2017 NBA OFFSEASON

and then paul leaves after a year cause they suck

cn u extend a guy youve traded for in the offseason

maybe theyll try to get cp3 too for an "all paul" team

i dont get why pg would move to LAL apart from essentially romantic reasons. is it like accepted that pg would have a better chance of winning a chip with the lakers in the west? because afaict no current laker shows more promise than myles turner

blinded by the lights

maybe but idgi. anyway im glad larry is going, he totally fucked up every free agent signing and is clearly out of ideas

looks like a bunch of espn's nba writers are getting laid off. stein, abbott, ford once the draft is over.

more chat about that in this thread: sports and/or sport writing

They're gonna add a ton of work to the other writers with no pay raise huh

maybe but idgi. anyway im glad larry is going, he totally fucked up every free agent signing and is clearly out of ideas

He really should have gone against his coaching tenure principle and kept Carlisle.

i dont get why pg would move to LAL apart from essentially romantic reasons. is it like accepted that pg would have a better chance of winning a chip with the lakers in the west? because afaict no current laker shows more promise than myles turner

I never, ever question why anyone would sign in LA. Handsome young extremely rich athlete says he wants to move to LA I have no arguments.

ya its a place thats all set up for famous people

i don't think free agents should look to the success and examples of previous Laker heroes, they should look at how a player as bad as Nick Young comes to town and becomes a meme legend and hooks up with Iggy Azalea.

Most players have other priorities other than winning a championship, whether they'd like to admit it or not

yeah winning is a factor but there are other factors which is fair u know

is there a free agent who has signed with the knicks or nets who didn't say, "I came here to win"?

jeremy lin?

Well Marbury and Carmelo just wanted to go home xp

Like marbury was pretty open about just wanting to be back near Coney Island

https://theundefeated.com/features/paul-pierce-leaves-imprint-on-nba/

pierce will actually probably be the most forgettable HOFer of his era

http://bkref.com/tiny/wkZaL

pretty crazy how similar their numbers are. pierce is basically a slightly worse version of melo

pierce better on ts%, efg%, off and def rating, etc. it is close but he was a better shooter, more efficient, and actually played in the finals a couple times.

not gonna read that undefeated piece but i do agree pierce won't be a beloved HOFer outside of one market.

kevin k a slightly worse version of whoever is the worst at trolling

pierce was definitely a better defender. melo will probably age better tho. melo's peak also higher

fwiw when i suggested that melo was slightly better than PP i was assuming his last 4-5 years would be a smoother decline than pierce's. could be wrong

pierce was kinda fun as the 4 on that wizards team. kinda.

pierce also generally doo-doo in the playoffs

also better shooting %s, net ratings, etc. than melo in the playoffs lol

i am not exactly a melo fan

i'm just struggling to find a meaningful number where he looks better than pierce in the playoffs. i'm open-minded to the idea but it's not really happening.

well when i said he was doo doo in the offs i meant in general for a HOFer, not necessarily in comparison to melo. i assume the reason his PER is lower than melo's is mostly due to higher usage and lower turnover percentage

er, lower usage and more turnovers

ah ok, that may be true re: general HOFers.

pierce has a pretty big lead there in the regression-based advanced stats due to slightly higher efficiency and better defense. PER is a witches brew and i don't buy it in general.

i don't really know where the bar is for the basketball hall of fame these days.

i think his heroic return within minutes from a devastating knee injury that would have crippled lesser players for a season or two during their finals win was certainly legendary

remember when he got stabbed in the neck and face in a nightclub? i always forget that.

looking the recent HoF classes now, pierce is pretty far above the bar. if this was baseball he'd probably be one of the guys who has to sweat it out for 5 years before people let him in. we're more inclusive with our HoF over here.

guys like melo and pierce probably wouldn't make it in a baseball style hall. melo is basically steve garvey and pierce is like...kirk gibson?

Paul Pierce has had a lot of big moments, many that Raps fans in particular won't forget. He was rarely a top 5 player in a season statewide but he was definitely memorable

*statswise

ask any knicks fan how they feel about him lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUWwDzBkUdw&feature=youtu.be

liked this video from coach nick. i loved stockton too, lol pvmic

Paul Pierce is top 20 all-time in scoring. Would a guy who was top 20 all time in hits not make the baseball hall of fame?

iirc the guy who is #1 in hits in not in the baseball hof

Yah the goat isn't in baseballs a mess

you can't compare 1:1 like that between those sports because baseball teams carry twice as many players and has a way longer history. the 50th best baseball player ever is probably a lot better at baseball than the 50th best NBA player

that said a good answer to your question would be rafael palmeiro, who is 26th all time in hits and might not have made the HOF even without the PED stuff

xp lol

baseball is terrible, why are we talking about the baseballs

literally none of the mlb players have ever dunked, all of them are disqualified from the halla fame

"the 50th best baseball player ever is probably a lot better at baseball than the 50th best NBA player"

I would hope so

yeah spottie beat me to it. but the regular season hasn't started yet!

the moment the kelly o portrait is posted the season begins

kelly o has spoken