It is really strange to see so much of the old guard refer to advanced metrics as an organizational philosophy like "smallball" or "don't give up the big inning", its like figure out what it is before you write 2000 words on it
(and yes, I know that wasn't the point of the article)
― frogbs, Tuesday, May 24, 2016 1:56 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Yeah this is always weird to me, analytics is supposed to be about finding new ways to tell you things that *are happening* in the game that might be hard to see, then use that information to figure out *what to do*
Having a stance against analytics now is like having a stance against watching game tape, some dudes 1970 probably thought it was too fancy and just got up more practice shots but duh it's just a tool
― gis for westbrook shark jump (agent hibachi), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 18:09 (ten years ago)
Heh the best part of that Wilbon article is that he handwaves away the "tiny handful" of black people in pro sports using analytics in the opening paragraph so that his point stands
I mean, just take that on head-on: it probably is white-dominated. How many are there? Is it a bigger or smaller percentage than other layers of non player positions in sports? Is it worse than there only being one black owner in the league? Is it actually trending up or down?
If I'm gonna lean as hard into anecdata as he does I don't think I've heard an actual verbal conversation among random fans of any color centered on any advanced stats outside of a few baseball heads who get into whip when arguing about pitchers or w/e, do all races hate analytics?
― gis for westbrook shark jump (agent hibachi), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 18:20 (ten years ago)
in an election year I don't hear a lot of people discussing analytics and polls plus endorsement models for who'll win Ohio, they talk about their emotions re: the candidates. and yet I have a feeling that sam wong will be closer to right about who's gonna win than my neighbor who thinks trump is "a good guy."
― Clay, Tuesday, 24 May 2016 18:23 (ten years ago)
can someone find me a good picture of warriors/oracle technical coordinator james young, aka the guy with the big hair who works on the sideline.
i can only find blurry sasquatch lookin' pics of him
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 18:57 (ten years ago)
http://ww1.hdnux.com/photos/46/42/40/10102824/11/920x920.jpg
― Spottie, Tuesday, 24 May 2016 19:09 (ten years ago)
as a proud izro styler i appreciate his carrying the flame
― ulysses, Tuesday, 24 May 2016 20:06 (ten years ago)
Joakim Noah Telling Teammates He's Leaving Bulls, Doesn't Trust Front Office
― moullet, Wednesday, 25 May 2016 17:38 (ten years ago)
i've heard he might end up back w/ thibs in minnesota. very possibly cooked but i would still kinda like to see him and horford reunite.
― balls, Wednesday, 25 May 2016 18:56 (ten years ago)
FIRST TEAM ALL-DEFENSE: kawhi, draymondo, deandre, cp3, avery bradley (:])
― if young slothrop don't trust ya i'm gon' rhyme ya (slothroprhymes), Wednesday, 25 May 2016 19:20 (ten years ago)
oh, and second whoops: millsap, paul george, whiteside, tony allen, jimmy butler
― if young slothrop don't trust ya i'm gon' rhyme ya (slothroprhymes), Wednesday, 25 May 2016 19:25 (ten years ago)
ricky robbedio
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 25 May 2016 20:01 (ten years ago)
he got some votes!https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CjU2XZwVEAAvQxc.jpg:medium
― if young slothrop don't trust ya i'm gon' rhyme ya (slothroprhymes), Wednesday, 25 May 2016 20:12 (ten years ago)
dame robbed again
― Clay, Wednesday, 25 May 2016 20:38 (ten years ago)
haha
gobert was robbed imo
― micah, Wednesday, 25 May 2016 21:58 (ten years ago)
probably missed too many games
― Spottie, Wednesday, 25 May 2016 22:03 (ten years ago)
Adrian Wojnarowski @WojVerticalNBA 19m19 minutes agoMemphis has offered Miami assistant David Fizdale its head coaching job, league sources tell @TheVertical. Sides working on a contract.
― Spottie, Wednesday, 25 May 2016 22:09 (ten years ago)
I'm going to get comfortable in this thread earlier than I expected to. Make room in the bed, bison!
― Jenny Ondioleeene (Leee), Wednesday, 25 May 2016 22:30 (ten years ago)
is durant a warrior yet
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 25 May 2016 22:34 (ten years ago)
heh
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 25 May 2016 22:35 (ten years ago)
:(
― Spottie, Wednesday, 25 May 2016 22:36 (ten years ago)
some great quotes by Bomani on the Wilbon article here:
http://deadspin.com/espn-finds-new-way-to-have-inane-debate-over-sports-ana-1778745587
The analytics thing that is largely generational. There’s another issue that I think comes up that black people are generally steered away from mathematics. Math and science related fields, people of color and women, and people of color not including Asians in this discussion, but people of color and women are typically pushed away from those directions. I’ve taken a lot of high-level math, where you look around and are like, “Damn, it’s just me.” Like that’s the game. That’s what the game’s been for a very, very, very long time, so I could imagine that there are black people that aren’t necessarily so inclined to lean on these advanced numbers because nobody has ever been so inclined to lean these advanced numbers back upon us. I can see it like that.
― frogbs, Thursday, 26 May 2016 04:29 (ten years ago)
the whole segment is worth hearing btw
― frogbs, Thursday, 26 May 2016 04:31 (ten years ago)
Bomani Jones is so good
― 6 god none the richer (m bison), Thursday, 26 May 2016 04:49 (ten years ago)
I really love him yeah
― Clay, Thursday, 26 May 2016 04:54 (ten years ago)
this guy is famed for his legendary outdoor weather reports; i think all local sports media boils down to this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0ZOyw0C0EM
― ulysses, Thursday, 26 May 2016 14:14 (ten years ago)
all nba first teamstephrussbronkawhideandre
second teamcp3damekddrayboogie
thirdlowryklaypaul georgelmadrummond
pretty good year
― Clay, Thursday, 26 May 2016 19:41 (ten years ago)
dame 2nd team all nba but no all star
― Spottie, Thursday, 26 May 2016 19:44 (ten years ago)
#mambaout
dre 1st team all nba but no all star
― lag∞n, Thursday, 26 May 2016 19:45 (ten years ago)
horford and millsap got robbed but otherwise looks fine
― ciderpress, Thursday, 26 May 2016 19:46 (ten years ago)
what stands out to me is how we will never have an effective ilh shorthand for paul george
― Clay, Thursday, 26 May 2016 19:47 (ten years ago)
http://official.nba.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2016/05/2015-16-All-NBA-Teams.pdf
complete voting results if yr into the detailz
― Clay, Thursday, 26 May 2016 19:50 (ten years ago)
PG-13 really is awful innit
― if young slothrop don't trust ya i'm gon' rhyme ya (slothroprhymes), Thursday, 26 May 2016 19:50 (ten years ago)
no harden hhahaa
― Spottie, Thursday, 26 May 2016 19:51 (ten years ago)
oh lmao i didnt even notice harden's absence
― ciderpress, Thursday, 26 May 2016 19:54 (ten years ago)
bron needs one more first team placing to tie for most all-time
― Clay, Thursday, 26 May 2016 19:55 (ten years ago)
also no brow which means he loses out on like 600 million dollars m/l
― Spottie, Thursday, 26 May 2016 19:55 (ten years ago)
what a shite capper to an awful season
― if young slothrop don't trust ya i'm gon' rhyme ya (slothroprhymes), Thursday, 26 May 2016 19:56 (ten years ago)
(for brow)
otoh dame making it costs Portland like 300mil in hold space on the cap, likely meaning they can't make a max offer without cutting a bunch of cool pieces :/ xp
― Clay, Thursday, 26 May 2016 19:57 (ten years ago)
― Spottie, Thursday, May 26, 2016 3:55 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark
was just gonna say
― 龜, Thursday, 26 May 2016 19:57 (ten years ago)
teams
― ciderpress, Thursday, 26 May 2016 20:02 (ten years ago)
weird thing is draymond got more first place votes AND more points than deandre jordan
― k3vin k., Thursday, 26 May 2016 20:17 (ten years ago)
lol oh shit the rockets just hired d'antoni this is gonna be fun
― Clay, Thursday, 26 May 2016 21:58 (ten years ago)
nice i was hoping for that outcome
― ciderpress, Thursday, 26 May 2016 22:27 (ten years ago)
I'm sure dwight wants to be a part of that eh
― Spottie, Thursday, 26 May 2016 23:42 (ten years ago)
what a bizarre hire
― call all destroyer, Friday, 27 May 2016 00:01 (ten years ago)
im trying to convince myself that this will work out but........
― J0rdan S., Friday, 27 May 2016 03:18 (ten years ago)
i clearly remember the last time he coached a talented team with chemistry issues
― Clay, Friday, 27 May 2016 03:28 (ten years ago)
is steph changing his FT routine?
― k3vin k., Friday, 27 May 2016 03:29 (ten years ago)