, 5 May 2018 22:54 (six years ago) link
ILH, the one place where every other game is 'not good basketball'.
― Van Horn Street, Saturday, 5 May 2018 23:01 (six years ago) link
hello whoever you are
― lag∞n, Saturday, 5 May 2018 23:02 (six years ago) link
the fix is in
a lot of missed shots from marcuses in this game
― ciderpress, Saturday, 5 May 2018 23:04 (six years ago) link
― lag∞n, Saturday, May 5, 2018 7:02 PM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
haha someone who believes the best basketball writing is on this very board
― Van Horn Street, Saturday, 5 May 2018 23:05 (six years ago) link
tatum is like +22 right now
― ciderpress, Saturday, 5 May 2018 23:05 (six years ago) link
Danny Ainge did offer 18 picks for justise Winslow
― Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 5 May 2018 23:05 (six years ago) link
it's true, i am bill simmons and i am #harvesting #content right now
xxp
― 21st savagery fox (m bison), Saturday, 5 May 2018 23:06 (six years ago) link
Matt ArmstrongPosted: May 5, 2018 at 5:05:52 PMDanny Ainge did offer 18 picks for justise Winslowwhy didnt anyone take them.......
― lag∞n, Saturday, 5 May 2018 23:07 (six years ago) link
I remember some guy on twitter tried to convince me Jaylen Brown was bad on defense. I think he’s wrong
― Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 5 May 2018 23:09 (six years ago) link