2017 NBA OFFSEASON

dubs/cavs still one injury away from being vulnerable imho

cavs yes, dubs no. they'd need two major injuries to be seriously threatened in a playoff series.

ur trippin

yeah dubs would be ok.

they coasted without KD

adding fn swaggy p isnt that great folks lol

curry just engaged god-mode

swaggy > matt barnes
Casspi > Ian Clark

take steph or kd off the warriors as presently constructed and they still win 60+ games and have home court advantage throughout the playoffs. hell, dubs sans KD is basically the 2015 nba championship team. plus more bench shooting with swaggy and omri.

they did not coast w/o kd, also the regular season isnt the offs

yeah disagree with lagoon, they could probably still win the title with an injury to any one of steph, KD, or dray

not WILL, but they'd be favorites to. what's their competition?

exactly

you all have dubs mania lol which is warranted but only because they have the best players, however if you take away those players they wldnt be as good

they did not coast w/o kd, also the regular season isnt the offs

― lag∞n, Wednesday, July 5, 2017 12:38 PM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

he sat in the playoffs too

no one is arguing they wouldn't be AS good

hell, dubs sans KD is basically the 2015 nba championship team. plus more bench shooting with swaggy and omri.

― nice cage (m bison), Wednesday, July 5, 2017 3:37 PM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is extremely untrue

they've already shown they can be defeated without KD, they'd still be favorites but by a small margin rather than a big one

yeah that team still had two valuable starters that are gone now. xp

swaggy > matt barnes
Casspi > Ian Clark

― down that brown path (Spottie), Wednesday, July 5, 2017 3:36 PM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

like a couple of these guys will end up being nice on the dubs but theyre not actually good players theres a reason they were available and if any of them are asked to step up because of an injury against a good team in the playoffs it wont be pretty

yeah that team still had two valuable starters that are gone now. xp

― down that brown path (Spottie), Wednesday, July 5, 2017 2:42 PM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

now u know why i hedged with the qualifier "basically"

insufficient

tho i my defense, harrison barnes was less than useless in the playoffs and bogut doesnt count as a person imo

barnes was very key on D

dubs w/o kd or dray wld be so flammable, they cld prob stand to lose steph a lil better but they wld def suffer from a playmaking perspective, klay wld be the easiest to lose

rockets wld prob put up 150 a game v them sans either kd/dray

not WILL, but they'd be favorites to. what's their competition?

― k3vin k., Wednesday, July 5, 2017 2:39 PM (nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

exactly

― down that brown path (Spottie), Wednesday, July 5, 2017 2:40 PM (eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is basically it tho 4 me.

then it's settled, the FTC should be consulted at once to break up the warriors monopoly on having all the nba players

rockets wld prob put up 150 a game v them sans either kd/dray

― lag∞n, Wednesday, July 5, 2017 2:49 PM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

and theyd still lose bc dantoni aint shit in the playoffs ever

dantoni has a couple ring in a very closely related universe to this one

dantoni had kind of a tragic career arc im glad he's getting one more chance with a good team

those suns teams had the worst playoff luck ever and no one talks about it cause i guess the suns dont have fans or something

bad luck takes fall off and a re forgotten over time, suns fans havent forgotten tho

there is deep hatred for Robert Horry here.

those suns teams were unreal, even more than the warriors it felt like they were playing a different game than everyone else

heh but horry aside i mean making shots is part of the game but just the injuries and suspensions they had really sucked

also the kpbe airball into artests hands in 08

Clips, looking to bolster wing after Redick departure/Crawford trade, have engaged Grizzlies in potential s/t for Tony Allen, per source.

— David Aldridge (@daldridgetnt) July 5, 2017

http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=14804527

via sam amico:

Four days after free agency began and a lot of top names have moved on, plenty of players that can help a team remain. Here is a position-by-position look (age in parentheses):

Unrestricted

CENTERS

Chris Andersen (39)
Joel Anthony (35)
Aron Baynes (31)
Tarik Black (26)
Andrew Bogut (33)
Dewayne Dedmon (28)
Festus Ezeli (28)
Pau Gasol (37)
Roy Hibbert (31)
Jordan Hill (30)
JaVale McGee (29)
Kelly Olynyk (26)
Zaza Pachulia (33)
Larry Sanders (29)
Marreese Speights (30)
Tiago Splitter (32)
Anderson Varejao (35)
Jeff Withey (27)
Tyler Zeller (27)
Stephen Zimmerman (21)

POWER FORWARDS

Lavoy Allen (28)
Brandon Bass (32)
Michael Beasley (28)
Nick Collison (37)
Dante Cunningham (30)
Udonis Haslem (37)
Kris Humphries (32)
Ersan Ilyasova (30)
Jonas Jerebko (30)
James Johnson (30)
Terrence Jones (25)
David Lee (34)
James McAdoo (24)
Donatas Motiejunas (27)
Mike Muscala (26)
Maurice Ndour (25)
Dirk Nowitzki (39)
Adreian Payne (26)
Willie Reed (27)
Thomas Robinson (26)
Luis Scola (37)
Jared Sullinger (25)
Anthony Tolliver (32)
Derrick Williams (26)
Christian Wood (22)

SMALL FORWARDS

Alan Anderson (35)
Luke Babbitt (28)
Matt Barnes (37)
Vince Carter (40)
Mike Dunleavy (37)
Rudy Gay (31)
Alonzo Gee (30)
Gerald Green (31)
Jeff Green (31)
James Jones (37)
Luc Mbah a Moute (31)
K.J. McDaniels (24)
Shabazz Muhammad (25)
Steve Novak (34)
Alex Poythress (24)
Damjan Rudez (31)
Troy Williams (23)
Metta World Peace (38)

SHOOTING GUARDS

Arron Afflalo (32)
Tony Allen (35)
Leandro Barbosa (35)
Anthony Brown (25)
Reggie Bullock (26)
Ian Clark (26)
Tyreke Evans (28)
Randy Foye (34)
Manu Ginobili (40)
Gerald Henderson (30)
Darrun Hilliard (24)
Dahntay Jones (37)
Jordan McRae (26)
C.J. Miles (30)
Anthony Morrow (32)
Gary Neal (33)
Brandon Rush (32)
Thabo Sefolosha (33)
Rodney Stuckey (31)
Jason Terry (40)
Hollis Thompson (26)
Marcus Thornton (30)
Sasha Vujacic (33)
Dion Waiters (26)
C.J. Wilcox (27)
James Young (22)

POINT GUARDS

Aaron Brooks (32)
Bobby Brown (33)
Trey Burke (25)
Isaiah Canaan (26)
Mario Chalmers (31)
Norris Cole (29)
Toney Douglas (31)
Tyler Ennis (23)
Jordan Farmar (31)
Raymond Felton (33)
Marcelo Huertas (34)
Jarrett Jack (34)
Brandon Jennings (28)
Ty Lawson (30)
Shelvin Mack (27)
Ronnie Price (34)
Brian Roberts (32)
Sergio Rodriguez (31)
Rajon Rondo (31)
Derrick Rose (29)
Ramon Sessions (31)
Beno Udrih (35)
Greivis Vasquez (30)
Deron Williams (33)

Restricted

CENTERS

Joffrey Lauvergne (26)
Alex Len (24)
Nerlens Noel (23)

POWER FORWARDS

JaMychal Green (27)
Nikola Mirotic (26)
Mason Plumlee (27)
Alan Williams (24)

SMALL FORWARDS

Bojan Bogdanovic (28)
Andre Roberson (26)

SHOOTING GUARDS

Kentavious Caldwell-Pope (24)
Tim Hardaway Jr. (25)
Jonathon Simmons (28)

that is a shitload of players

they will all have to retire as all the money has already been given to evan turner and ian mahinmi

that PG crop is BADDDD

it is but to be fair most of the good PGs have starting jobs already and the few decent FAs (Teague and Holiday) have signed.

i think given how capped out so many teams are, there is going to be a lot of value to be had at vets minimums. teams that laid low were smart.

yah, not too many dumb contracts this year so far!

teams already used up most of their dumb contract quota last year tho

yup

i didnt know Jrue re-signed. 5/126 is fair if (big IF) he stays healthy. gentry needs to work out what they are gonna do on offense cos he was lost after they added boogie.

Indiana has waived guard Monta Ellis, league sources tell The Vertical.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) July 5, 2017

OK IF HE GOES TO THE WARRIORS ALL IS FORGIVEN SRSLY

quick, they need to sign baron, jason richardson, andris biedrins< LESSSS GOOOO

no one wants monta in his current state