THE 2017 NBA 'OFFS™

lebron james

forgot my picks

cavs over raptors in 5
spurs over rockets in 7
warriors over jazz in 5
celtics over wiz in 7

celtics 6
cavs 5
warriors 4
spurs 7

Not trying to be sports radio hot take about it but genuinely still waiting for a signature cp3 playoff performance

ugh i tuned in just in time for the horrible spurs arena slot car animation. i pray for the cars to die

i want to revive the cp3 for kyrie rumors

no, i have already foreseen cp3 to the spurs on a vet minimum contract

rockets clearly using 3pt cheat codes at this point

Not trying to be sports radio hot take about it but genuinely still waiting for a signature cp3 playoff performance

― gis for westbrook shark jump (agent hibachi), Monday, May 1, 2017 9:38 PM (twenty-seven minutes ago)

are you trying to make me mad

some real competitive games to night haha not really

i literally turned this shit off, its so bad

rip spurs pop on the hot seat

they need to bring in mark jackson to shake things up

Spurs tv promoting a band called the 'spazmatics' deserve to lose

ughhhhhhhhhhhh

basketball is bad now that's what i think

nothing bad about watching the rockets light shit up

2 u, perhaps

*opens 15 articles on 2017 free agent class*
*opens trade machine and sees who makes lamarcus aldridge-level money*

ha i guess it is sort of strange in retrospect that so many blazers fans i know were deeply heartbroken over aldridge leaving. iirc i was like "eh too bad we didn't trade him at the deadline, that was dumb as hell"

i think hes a good player playing great player money, basically

he might have just peaked. he was legit great last year

yeah it just seemed predictable that he'd start declining before long and idk he seemed moody here tho maybe he is just a gloomy fella

he just doesn't do enough.....things. he is kinda useless in the margins and outside the box score stuff.

seems like one of those guys who is prone to coasting, underachieving

People overreact to playoff blowouts

CAD, that i will defend him on. he's become a pretty good defender, this game excluded.

prone to coasting, underachieving

yeah. motivation is important to lma's performance, and it's not always easy for him to find some.

Just hope the SA media drag him over the coals. He responds well to hurt feelings and resentment.

matt otm

i don't think anyone thinks this game is indicative of the rest of the series but it is not what you want if you're the spurs

losing home court is never a great idea in the playoffs.

Not trying to be sports radio hot take about it but genuinely still waiting for a signature cp3 playoff performance

― gis for westbrook shark jump (agent hibachi), Monday, May 1, 2017 9:38 PM (twenty-seven minutes ago)

are you trying to make me mad

― k3vin k., Monday, May 1, 2017 10:20 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Ha I knew I was kicking your beehive but I honestly was trying to think of any. He's been great sometimes but I can't offhand recall a serious playoff asskicking along the lines of lebron dropping 24 straight on Detroit or going full terminator on the Celtics in 2011- maybe I'm just forgetting. But I think it's partly bc he has to play to his max all the time there's just not much more he can do especially when defenses have 5 to 7 straight games to focus on solving his tricks

I know I'm forgetting how good he was back in New Orleans, those teams were way undermanned basically just him and David west

Btw raptors endless futility in game 1s is one of my favorite playoff running jokes

i hope the raps are stuck forever on the cusp of being actually good

i dont expect them to win but it would be nice if they made the cavs at least sweat a little

lost a little respect for simmons when i saw he put nash and curry ahead of paul

― k3vin k., Friday, April 28, 2017 10:05 PM (three days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

you rank cp ahead of curry?

― Spottie, Monday, May 1, 2017 5:42 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

all time? yeah. give curry another 3 years and it'll be a conversation

― k3vin k., Monday, May 1, 2017 4:40 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

cp3 will be 32 later this week and had a season roughly as valuable as curry, the 2-time defending MVP. that's how good he is.

― k3vin k., Monday, May 1, 2017 4:42 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

We're both obv gonna take homer sides on this one but I think it's already a conversation being that he does already have two MVPs to his name. But probably a better convo for a few years from now yeah.

altho cp has made the all defense and all nba teams like 10 straight years haha

i think the rockets will take the series and even though i love the spurs and pop, i wouldn't mind seeing a warriors/rockets series. assuming the Warriors can get past the Jazz!!!!!!

if steph's game deteriorates quickly for whatever reason you could make a case for cp3 being better simply on longevity, but if his career has a long tail i think his career will be definitively better

fair. guess it also depends how much stock you put into team post-season success.

i think even if you put the team and individual awards success behind, the magnitude of steph's offensive game is > cp3. so you have to a. put a lot of stock in point guard defense and b. cp3's defense above steph's to say that cp3 is >

again this assumes that steph's career plays out fairly normally

chris paul has the highest offensive rating....ever

word. i don't believe he's the best offensive player of all time tho.

just checked that list and it's weird

Gallo above Harden/Curry... Calderon above Curry? Two defensive centers in the top 5, one of which is the worst free throw shooter of all time.

(talking about active players only)

here's the thing about paul -- you can't find a metric or a framework that doesn't love him. (haralabob mentioned something like this in the recent simmons podcast.) every time a new framework comes out, whether it's PER, or win shares, or real plus-minus, every system basically thinks he's not only an elite player but one of the best ever. his stature will probably age well because it seems like whatever the next dominant framework is will recognize his greatness. it seems cliche at this point to say it, but he does things outside the box score that matter a ton. and he's one of the best defenders ever at his position

that said curry obviously is incredibly great and his peak is almost certainly better than paul's peak. throw in a couple more rings and it's going to be hard to deny him a spot ahead of chris. but i just hope people realize when his career is over that paul was one of the 15 or 20 best players ever.

ftr i don't think offensive rating is a great stat (simmons loves it for some reason tho simmons really does not get stats) but the players on the top of that list definitely tend if be great offensive players