waiting for the other shoelace to drop: 2013-2014 NBA regular season thread (part 2)

the nuggets roster tonight is a straight abomination

rating him ahead of aldridge and griffin is pretty dubious but ahead of love is just unconsionable

i'd rather have paul george, he's a more versatile player who's a top defender at his position

ur dumb

carmelo is squarely in that group btw dude is having a great season

you have to reconcile kevin love being pure garbage as a defender

you have to reconcile kevin love being twice as good at offense as pg

gonna go with wins brah, PG wins games, love gets stats REAL TALK

well PG is twice as good at defense so i guess it's just personal preference

i would take a great wing player over a great PF in current NBA tho

lol when will the madness end, kevin love is putting up number that havent been seen ever and people are all well you know paul george is very good at defense smh smh smh

he will put those numbers up on a terrible lakers team watch my words u hear me

i mean mark my words
mark them with like a pen u cant watch words

nba tip elite perimeter D is not as valuable as elite offense, and certainly not as valuable as elite offense and rebounding, if it were then iguadola would be the best player but he is not and pg is not anywhere as good as kevin love

yeah the big reason that Love> George is the rebounding. It's not as simple as offense vs. defense.

ya but wins wins

by definition

u can win games by collecting rebounds, thats like bball's version of hoarding

u cant
hey btw fill a pillow case with rusty blades and swing them at my hands

george is the more versatile player for what that's worth, a 4/5 who plays defense as bad as love plays it is a major issue if he's not paired with the right complementary player.

like, if i could build a team to my custom specs love is for sure the more valuable player, but if i'm limited and can't find a good defensive 5 to play with love it's more of a conversation.

i would take a great wing player over a great PF in current NBA tho

― le goon (J0rdan S.), Thursday, February 27, 2014 11:15 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is silly kevin love has prob the single most sought after positional skill in three point shooting at the 4, like hes better than pg regardless but also he does a thing thats rare that every team in the league wants badly

4 me the true debate is: when you're at the beach, do u prefer surfing or swimming?

this is a bad beach boys v swimcap joke btw, 4 those of u squinting at home
u know u can strip me of mod powers anyday now

like, if i could build a team to my custom specs love is for sure the more valuable player, but if i'm limited and can't find a good defensive 5 to play with love it's more of a conversation.

― call all destroyer, Thursday, February 27, 2014 11:22 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

you mean shd we take the guy who is really good at defense over the mvp candidate conversation

man Kirilenko is such a genius

i mean the timberwolves are fucked atm and a major reason is that love and pek can't play together

they're one game under .500 with one of the 5 worst benches in the league

they have like the 6th best point differential in the west, theyve been unlucky, they have a terrible bench and two starters who are amongst the worst scorers in the nba yet theyre top ten in offense cause mostly of big man

Rubio went an entire month without scoring a field goal in the fourth quarter, btw

wow, that's amazing

Less amazing when you consider that Adelman often forgets to play him in the 4th

Also PG ain't better than Dirk, Love, Aldridge, Melo, Brow or Griffin.

can u imagine if the suns sign love holy shit

Y'all are sleeping on David Lee.

You guys this Manu exploding shoe may be like next level injury protection technology. That thing may have saved his ankle from turning over!

― Spottie, Thursday, February 27, 2014 12:06 AM (21 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol what how did this pass without comment

― z-time champion (agent hibachi), Thursday, February 27, 2014 7:32 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Seriously I was so excited about this last night and nothing but crickets f u ilh f u

Over the past 30 seasons, no team has ever fallen more than five games behind the final playoff spot with 25 or fewer to play and gone on to reach the postseason, according to Stats LLC. (Entering Thursday, the Knicks were five games behind Atlanta, and they would fall to 5 1/2 back with a loss to Miami.)

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304071004579409382747083394

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that dude is too much

Hmmm that was Hibbert's first 20/10 game since November. Dude really should dominate more than he does.

lmao bosh

#wheresalfred

Hibbert's conditioning isn't the best, and the more energy he expends on the offensive end, the shakier he'll be on defense / more fouls he'd pick up. His number only gets called if A) he has an obvious mismatch, B) if the rest of the offense is stalled in the 2nd half. At the beginning of each game he's really involved and most of the first 10-15 offensive sets will run though him; after that, they just want to stand in the middle on D. Plus everyone on that 1st unit is a capable scorer.

It'll be cool if Oden can play 25 quality minutes by playoff time and actually be a factor in the eventual IND/MIA series, which will probably be the only time Hibbert is a 1st/2nd option. Hibbert isn't a quick big, which means Oden's lack of lateral movement won't be as big as an exploit. Just hope Oden can make it that long.

Still waiting on Bynum to play, another fun wrinkle :0

hibbert is so slow, very susceptible to swarming double teams, never been an offensive force really unless hes playing the heat lol

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i'm highly skeptical that oden is gonna do anything significant to stop hibbert but we shall see

i feel like maybe he could help in rebounding just in terms of getting a body on hibbert but i don't think oden is there yet on defense to make a real impact

hibbert does dominate but he does it mostly defensively

fwiw i agree 100% with lagoon (and matt) in last night's debate, although i am probably a bit higher on PG than he is. it's not love's fault the rest of his team is chronically injured/is a joke (and that his coach has on the low been really really bad, and probably is going to be out of a job by the end of the season). i think PG is a an excellent player, probably right on the cusp of being elite; he wins games because yes he is very good but also because he plays in probably the best-designed and -executed system in the league.

wow can't believe i just ended a post with a period smh at me

i think i would take PG over any of the group of elite 4s, be it love, blake, aldridge or bosh

i just think in 2014 NBA it really helps to have an elite wing player, especially one as good on defense as PG. it allows you so much flexibility. in the right situation i might take melo over a few of them too (like, if melo could be coached by a smart coach backed by a strong front office)

basically all of those 4s (with the exception of bosh in practice but the heat are an anomaly) have to be paired with another big or else their teams just become a sieve on defense over time.

of that arbitrary group if i was starting a team for one season ignoring current contracts i would go

george
love
griffin
melo
bosh
aldridge