||| WARRIORS ||| CAVALIERS ||| NBA ||| FINALS ||| 2017 ||| PART ||| 3 |||

its like training to run a 4 hour marathon then suddenly having to do a six minute 26th mile

this series is the ultimate challenge for bron and if he can do it he is the goat

yep

I agree that it'll probably be Warriors in 5 but I definitely think Bron will be the best player in the series

please no injuries for this series either

^^ injuries would only muddy up the results, which need to be crystal clear this time

stephen a smith changed his official prediction to dubs

yes very sad about that

i would genuinely encourage any posters here who are totally picking the cavs in good faith and not just because they're homers or anything to find your local bookie or log onto bovada and start printing money

don't worry I'm a homer though I do think cavs chances are higher than most people are giving them credit for

what are the odds rn? i would give the cavs at least 40% chance to win

right now it's warriors -240 which is 70/30. it opened at -260 or -270 i think

538 saying it's 90/10

dont forget friends, betting on sports is dumb for making money

i don't gamble but 70/30 sounds ridiculous for a finals to me, let alone 90/10

dont forget friends, betting on sports is dumb for making money

― lag∞n, Tuesday, May 30, 2017 2:14 PM (four seconds ago)

def, but every once in a while there's obvious money to be made. finals 2 years ago was pretty easy money for anyone paying attention.

70/30 seems like a very fair price, even if i think the warriors should probably be stronger favorites. don't think it's attractive enough to bet

90/10 is pretty far out but dont think anyones giving those odds, wonder what it was for that year the lakers beat the nets, had to have been one of the most lopsided matchups ever

538 is probably over-weighting the Cav's regular season after the ASB.

havent read the 538 thing but that's probably right

yeah I'd take 70/30 for sure, but my book doesn't have a price on the series yet, lol

that said I do get a little suspicious of projection systems when they're dealing with superteams like this.

main thing that 538 model doesn't account for iirc is ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ playoff lebron ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

more or less

i recall nate silver saying is ELO model or whatever doesn't really treat playoff basketball as different from regular season

i very rarely bet sports, i think the last time i did was the finals 2 years ago. i just like thinking about it

NBA finals are kind of an interesting betting phenomenon tho, if you're a reasonably discerning and plugged-in fan there can probably be money to be made. combination of the better team usually wins + lots of media attention/terrible opinions by stephen a smith probably cause people to bet on the cavs when they shouldnt, making the warriors odds better

warriors odds are probably as good as they're gonna get because most books probably got a lot of money on the dubs last summer after KD signed

Just remember that LeBron has appeared in 7 consecutive finals but he doesn't have 7 rings.

if u add the number he has to the number jordan has he has 9

also remember that LeBron has yet to be on a team that would manage a .500 record without him

ehhhhhhh

lol he's literally been on 'superteams' since he left Cavs the first time

yeah any of those heat teams and kyrie/love would still easily be over .500 if lebron's place was taken by Arbitrary Defense Man

those Heat teams look a lot less good without Bron dragging Wade's corpse around with him. Cavs numbers w/o him have been pretty awful.

they're what, 4-18 in games Lebron sits?

dont think ur gonna get anyone on board w this one

team wins more games when best player plays, full story after this message

i don't think you understand how low the bar is for .500 in the east

hey I'm a Bucks fan, .500 in the East still feels like a feat to me

http://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/id/19483056/closer-look-warriors-cavaliers-matchup

http://i.imgur.com/oOIkopj.png

jesus

KD was asked if he'll do better converting open shots than Harrison Barnes did in last year's Finals. "what do you think?" he responded.

— jacob c. palmer (@jacobc_palmer) May 30, 2017

z lowe on TT
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19491943/zach-lowe-cleveland-cavaliers-tristan-thompson-becoming-elite-role-player-nba

― Spottie, Tuesday, May 30, 2017 1:11 PM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is really good

tho lowe describing thompsons floater as silky is a bit much

i'm finding it hard to have much of a rooting interest in either of these teams. i guess i'll lean towards lebron becoming the goat he was born to be but it seems like such a long shot.

anyways imo lebron is the goat and i'm sticking to dubs in five

ya i dont really care just want to see some stuff

lebron didnt prove it already last year?

lol it's true my only preferred champ is Messy D xp

bron proved it last year but the dubs are so much better this year it wld be even more proving it

yea if Bron somehow pulls this off he's 100% the goat, instead of like 75% or whatever he is now

imo hes at 35% GOAT rn

if he wins hell be at 85% goat

http://www.sbnation.com/2017/5/30/15707478/lebron-james-defense-strategy-cavaliers-warriors-nba-finals-2017

538 saying it's 90/10

― frogbs, Tuesday, May 30, 2017 7:13 PM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

cavs in 6

by the final two minutes of game 7

http://i.imgur.com/Xvk9049.png

the second bulls threepeat team is still my ultimate superteam, lots of fun dudes on that squad. i'm sure they were immensely hateable outside Illinois.

I prefer the 1st Bulls 3peat! Younger MJ, Ho Grant, BJ, Pax, Levingston, Scott Williams, Craig Hodges, still felt like an underdog team. Or at least hadn't had the "dynasty" tag slapped on with it's presumption of inevitability.

ya young(er) jordan was the shit too

oh yeah i prefer the first bulls threepeat team myself, i just didn't consider them a superteam in the same way. overcoming the pistons, ostracizing isiah thomas, finishing off the magic/worthy lakers, arguably singlehandedly denying championships to ewing/miller/barkley/malone/stockton/payton, true magnificence.

i was glad that during jordan's retirement the dude who won was Hakeem, he was my favorite NBAer outside of Chicago. I liked Drexler too.

ya hakeem was rad, super fun to watch and an a+ guy too

hmm

In his autobiography, Living the Dream, Olajuwon mentions an intriguing draft trade offered to the Rockets that would have sent Clyde Drexler and the number two pick in the 1984 NBA draft from Portland in exchange for Ralph Sampson.[17] Had the Rockets made the deal, Olajuwon states the Rockets could have selected Michael Jordan with the number two pick to play alongside Olajuwon and Drexler, who had established chemistry playing together during their Phi Slama Jama days in college.

wow

there's an alternate history i wouldn't have minded living in

re: Matt Moore article. Good stuff, and I love the term "gentlemen's sweep!"

Bay Area billionaires out in abundance

If you see this anywhere else but the Bay Area... they bitin #DUBNATION pic.twitter.com/lD6aNfH6SF

— Fall Up Focus (@SBFocus) June 13, 2017

ya young(er) jordan was the shit too

― lag∞n, Tuesday, June 13, 2017 7:37 PM (three hours ago)

the greatness of post-miami lebron has kind of given me greater appreciation for second threepeat era jordan tbh

Final playoff plus-minus leaders:
1. Steph Curry +245
2. Draymond Green +228
3. LeBron James +195
4. Klay T +192
5. Kevin Durant +177

— Tim Kawakami (@timkawakami) June 13, 2017

agree re: Hakeem. I should go back and watch those 94, 95 playoffs, I was still in MJ-mourning mode at the time. Such a beautiful player to behold.

the dream is my fav all time (non warrior).

I'm still tickled by Stephs 8 reb/game in the finals. Seeing a smaller dude jump into a group of bigs and snag the ball is like watching a squirrel steal someone's half-eaten sandwich and running up a tree at a picnic.

yah he was beastin

how did he even do that crazy, cavs really needed to dominate the boards to have a chance, and the did not

yea that was ridiculous

steph curry grabbing more boards than tristan thompson, rip cavs

that was great/bizarre to see

im in sf today and there is hella fresh warriors gear getting around

the dream is my fav all time (non warrior).

― Spottie, Wednesday, June 14, 2017 6:04 AM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Oh, man - I LOVE Hakeem. That he came from being a sub-7 foot soccer player to one of the top 5 best two-way centers ever, along with being a great dude, is just the best. His successive ownership of David Robinson and then Shaq in the '95 playoffs is still one of my favorite runs of any player.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxKIQK2O9Lc