||| WARRIORS ||| CAVALIERS ||| NBA ||| FINALS ||| 2017 ||| PART ||| 3 |||

easy to forget now but really up until lebron clearly like singlehandedly vanquished the thunder in the finals people were still saying that wade was going to be the driving force behind leading the heat to a title, that lebron needed him etc

the difference is really just about likability and i guess narrative, bc no one likes the OG warriors core trio and no one really was wishing and hoping to see these guys finally win another ring after last year's tragic setback.

― nomar, Tuesday, June 13, 2017 12:43 PM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm

idk I think you can hold that view as a basketball fan who thinks (as I do) that the NBA playoffs are the single greatest event in pro sports. as much as I can appreciate watching what is probably the greatest team of all time it takes all the drama out of the playoffs and quite frankly I don't think "historically great team adds Kevin Durant" is a particularly great storyline

that said I don't think less of Durant for doing it, especially after they let Harden walk. I just think its a good argument for why judging players solely on how many rings they won is dumb. which y'all knew already.

i was trying to remember back to why people turned on the warriors and was it like... the owner is annoying and people started associating them w/ silicon valley?

easy to forget now but really up until lebron clearly like singlehandedly vanquished the thunder in the finals people were still saying that wade was going to be the driving force behind leading the heat to a title, that lebron needed him etc

lol that was pure Lebron hate for "The Decision", I don't see how anyone who watched that team regularly could have come to that conclusion

my favorite take during the finals was Stephen A saying that LeBron can't be considered the GOAT if the cavs were swept by the dubs...so i guess LeBron is now safely in the running for GOAT?

people were slandering lebron's game straight up

tbh all the arguments that 'this was unprecedented' feel as old and bad as the baseball 'we can't change the rules or anything else because it's BASEBALL' arguments. everybody in sports does whatever they can get away with and oftentimes more. there's no "elite player can't join the team with the best win record" rule. that's fake news

i was trying to remember back to why people turned on the warriors and was it like... the owner is annoying and people started associating them w/ silicon valley?

― J0rdan S., Tuesday, June 13, 2017 5:49 PM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

maybe that was some of it but i think all of the ecstatic happiness that team was conveying after coming out of nowhere and winning the title kinda curdled in the eyes of NBA fans and came off badly when they turned into a juggernaut.

it's funny though bc i remember steph's dagger shot and swagger against the thunder last season was a point where i personally was like "oh it'll be fun to watch these dudes lose" though i never thought it was possible

see to me steph is an incredibly unique and fun player, i don't see how anyone can dislike him

tbh all the arguments that 'this was unprecedented' feel as old and bad as the baseball 'we can't change the rules or anything else because it's BASEBALL' arguments. everybody in sports does whatever they can get away with and oftentimes more. there's no "elite player can't join the team with the best win record" rule. that's fake news

well to be fair the reason why it's so unprecedented is because situations like this pretty much never come up, how many times is the consensus best team able to take on a max contract when a historically great player in their prime just happen to be up for free agency.

i think people turned on steph cuz they felt like they would be able to beat him up

that's why i turned on lebron, bosh, and wade all at once

well to be fair the reason why it's so unprecedented is because situations like this pretty much never come up, how many times is the consensus best team able to take on a max contract when a historically great player in their prime just happen to be up for free agency.

― frogbs, Tuesday, June 13, 2017 12:57 PM (one minute ago) Bookmark

as i said before almost never, which is why we should all ride the wave and be glad it happened

i dont think ive turned on curry, he has the right to do gross things with his mouth guard bc he is a basketball supergenius

i love curry and watching him play, i also love to see him lose, which he won't do ever again afaik

ideal warriors situation is kd and curry combine for 80 and they lose, best of both worlds

people (sports fans especially) just enjoy being contrarian

there's no "elite player can't join the team with the best win record" rule.

tbf, this is the entire history of the NY Yankees in a nutshell

man it's awesome being out of pocket for 22 hours a day b/c ALL the takes on these finals are essentially depressing.

it's caused an odd degree of side-taking from ppl who can usually do better (and i'm not just talking about ilh). what happened was a function of the cap spike and little else.

yeah we're stuck with this possibility for the next few years until all the pre-cap-spike contracts wash out. they need to pay curry a proper max finally but klay and dray will still be underpaid for a couple more years.

see to me steph is an incredibly unique and fun player, i don't see how anyone can dislike him

Mouthguard

https://californiastarssite.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/150612_snut_nbagum_curry-crop-original-original.png

is steph the first person to chew on his mouth guard?

do you guys watch football? lotta visible mouth guard action in football

lebron literally stuffed his mouthguard into his tights during the finals

also frankly had the cavs not blown game 3 this probably would have been the finals everyone was hoping for

― J0rdan S., Tuesday, June 13, 2017 11:38 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yup its sad

see to me steph is an incredibly unique and fun player, i don't see how anyone can dislike him

when you play a lot of pickup bball with guys <25 yrs old it becomes almost inevitable!

haha tru

Yay to the Dubs! I love all of them, disgusting mouthgaurds and all. KD added the clutch player that they were missing.

thanks Marcos!

Matt Moore, who's been pretty outspoken in his warriors dislike of late, had a good piece last night
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/nba-finals-how-the-warriors-dominance-can-help-forge-a-better-nba/

I know people hate any team that gets good and stays good, comes w the territory. But they play a really fun brand of ball, and they're likable if you can get past them stuntin on your fav team.

they were more fun when curry was the primary guy imo

i've said plenty of times on this board that i didn't really enjoy watching KD in OKC but he was a joy in this series i thought

Yah I was in agreement w okc thunder kd

this team is for sure more fun to watch than the laker superteam i grew up with and all of the lebron teams imo

was the laker team the aforementioned malone/payton "era"?

hmm i guess they only became a 'superteam' when they added malone/payton. prior to that it was just kobe/shaq and good role players, huh. but yes the threepeat lakers team

the second bulls threepeat team is still my ultimate superteam, lots of fun dudes on that squad. i'm sure they were immensely hateable outside Illinois.

I prefer the 1st Bulls 3peat! Younger MJ, Ho Grant, BJ, Pax, Levingston, Scott Williams, Craig Hodges, still felt like an underdog team. Or at least hadn't had the "dynasty" tag slapped on with it's presumption of inevitability.

ya young(er) jordan was the shit too

oh yeah i prefer the first bulls threepeat team myself, i just didn't consider them a superteam in the same way. overcoming the pistons, ostracizing isiah thomas, finishing off the magic/worthy lakers, arguably singlehandedly denying championships to ewing/miller/barkley/malone/stockton/payton, true magnificence.

i was glad that during jordan's retirement the dude who won was Hakeem, he was my favorite NBAer outside of Chicago. I liked Drexler too.

ya hakeem was rad, super fun to watch and an a+ guy too

hmm

In his autobiography, Living the Dream, Olajuwon mentions an intriguing draft trade offered to the Rockets that would have sent Clyde Drexler and the number two pick in the 1984 NBA draft from Portland in exchange for Ralph Sampson.[17] Had the Rockets made the deal, Olajuwon states the Rockets could have selected Michael Jordan with the number two pick to play alongside Olajuwon and Drexler, who had established chemistry playing together during their Phi Slama Jama days in college.

wow

there's an alternate history i wouldn't have minded living in

re: Matt Moore article. Good stuff, and I love the term "gentlemen's sweep!"

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ya young(er) jordan was the shit too

― lag∞n, Tuesday, June 13, 2017 7:37 PM (three hours ago)

the greatness of post-miami lebron has kind of given me greater appreciation for second threepeat era jordan tbh

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