yeah i was thinking that the bron era heat model might be a more realistic blueprint for the pellies, with brow being the focal point out of the elbow/block with shooters around him.
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 April 2015 17:42 (eleven years ago)
Is Davis a good enough passer for that to work though?
― tsrobodo, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 17:48 (eleven years ago)
hes a good passer and will no doubt only get better
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 17:49 (eleven years ago)
they already play inside out w him at the elbow a lot but mostly theyre just dumping it to him there and letting him create rather than doing anything to encourage a good look
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 17:51 (eleven years ago)
dont think kawhi will ever be a goto guy hes a much more in the flow of the game type which makes him perfect for the spurs
― lag∞n, Tuesday, April 21, 2015 1:17 PM (31 minutes ago
kawhi stops the ball plenty actually
it's more about having a system. davis can still get plenty of touches, take advantage of his playmaking abilities, and affect the game on defense. but teams like the spurs/dubs/hawks etc have the whole team buying into the system and can integrate their second units too
obviously they require personnel but they have some decent pieces now, plus anthony davis is going to be the best player in the world starting next year and people are gonna want to play with him. it'll work out
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 21 April 2015 17:53 (eleven years ago)
idk if u have a bad org it often does not work out, see bron in cleve
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 17:54 (eleven years ago)
he spurs are incredibly unique, that's what makes them the spurs. i find the "play like the spurs!!" talk to be pretty limiting
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, April 21, 2015 1:32 PM (20 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
obv there are certain core principles the spurs currently adhere to that many teams across the league should probably adopt as well, but every team can't just be the spurs
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, April 21, 2015 1:33 PM (20 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
well the hawks have been playing like the spurs and generally the whole league is moving in that direction imo as far as more ball movement and balance fewer isos and so forth
― lag∞n, Tuesday, April 21, 2015 1:33 PM (19 minutes ago)
this is what i'm saying. this is the direction the league is moving in, this is what all the best teams are doing. take advantage of the situation now while you have a happy historically good player
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 21 April 2015 17:55 (eleven years ago)
― k3vin k., Tuesday, April 21, 2015 1:53 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
kawhi does some isos in the post tho often w mismatches but hes never gonna be anywhere close to a harden/durant/etc type of player who can constantly bring the ball up and make u eat it, hes a very cool player but hes just not a scoring machine
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 17:57 (eleven years ago)
ftr, when i said "spurs-style offense" i should have just said a more general term like pace and space
if ryan anderson can remember how to play basketball there is no reason the pellies should not be a top-5 offensive team
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 21 April 2015 17:58 (eleven years ago)
yeah brow/funtional anderson is a p sweet frontcourt
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 17:59 (eleven years ago)
whats going on w him? injury?
― #wegonnabechampionship (Spottie), Tuesday, 21 April 2015 18:00 (eleven years ago)
he was injured a bunch this year and also had some personal issues iirc
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 18:02 (eleven years ago)
thought the girlfriend thing was last year? idk
― #wegonnabechampionship (Spottie), Tuesday, 21 April 2015 18:03 (eleven years ago)
hes a very cool player but hes just not a scoring machine
― lag∞n, Tuesday, April 21, 2015 1:57 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
also jsut generally not a creating machine, not someone that bends the defense opening up opportunities for the whole team
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 18:03 (eleven years ago)
kawhi kind of has an old-man game, on the spurs he knows to not stop the ball too much and wreck on defense but on another team he could be like a poor man's kobe
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 21 April 2015 18:05 (eleven years ago)
naaaaw
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 18:05 (eleven years ago)
i mean he would not score THAT much
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 21 April 2015 18:06 (eleven years ago)
but i think that's kind of his DNA. dude likes his backdowns and midrange jumpers
he just does not seem to have that offensive ingenuity, more of a two dribble straight line driver/opportunistic player than someone who can consistantly break down the D
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 18:07 (eleven years ago)
his post game is def developing nicely for sure, tho i suspect some of that is just being hot recently
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 18:08 (eleven years ago)
he's so young man, he handles the ball well for his size
obviously he's closer to pippen than kobe, that's probably a better comparison
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 21 April 2015 18:12 (eleven years ago)
doubt hell ever get to pippens level offensively, like pip was the defacto point guard for the bulls 75% of the time
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 18:14 (eleven years ago)
just a fantastic great passer/facilitator/creator
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 18:16 (eleven years ago)
was also the prime scoring threat on dece bulls teams while jordan was playing baseball
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 18:19 (eleven years ago)
defensively he is def pipesque tho
having a guy like that who is disruptive defensively and good offensively is super valuable
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 18:25 (eleven years ago)
he's 23 man he's gonna be good
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 21 April 2015 18:30 (eleven years ago)
hes already very good but as far as being someone who can break down the D thats more of a knack imho, its a natural baller thing, and i dont see any of that in his game
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 18:31 (eleven years ago)
wow first you question dray now you h8 kawhi i h8 u
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 21 April 2015 18:32 (eleven years ago)
you still like cp3 right
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 21 April 2015 18:33 (eleven years ago)
― lag∞n, Tuesday, April 21, 2015 1:54 PM (37 minutes ago) Bookmark
if you have an org that gives a major asset up for omer asik and gives major money to tyreke evans in free agency you're prob not gonna be about that pace and space life
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 April 2015 18:33 (eleven years ago)
i like both kawhi and dray i just feel like you know they have strengths and weaknesses just like any other players
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 18:34 (eleven years ago)
i feel the same sort of caution about kawhi that goon feels about draymond
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 April 2015 18:35 (eleven years ago)
― k3vin k., Tuesday, April 21, 2015 2:33 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
ya of course he is my fav, you want to talk abt a player who has feel and the ability to shred the D, all that and incredible discipline!
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 18:35 (eleven years ago)
liking chris paul is a moral failure
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 April 2015 18:38 (eleven years ago)
lol hes so good tho, hes like the platonic ideal
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 18:39 (eleven years ago)
he's incredible. nonetheless...
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 April 2015 18:40 (eleven years ago)
https://twitter.com/cjzero/status/590586440461000704
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 21 April 2015 18:48 (eleven years ago)
― lag∞n, Tuesday, April 21, 2015 6:19 PM (40 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
much much more than dece, perhaps one bad call away from a title in fact.
― Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 19:01 (eleven years ago)
― lag∞n, Tuesday, April 21, 2015 6:08 PM (53 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
naw dude we saw it last year too, dude is just a fucking beast in the post
― Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 19:02 (eleven years ago)
After a review by a Grand Jury, felony aggravated assault charges have been filed against Phoenix Suns players and twins Markeiff Morris and Marcus Morris.
― Clay, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 21:15 (eleven years ago)
guess I missed the first half of that story?
Police say that that Hood was assaulted for sending "an inappropriate text message" to the Morris brothers' mother some time before the incident.
huh
― polyphonic, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 21:19 (eleven years ago)
never send a dick pic to an nba mom gotcha
― Clay, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 21:20 (eleven years ago)
http://grantland.com/the-triangle/the-last-ride-of-the-spurs-dynasty/
just in time, lots of words on kawhi and dray
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 21 April 2015 21:22 (eleven years ago)
It's well reasoned as always and this might maybe really be it but I'm gonna wait until the Spurs are really truly gone, we've seen it too many times before
I mean what if Timmy gets a cyborg leg this summer huh whatcha gonna do then league
― juice college (agent hibachi), Tuesday, 21 April 2015 21:44 (eleven years ago)
"Derrick Rose's desperate search for his MVP zip"
― Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 21:53 (eleven years ago)
Kawhi Leonard is a free agent wow. I wonder if the Spurs will have the courage to pay him 50% less than every player of his caliber will be making in 2 years.
― Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 21:54 (eleven years ago)
It's well reasoned as always and this might maybe really be it but I'm gonna wait until the Spurs are really truly gone, we've seen it too many times before I mean what if Timmy gets a cyborg leg this summer huh whatcha gonna do then league --juice college (agent hibachi)
I mean what if Timmy gets a cyborg leg this summer huh whatcha gonna do then league --juice college (agent hibachi)
this presumes he hasn't already been using one. only limping bc he's on the prototype now, when pop perfects it oh shit look out
― slothroprhymes, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 21:57 (eleven years ago)
ya of course he is my fav, you want to talk abt a player who has feel and the ability to shred the D
cp3 a tru maestro, the standard tv angle doesn't do full justice to how he toys w/a defense
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 21 April 2015 21:58 (eleven years ago)