the lakers have just pooped their big-boy pants: 2012-2013 NBA regular season thread (part 2)

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ew

classic insane woj column http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--rudy-gay-trade-shows-lebron-james-the-future--super-team-era-ending--065716242.html

poor woj is under the impression that rudy gay is good

"Meanwhile, the Brooklyn Nets' Reggie Evans disputed the legitimacy of the Heat's shortened lockout-season championship on Wednesday morning, declaring James a comparable talent to the Nets' Joe Johnson."

WHAAAAAAAAAAT

he did!

reggie evans def has the nba troll game on lock

thats just stupid though, not even in the realm of trolling

*TROLLED

Levien is making these deals based largely on the recommendations of John Hollinger, a statistician who worked for a cable sports company.

wow woj is being a complete asshole here

yeah they must have some bad personal history

"a cable sports company" looooool

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― am0n, Thursday, January 31, 2013 11:41 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

barnes (?), griffin, pek (???), and shved?

yooooo that is shots fired from woj

is there ANY evidence for what woj says about lebron having been "thinking about a return to cleveland since joining the heat"? does he just not care?

there have been rumblings for a while... it's all rumors tho

i think he'll return to cleveland at some point... i doubt it's for his next contract tho

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nah idk. hollinger once told the spurs to sign some guy that sucked.

thinking back on it, the reason the Gay trade sucks for the Grizz is that it makes the previous contract dump trade look purposeless. They could really use ellington right now, for example.

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^^ sick harden defense

why? ellington is terrible

the only thing of value they lost was their first round pick but it's non-lottery so it's not the end of the world

Ellington is an ok 3point specialist. He was shooting 43% from 3 for them. Now who is their backup 2?

I like Jon Leuer ok, but that was a pretty rough deal for the Grizz and wouldn't have happened without the salary cap leverage, so why do that one first?

Because there was no guarantee of the second coming together and it got them under the tax line.

grizz were not actual contenders the way the west is this year. they're a piece away but it's not something they could have fixed right now, and particularly not with gay as the trade chip. better to put it off for a year imo

my understanding is that they wanted to clear room for wroten to play more... their guard rotation is conley/bayless/wroten/allen. it's def a bit light on shooting but i don't know.... i don't really like ellington at all.

maybe they'll swing a deal another deal for a shooter at some point

rip rudy gay

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Lionel Hollins on the trade: "It's almost like a sick relative and when they finally pass on, it's a shock but you knew it was coming."

Because there was no guarantee of the second coming together and it got them under the tax line.

― EZ Snappin, Thursday, January 31, 2013 11:23 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the deadline isn't until the 21st, seems like they rushed it imo

idk... it seems like they've been trying to trade gay for an entire year

I didn't like Ellington at all before this season but they needed 3 point shooting and he was delivering. Wroten is a project imo.

assuming hollinger is driving a lot of the thinking there, ellington's PER this year is 9-something. that's prob your explanation.

PER vs. WS/48 throwdown

ws/48 sucks imo

rudy gay is 12th in defensive win shares

tiago splitter is 5th in ws/48

WS/48 sucks, PER blows

do you want the one that puts Jimmy Butler and Tiago in the top 20 or the one that puts Blatche and McGee in the top 20

tiago obv

blatche and mcgee both had really strong starts to the season on a per-minute basis

PER just passes the eye test better, the top 20 or so players are generally the best players in the league and in a reasonable order. it undervalues defense for sure but i'm not sure defensive win shares is any good either

blatche and mcgee had strong starts and Tiago is shooting 60-74

both top 20s are pretty much junk

btw Javale's middle name is "Lindy"

steph is out tonight :(

are they just gonna hold Chris Paul out til the all-star break?

omg durant mvp

Marc is a smart dude