2017 NBA OFFSEASON

feel like giannis is overrated tho ppls excitement abt is potential is warranted

also feel if u ran some sims (simulations) where u swapped bron and kds teams bron wld play better overall

idk, KD's been the better player imo stretching back to his MVP year

thats false as kd was injured for most of a season and didnt play up to his standard for much of the next

i mean the reason he didn't contend for MVP this year was purely due to his missed time

imo the conventional wisdom that bron is still who you want for a game or a series or a playoffs is correct tho eventually he will retire and die prob

it was also correct that he didnt deserve the mvp

kd def wldve been in the mix for mvp if he wasnt injured

if we're going to ding KD for missing time due to injury we at the very least have to take lebron's last 3 regular seasons where he wasn't trying at face value

i argued hard on this board for KD as the best all around player in that series and MVP, nonetheless i think the absolute peak performance lebron can or chooses to access 3-5 times per year is still the best in the NBA

the giannis ranking might be a place or two to high but in terms of two way impact i don't think it's a stretch to say he's top 10

j0rdan really hammering home these lebron 3-5 jokes

otm tho

i argued hard on this board for KD as the best all around player in that series and MVP, nonetheless i think the absolute peak performance lebron can or chooses to access 3-5 times per year is still the best in the NBA

― J0rdan S., Thursday, July 6, 2017 7:14 PM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i mean this doesn't really matter tho. bron played about as well as he could have in the finals and KD outplayed him.

turnovers and defense matter!!

one word: context, think abt it

lol that's an interesting way of waving away literally all the evidence in favor of your gut feeling that bron is just better

um its called understanding basketball

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anyway jordan plz enjoy this nice big boy

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Free agent Kelly Olynyk has agreed to a four-year, $50M-plus deal with the Miami Heat, agent Greg Lawrence tells ESPN.

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Rudy gay to spurs, 2 and 17

Honestly, it's not a bad move for the money. Backing up kawhi, makes their bench with patty (and manu?) more powerful offensively

id image theyre thinking of playing a bunch of smallball w kawhi and rudy together

p great deal either way

Big upgrade from kyle anderson

warriors signing nick young puts them past the 'what could possibly go wrong' line which means of course everything will go wrong next season imo

theyre due, what will prob happen is steph will retire to play cricket

The thing w gay is... he tore his Achilles and no ones seen him play since so he may actually be worse than slo mo

If the dubs retain McGee as well then the karma ball gods may indeed frown upon us

rudy gay is, for me, basically an avatar of yesterday's nba

huh didnt realize that not up on rudy gay news xp

The thing w gay is... he tore his Achilles and no ones seen him play since so he may actually be worse than slo mo

― down that brown path (Spottie), Thursday, July 6, 2017 7:46 PM (twelve minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Or, if the documentary rookie of the year teaches us anything, it's that freak injuries often lead to extraordinary athletic improvement

i argued hard on this board for KD as the best all around player in that series and MVP, nonetheless i think the absolute peak performance lebron can or chooses to access 3-5 times per year is still the best in the NBA

― J0rdan S., Thursday, July 6, 2017 7:14 PM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i mean this doesn't really matter tho. bron played about as well as he could have in the finals and KD outplayed him.

turnovers and defense matter!!

― k3vin k., Thursday, July 6, 2017 7:20 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark

well i think lebron was better than KD in the final two games of the series. in game 5 he put up 41/13/8 with two steals, a block and two TO. in that game KD put up 39/6/5 with 4 turnovers. in game 4 bron put up 31/10/11 with two turnovers. KD put up 35/4/4 with 1 turnover. even in game 3 you could argue bron was better. as far as turnovers go, bron had 8 turnovers to KD's 0 on in the first game. after that bron had 13 and KD had 11.

i would have voted for KD as MVP and i do think he was the best player in the series. but i think it's much closer than you're making it sound. lebron could not match him in the first two games, and i think watching them it felt as if he had chosen not to.

the kelly o contract seems fairly reasonable for the heat. it's definitely a good fit on the court.

i think the heat got unlucky when cp3 left the clippers so early, which meant the clippers were gonna give blake the 5 year crazy max. maxing out w/ kelly o, waiters & james johnson is def... interesting but i don't think they had many options. and it is a playoff team that could make the second round depending on the matchup.

idk that collection of contracts could go blazers pretty quickly.

read an article the other day about their fading ability to attract major free agency and i don't think it mentioned that the window where they could do that coincided with wade being there a lot more than it did with riley or spo.

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― lag∞n, Thursday, July 6, 2017 4:47 PM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

me 2

anyway NYK offer sheet to Hardaway Jr 4/71

can't imagine atl matches

btw a friend of mine told me the other day that portland will be fine bc "we have three of the top 10 players in the league if nurkic is healthy!" and like this is an article of faith among the blind around here

idk that collection of contracts could go blazers pretty quickly.

the blazers' real problem is that they're in the west instead of the east

idk spending a quarter of a billio dollars on turner, leonard, crabbe, harkless and ezili over a couple of days is kind of a problem if you're on the damn moon much less this side of the mississippi

it's not ideal but the cap space has to go somewhere, and there will always be middle class teams in the nba. the problem is that middle class in the nba is fighting for the 7th/8th seed in the west, whereas in the east it might be a comfortable playoff birth, which a lot of teams would take!

cap space is one thing but once they get into that repeater tax the panic can set in for management

the blazers problem is that in a salary cap league you have to be able to change your team without wrecking it. when you're loaded up with unappealing players and/or unappealing contracts and all ppl talk about is how you might have to trade your 2nd-best player to change your team, that's a problem. if the heat have a real shot at a star in the near future but can't get anyone interested in taking on waiters/johnson/olynyk they're going to have the same problem.

another problem is that being stuck in that 7th-8th spot in the west year after year is just abt the worst place you can be in the league. no chance of winning more than one or two playoff games per annum coupled with no real chance of improving through the draft (unless you're san antonio). throw in half the team being toxic assets and being in tax territory keeping FA search as a pipe dream and idk it's a garbage position. mortgaged half a decade on evan turner and allen crabbe!

the blazers had a really tough path to navigate when they developed non-complimentary backcourt talent and no frontcourt talent of note. a lot of people miscalculated the cap situation going into last summer but olshey (who i like) might have been the worst offender.

it would have been interesting to see someone like morey run the blazers 2 years ago because in retrospect they should have made a very weird/aggressive/unexpected move

if nurkic stays healthy they could be better than a 7/8 seed this year. everyone on the team should be better minus turner

i think mostly everything they did was defensible aside from turner, which was truly inexplicable. crabbe's contract is insane but he at least presents an identifiable and valuable skill, they just got caught in the wrong year with him.