i have something to say about the offseason THE 2016 NBA OFFSEASON

well maybe just the times i watched him, i guess his numbers aren't that terrible

if justice gets to just average starter level offense hell be extremely valuable, if he ever really starts to rain watch out

what you mean to say by "not as high on jokic as some other people" is "i didn't watch the nuggets play this year". pretty much everyone who's seen him in action loves him. he's passed the eye test and the stats test

― k3vin k., Thursday, May 19, 2016 3:16 PM (21 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

hey now i watched at /least/ four nuggets games

just looked at his per 100 numbers and, aight! i see you jokic

vogel to orlando appears to be happening

great hire

yeah that team will get a lot better

unless gordon blows up (possible!) seems like they cld be running the risk of being a classic trapped in the middle starless team tho

dwight, candid http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/15596878/dwight-howard-qa-superman-returns

'Let's have Magic cereal, Magic vitamins with our players' faces on it so they can get to know our team.'

i can totally see dwight's face lighting up like a kid as he said this

lol poor dwight

another point in favor of my orlando magic theory (henceforth abbreviated as OMT)

i loved that dwight interview

if i were a team w/ no other means of obtaining a superstar i would consider giving dwight a shitload of money. i still think he has dominating stretches/games left in him if he's not put in a situation like he was in houston.

i could see him getting a fresh start mentally but not sure he can bring it physically often enough. also not sure when something else will cause him to throw a random hissyfit.

i dont really want him on the celtics but it still is one of the better fits

it's a good fit but he would just not do well here, basically take the least serious athlete and put him in the most serious sports market and see what happens

oh yeah he's gonna sign with dallas and that makes a lot of sense to me. they will need him to soak up possessions and that will help him stay happy but when it matters they can spread out around him. they rejuvenated tyson chandler a second time and even almost dalembert i feel like dwight could slide in nicely there.

The Tom Thibodeau era is officially underway in the Twin Cities, as the Minnesota Timberwolves announced the dismissal of nine front office executives, assistant coaches, and basketball support staff on Friday.

Among those relieved of their duties were previous general manager Milt Newton, vice president Rob Babcock, vice president of sports performance Arnie Kander, and assistant coach Sidney Lowe. Thibodeau was named president and head coach of the team April 20.

It had been previously reported that Newton would remain with the team at least through the June 23 draft. Babcock had spent the last 10 years with the Timberwolves after an ill-fated tenure as general manager of the Toronto Raptors. Lowe, a former head coach in Minnesota and with the Memphis Grizzlies, had been an assistant with the Wolves since 2014.

the new broom is raising a lot of dust there

what about Dwight to the Bulls? Gasol and Noah both more than likely won't be coming back

thats just cruel

damn thibodeau massacre

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_NBA_draft

look at this draft class

not a good class but there's still time for a few of these guys

one of the worst ever def and most of the best guys went in the teens which is weird

Yeah weirdly I was just looking at that draft the other day

If you did it again it probably goes Giannis- Gobert- Adams now? Then maybe oladipo...maybe Noel..then basically just light the ping pong balls on fire after that

Oh McCollum, he'd probably go over oladipo

http://theundefeated.com/features/mission-impossible-african-americans-analytics/

posted this in the race thread but i figure ILHers will be interested in the topic

good read.

Amin El Hassan (who tbf is quoted) would've been the perfect guy to write that article. Wilbon expounds his bias whilst having nothing interesting to say about where it comes from or what it means.

I mean, the guy uses a sample size of Shaun Livingston and Draymond Green to rule out the possibility that young black people might use or talk about analytics which is complete bullshit.

amin's a decent analyst but he's not really like a...writer

someone like greg howard maybe

It’s like calculating points per 100 possessions, a very popular go-to stat in NBA circles. Why is that more important than points per 48 minutes, which is the actual time in which an NBA game is played?

this reads like a Mitch Albom column

points per 36 is the best

or any per 36 minute stats

xps

Amin may not be a writerly writer but he's a black man that has made a career out of analytics in a way that Wilbon and Howard haven't. I'd be a lot more interested in his take on things given his career path and experiences.

I mean it's clear from the quotes that he's thought about it quite a fair bit.

xp per 36 numbers can make players on good teams that play garbage time look like gods.

It is really strange to see so much of the old guard refer to advanced metrics as an organizational philosophy like "smallball" or "don't give up the big inning", its like figure out what it is before you write 2000 words on it

(and yes, I know that wasn't the point of the article)

literally wilbon' main thing on pti at this point is that he hates analytics and millennials are bad. I can't take any of this seriously as an engaged racial analysis because I flatly dismiss the guy as an angry crank.

I heard Amin about five times on lowes pod before I realized he was black, I think I assumed he was middle eastern maybe? Either way I don't think I ever specifically heard him touch on race for any reason so I didn't really think about it. P sure the clip of him clowning doc rivers gm decisions (the "did you grow up playing ball in my driveway, welcome to the clippers" one) was the first time he wasn't just a disembodied phone voice

he's on The Jump pretty often now.

It is really strange to see so much of the old guard refer to advanced metrics as an organizational philosophy like "smallball" or "don't give up the big inning", its like figure out what it is before you write 2000 words on it

(and yes, I know that wasn't the point of the article)

― frogbs, Tuesday, May 24, 2016 1:56 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah this is always weird to me, analytics is supposed to be about finding new ways to tell you things that *are happening* in the game that might be hard to see, then use that information to figure out *what to do*

Having a stance against analytics now is like having a stance against watching game tape, some dudes 1970 probably thought it was too fancy and just got up more practice shots but duh it's just a tool

Heh the best part of that Wilbon article is that he handwaves away the "tiny handful" of black people in pro sports using analytics in the opening paragraph so that his point stands

I mean, just take that on head-on: it probably is white-dominated. How many are there? Is it a bigger or smaller percentage than other layers of non player positions in sports? Is it worse than there only being one black owner in the league? Is it actually trending up or down?

If I'm gonna lean as hard into anecdata as he does I don't think I've heard an actual verbal conversation among random fans of any color centered on any advanced stats outside of a few baseball heads who get into whip when arguing about pitchers or w/e, do all races hate analytics?

in an election year I don't hear a lot of people discussing analytics and polls plus endorsement models for who'll win Ohio, they talk about their emotions re: the candidates. and yet I have a feeling that sam wong will be closer to right about who's gonna win than my neighbor who thinks trump is "a good guy."

can someone find me a good picture of warriors/oracle technical coordinator james young, aka the guy with the big hair who works on the sideline.

i can only find blurry sasquatch lookin' pics of him

http://ww1.hdnux.com/photos/46/42/40/10102824/11/920x920.jpg

as a proud izro styler i appreciate his carrying the flame

Joakim Noah Telling Teammates He's Leaving Bulls, Doesn't Trust Front Office

i've heard he might end up back w/ thibs in minnesota. very possibly cooked but i would still kinda like to see him and horford reunite.

FIRST TEAM ALL-DEFENSE: kawhi, draymondo, deandre, cp3, avery bradley (:])

oh, and second whoops: millsap, paul george, whiteside, tony allen, jimmy butler