2017 NBA OFFSEASON

yeah winning is a factor but there are other factors which is fair u know

is there a free agent who has signed with the knicks or nets who didn't say, "I came here to win"?

jeremy lin?

Well Marbury and Carmelo just wanted to go home xp

Like marbury was pretty open about just wanting to be back near Coney Island

https://theundefeated.com/features/paul-pierce-leaves-imprint-on-nba/

pierce will actually probably be the most forgettable HOFer of his era

http://bkref.com/tiny/wkZaL

pretty crazy how similar their numbers are. pierce is basically a slightly worse version of melo

pierce better on ts%, efg%, off and def rating, etc. it is close but he was a better shooter, more efficient, and actually played in the finals a couple times.

not gonna read that undefeated piece but i do agree pierce won't be a beloved HOFer outside of one market.

kevin k a slightly worse version of whoever is the worst at trolling

pierce was definitely a better defender. melo will probably age better tho. melo's peak also higher

fwiw when i suggested that melo was slightly better than PP i was assuming his last 4-5 years would be a smoother decline than pierce's. could be wrong

pierce was kinda fun as the 4 on that wizards team. kinda.

pierce also generally doo-doo in the playoffs

also better shooting %s, net ratings, etc. than melo in the playoffs lol

i am not exactly a melo fan

i'm just struggling to find a meaningful number where he looks better than pierce in the playoffs. i'm open-minded to the idea but it's not really happening.

well when i said he was doo doo in the offs i meant in general for a HOFer, not necessarily in comparison to melo. i assume the reason his PER is lower than melo's is mostly due to higher usage and lower turnover percentage

er, lower usage and more turnovers

ah ok, that may be true re: general HOFers.

pierce has a pretty big lead there in the regression-based advanced stats due to slightly higher efficiency and better defense. PER is a witches brew and i don't buy it in general.

i don't really know where the bar is for the basketball hall of fame these days.

i think his heroic return within minutes from a devastating knee injury that would have crippled lesser players for a season or two during their finals win was certainly legendary

remember when he got stabbed in the neck and face in a nightclub? i always forget that.

looking the recent HoF classes now, pierce is pretty far above the bar. if this was baseball he'd probably be one of the guys who has to sweat it out for 5 years before people let him in. we're more inclusive with our HoF over here.

guys like melo and pierce probably wouldn't make it in a baseball style hall. melo is basically steve garvey and pierce is like...kirk gibson?

Paul Pierce has had a lot of big moments, many that Raps fans in particular won't forget. He was rarely a top 5 player in a season statewide but he was definitely memorable

*statswise

ask any knicks fan how they feel about him lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUWwDzBkUdw&feature=youtu.be

liked this video from coach nick. i loved stockton too, lol pvmic

Paul Pierce is top 20 all-time in scoring. Would a guy who was top 20 all time in hits not make the baseball hall of fame?

iirc the guy who is #1 in hits in not in the baseball hof

Yah the goat isn't in baseballs a mess

you can't compare 1:1 like that between those sports because baseball teams carry twice as many players and has a way longer history. the 50th best baseball player ever is probably a lot better at baseball than the 50th best NBA player

that said a good answer to your question would be rafael palmeiro, who is 26th all time in hits and might not have made the HOF even without the PED stuff

xp lol

baseball is terrible, why are we talking about the baseballs

literally none of the mlb players have ever dunked, all of them are disqualified from the halla fame

"the 50th best baseball player ever is probably a lot better at baseball than the 50th best NBA player"

I would hope so

mike trout dunks

Baseball >>>> football (as of 2015 for next)

Basketball obv better than both

mike trout doesnt dunk in game, shit dont count

here are the team sports

basketball>>>>>>>>soccer>>>>>>>>>>hockey>>>>>>>>>>cricket (bc its cute)>baseball>>>>>>>concussionball>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>esports

lol bise likes the floppy sports

All of life is a *~performance~*

ah the ultimate game of being alive

like half the nba teams own esports franchises now, its a plague

I'm more into speedruns

speedruns r good

http://www.blazersedge.com/2017/5/2/15527350/brandon-roy-shooting-report-los-angeles-la-king-5

Brandon Roy was maybe ... shot?

yikes

KCBS in Los Angeles reports about 20 people, including several nieces and nephews, having a barbecue in the street. They were watching children play basketball in the 2000 block of North Nestor Avenue about 9:30 p.m. when two men walked up and opened fire without saying a word, according to the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department.

The suspects fled the area.

Roy was standing next to his six-year-old niece, according to the girl's grandmother. He put her in a bear hug and took her to the ground. In the process, he was shot in the hamstring and butt.

hero