wonder what the contractual obligations regarding grantland/its writers are
― mookieproof, Thursday, 25 September 2014 00:58 (nine years ago) link
im sure he cld get out of his contract if he wanted and espn wld happily keep grantland humming along
― lag∞n, Thursday, 25 September 2014 00:59 (nine years ago) link
i dunno -- it's not like they could jettison nate silver and keep 538
― mookieproof, Thursday, 25 September 2014 01:08 (nine years ago) link
they cld, not sure theyd want to
― lag∞n, Thursday, 25 September 2014 01:09 (nine years ago) link
I'm fairly sure the worldwide leader owns grantland and simmons is just founder/ed in chief, and p sure both sides wanted it that way bc simmons can just walk away if he gets bored
I mean grantland basically exists as a perk to get him to sign his last contract so I doubt this suspension ends up anything bigger than "don't call an important business partner a liar until it's completely inevitably public knowledge and/or proven in a court of law"
― z-time champion (agent hibachi), Thursday, 25 September 2014 01:14 (nine years ago) link
yeah espn owns grantland and 538, silver gave them the name as part of his deal, grantland is the placeholder name their web designer used lmao
― lag∞n, Thursday, 25 September 2014 01:18 (nine years ago) link
didn't the otl report basically call the nfl liars, if in less inflammatory terms? simmons wasn't even bashing espn, just daring them to fuck with him for showing a wee bit of journalistic integrity
― mookieproof, Thursday, 25 September 2014 01:21 (nine years ago) link
I saw a grantland rice book in someone's recycling the other day and was half tempted to pick it up
― z-time champion (agent hibachi), Thursday, 25 September 2014 01:27 (nine years ago) link
yeah he was m/l paraphrasing espns reporting
― lag∞n, Thursday, 25 September 2014 01:27 (nine years ago) link
The otl report used a little purple prose but definitely avoided asserting concretely that anyone knew anything that wasn't tied to a specific on the record quote
― z-time champion (agent hibachi), Thursday, 25 September 2014 01:29 (nine years ago) link
But yeah the point of the otl report is that any reasonable person immediately concludes that goodell is at best thoroughly incompetent or most likely incompetent and also a liar and also now engaged in a coverup to hide some lies
― z-time champion (agent hibachi), Thursday, 25 September 2014 01:30 (nine years ago) link
never read grantland rice but ive heard hes the ultimate old school mythologizer of athletes god amongst men etc various tedious bs, kinda ironic considering simmons made his name bringing everything down to the fans eye view
― lag∞n, Thursday, 25 September 2014 01:31 (nine years ago) link
like larry bird?
― mookieproof, Thursday, 25 September 2014 01:32 (nine years ago) link
larry bird is genuinely godly tho anyone can see that
― lag∞n, Thursday, 25 September 2014 01:34 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/fyPIxK5.jpg
― lag∞n, Thursday, 25 September 2014 01:42 (nine years ago) link
http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--nXGwr4j---/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/y96ncgfvinl6xmtvcfub.gif
― lag∞n, Thursday, 25 September 2014 01:49 (nine years ago) link
yeah it's not like olbermann hasn't gone absolutely volcanic about this pretty much every night. i guess it comes down to you can't threaten espn or they will shut you up for awhile.
― yung dirk (Clay), Thursday, 25 September 2014 01:49 (nine years ago) link
lol that gif is the best
― yung dirk (Clay), Thursday, 25 September 2014 01:50 (nine years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ByV9oqqCEAA3_wz.jpg
― lag∞n, Thursday, 25 September 2014 01:59 (nine years ago) link
guess they figured ethics out good enough and they don't need one anymore, good work fellas
― yung dirk (Clay), Thursday, 25 September 2014 02:01 (nine years ago) link
but you maybe be interested in the content below
― lag∞n, Thursday, 25 September 2014 02:02 (nine years ago) link
oh i love content!
― lag∞n, Thursday, 25 September 2014 02:03 (nine years ago) link
I'm proud of ol' Bill!
― Maggie killed Quagmire (collest baby ever) (frogbs), Thursday, 25 September 2014 02:05 (nine years ago) link
this is a great reminder that if you're going to flame out, you should do it using the phrase "fucking bullshit" as much as you can.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 25 September 2014 02:19 (nine years ago) link
otm it is the ultimate flame out expression
― lag∞n, Thursday, 25 September 2014 02:20 (nine years ago) link
Robert Lipsyte's espn ombudsmen column is back up. espn is claiming that there was a technical issue that brought down several blogs, including his.
― jbn, Thursday, 25 September 2014 02:48 (nine years ago) link
lol ok guys
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 25 September 2014 02:49 (nine years ago) link
http://www.businessinsider.com/gossip-bill-simmons-wants-out-of-espn-2014-10
― Nowitzki Shrugged (Clay), Friday, 3 October 2014 19:38 (nine years ago) link
Best for last:
Tim Armstrong should also email Simmons — if only because AOL is where the "Sports Guy" got his start and because he still uses an @aol.com email address.
― cichleee suite (Leee), Friday, 3 October 2014 19:46 (nine years ago) link
seems to me he wants to be on tv too much to leave espn so unless turner wants to buy up a flagship digital journal for him to slap his name on he's not going anywhere
― Nowitzki Shrugged (Clay), Friday, 3 October 2014 19:50 (nine years ago) link
i'm still in "believe it when i see it" mode with this shit, lebron-style.
― snrub goin up on a tuesday (J0rdan S.), Friday, 3 October 2014 19:54 (nine years ago) link
otm
― mookieproof, Friday, 3 October 2014 20:12 (nine years ago) link
In some quarters, there's skepticism that Simmons is worth so much money. ESPN executives apparently gripe that Simmons' pet project brands on the web — Grantland and FiveThirtyEight — aren't doing very well.uh
― lag∞n, Saturday, 4 October 2014 04:59 (nine years ago) link
Grantland has been pretty weak lately - with the redesign they seem to put out a lot less content than Deadspin.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Sunday, 5 October 2014 21:11 (nine years ago) link
When did the guy from Rancid take over AOL?
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Sunday, 5 October 2014 21:12 (nine years ago) link
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Sunday, October 5, 2014 4:11 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
After a crazy weekend of playoff baseball, there were two baseball stories up on the front page today. There's an entire 2014-2015 NBA preview section.
― Immediate Follower (NA), Monday, 6 October 2014 15:07 (nine years ago) link
yes but baseball is a terrible sport
― owe me the shmoney (m bison), Monday, 6 October 2014 15:08 (nine years ago) link
in depth preview is kinda more their steez than game recaps tho, but yeah you would think they couldve come up w some #longform way to explore the baseball playoffs, also may just be a lil lag after the weekend in the baseball coverage
― lag∞n, Monday, 6 October 2014 15:12 (nine years ago) link
baseball is already longform enough #americaslasttime
― owe me the shmoney (m bison), Monday, 6 October 2014 15:17 (nine years ago) link
lol true
― lag∞n, Monday, 6 October 2014 15:18 (nine years ago) link
well they'll def have a big thing from rany about the royals up today but there's no way he could've turned it around in time for this morning
― snrub goin up on a tuesday (J0rdan S.), Monday, 6 October 2014 15:18 (nine years ago) link
I wish GL was just NBA articles, TBH. Actually, just Zach Lowe.
― Jeff, Monday, 6 October 2014 15:24 (nine years ago) link
And Molly Lambert
― polyphonic, Monday, 6 October 2014 15:24 (nine years ago) link
ya grantland for me is 90% zach lowe, i keep a bookmark to his author page, but they have some other cool stuff sometimes too
― lag∞n, Monday, 6 October 2014 15:28 (nine years ago) link
wesley morris is pretty cool, read him in the boston globe for years
― call all destroyer, Monday, 6 October 2014 15:29 (nine years ago) link
ya hes good
― lag∞n, Monday, 6 October 2014 15:30 (nine years ago) link
Jonathan Abrams features are almost uniformly incredible
Zach Lowe is an incredible perpetual machine of NBA analysis but I am already kind of tired of his writing this season, feel like he needs to son of bazerk CHANGE THE STYLE a lil bit but then again when he tried to fit into the grantland pop culture reference style early on it veered dangerously into poochie on a skateboard territory
― z-time champion (agent hibachi), Monday, 6 October 2014 16:18 (nine years ago) link
yeah wld prefer if he just honed it down a lil
― lag∞n, Monday, 6 October 2014 16:22 (nine years ago) link
also hes kinda boring rn prob because were in the very boring part of the offseason
― lag∞n, Monday, 6 October 2014 16:23 (nine years ago) link
He def recovered once he embraced his inner basketball shut-in but it's funny when he comes back from a vacation suddenly armed with four year old breaking bad references
― z-time champion (agent hibachi), Monday, 6 October 2014 16:24 (nine years ago) link