2017 NBA OFFSEASON

Most people won't leave any money on the table.

The best leave $500,000 on the table.

I have left $1,668,172-$5,845,172+ on the table.

aaa what the fuck is going on now

Sources: After Isaiah Thomas underwent physical today, Cavs still evaluating injured hip and weighing options w/ completion of Irving deal.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) August 26, 2017

Hella messy

this is gonna be a big setback for the celtics if we end up with an injured and angry IT

did Danny try and swindle them or

Of course he did. basically swap kyrie for the first pick

cavs fans not happy

LMFAOOOOOOOOOO AYE MAN. pic.twitter.com/8Y0G6LKkq8

— 🅱️🅱️🅱️ (@BBBaIIer) August 26, 2017

cleve angling 4 more pix

bad situation but i think celtics have gotta give em the pix

its lose-lose for celtics p much

cleve in a tuff spot too tho, guess it depends on really how bad ITs injury is

im sure the celtics will try to give them 2 2nd rnd picks, tho giving up one of their own wldnt be the end of the world, bottom 1st rounders r not that good

i have concluded that both teams are screwed and hornets will win the eastern conference

its sad but true

noel took the mavs qualifying offer, unrestricted free agent next summer

which, sry to editorialize here, seems very dumb

Yah multi year deal at the 17 per they were offering was good.

rip ilh fave player

Report: Pelicans’ Solomon Hill tears hamstring, could miss entire season https://t.co/LXRuXOk5o5

— Kurt Helin (@basketballtalk) August 27, 2017

that team is gonna be a disaster

evergreen posts

The Cavs will reportedly ask for Jason Tatum or Jaylen Brown to complete the Kyrie Irving trade. I say they should demand both!

wow

lol

cavs shd ask for a second rnd pick

lol it never hurts to ask

i would rather the celtics punt this season than trade either of those guys

theres no way theyre including them

cld see maybe one of the celtics own first round picks, but the cavs are in a tough spot here kyrie has said hes not showing up to training camp and no one has stepped up w an offer nearly as good as the celtics

both teams are in kind of a shitty spot but it seems the cavs have more leverage...

maybe danny can stonewall and get cleveland to accept the current deal, idk

the outcome that would lead to the most shit stirring drama would be the trade getting cancelled, ergo i am rooting for that outcome

idk abt leverage for this deal but cleveland is looking very fucked if isaiah is seriously injured, kyrie is basically boycotting until hes traded and they badly need to field a competitive team in order to have a shot at retaining bron, celtics on the other hand still have a bunch of draft picks to keep them warm

kinda all comes down to how injured isaiah is

the answer to all their problems is of course to trade bron

i wonder if accepting injured isaiah only to go back demanding more compensation once everyone in boston (fans etc) accepted kyrie into their lives was cleveland's plan all along...

it's not like it was a secret that IT had a very bad and potentially debilitating injury...

i disagree also that the cavs have less leverage. kyrie can posture all he wants about not showing up to training camp but the precedent for a star player of his caliber sitting out a season does not exist. if the cavs had to take him back and couldn't find a better deal he would play for them and they would make it back to the finals. he's not giving up $18 million because he doesn't wanna play with lebron anymore.

well he doesnt have to sit out to totally destroy clevelands season and franchise

it's not like it was a secret that IT had a very bad and potentially debilitating injury...

― J0rdan S., Monday, August 28, 2017 11:44 AM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah 17 dimensional chess and whatnot the cavs being actually freaked out by ITs injury once they got a look at it seems more likely to me, everyone knows that this deal with a healthy-ish IT is way better than anything the cavs were getting from anyone else, could actually make them better this year, and is good compared to historical allstar trades, blowing up a good deal with shenanigans seems unwise especially since theres no way the celtics are just throwing brown/tatum in

celtics maybe willing to throw them an inconsequential face saving piece/pick but like whatve you done then save face

lol cleve shd ask for rozier if they really want to fuck w ainge, ld actually help them and is p reasonable

well he doesnt have to sit out to totally destroy clevelands season and franchise

― lag∞n, Monday, August 28, 2017 11:55 AM (seven minutes ago) Bookmark

the scenario where kyrie plays for the cavs this year and they don't make the finals is like locker room drama of cataclysmic proportions. it's possible but that team has been thru a lot of drama and as far as the east goes it hasn't mattered.

cleveland is also being run by like the 4th guy in their front office under griffin, he did well on this deal and isn't wrong to try to leverage something here but let's not overcomplicate things he is very very green.

the scenario where kyrie plays for the cavs this year and they don't make the finals is like locker room drama of cataclysmic proportions. it's possible but that team has been thru a lot of drama and as far as the east goes it hasn't mattered.

― J0rdan S., Monday, August 28, 2017 12:03 PM (fifty-one seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

but wld that matter as far as bron leaving or not, i mean if its not true that hes gonna leave and making the finals and losing again wld be fine with him then cleveland is in a pretty chill spot, if his default position as of now is that hes gonna leave having their #2 guy be someone who hates him and is a locker room malcontent who is gonna score some points but just roll his eyes when bron yells at him for not doing the extra stuff that they need him to is prob not gonna help convince him to stay, likewise if hes on the fence then having kyrie around seems not great

clevelands willingness to fulfill kyries trade request makes me think were somewhere in the latter two possibilities, especially since getting that pick looks like insurance against a bronless future

so imo leverage in this deal is prob kinda a wash but cleve is just in a really shitty spot if IT cant go

that they're asking for more compensation and not trying to revoke the trade leads me to believe they thought this was a likely outcome going in

i'm not alleging 17 dimensional chess or anything but that it would be an interesting ploy to pry a little bit more out of the celtics

yeah cld be but if they think theyre getting anything more of serious value theyre dum

if IT is seriously injured they prob shdnt make the deal but then theyre just fucked lol sucks to be them, best bet wld prob be to hold on to kyrie and hope a better deal comes along, worse comes to worse they still have kyrie when bron bounces, just have to convince him they loved him all along lol

i guess holding out for a late 1st round pick is better than not having a late 1st round pick but its ultimately pretty inconsequential