the numbers speak for themselves; his career numbers are a historic combination of volume and percentage
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 25 January 2013 04:54 (thirteen years ago)
15 more is ridiculous, no way it takes that many for him to be GOAT
you're saying he has to have 19 seasons that are better than all but two of ray allen's
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 25 January 2013 04:55 (thirteen years ago)
okay, if he does it for another decade.
i mean yes he looks like a historically good 3 point shooter. duh. that was the book on him coming out of college. saying that he's all but certain to be the best 3 point shooter in history is a major leap of faith for a guy still on his rookie deal.
― d'eejban (J0rdan S.), Friday, 25 January 2013 04:56 (thirteen years ago)
I never said he was all but certain wtf dude
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 25 January 2013 04:57 (thirteen years ago)
i guess we have different interpretations of the phrase "it looks like"
― d'eejban (J0rdan S.), Friday, 25 January 2013 04:58 (thirteen years ago)
danny's post is otm in that regard
also in one of those seasons he attempted 121 total 3s
and by danny i mean granny
ok fine then he only has 3 seasons that are better than Ray Allen's 2 best. At age 24.
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 25 January 2013 04:59 (thirteen years ago)
if someone came along and their first 4 seasons were among the 30 best rebounding seasons in NBA history would it be crazy to say that it "looks like" they'll be the greatest rebounder ever?
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 25 January 2013 05:00 (thirteen years ago)
yes!
― d'eejban (J0rdan S.), Friday, 25 January 2013 05:01 (thirteen years ago)
because of how they have only played 4 seasons
when t-mac was 23 a lot of people probably said that it looks like he'd be in the hall of fame. then the rest of his career happened.
― d'eejban (J0rdan S.), Friday, 25 January 2013 05:04 (thirteen years ago)
yes, it totally looked like he was going to be a hall of famer!
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 25 January 2013 05:06 (thirteen years ago)
it didn't look "all but certain"
saying that a guy who averages 32-7-6-2 at age 23 looks like a hall of famer is reasonable and it was very surprising that he fell apart so quickly.
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 25 January 2013 05:08 (thirteen years ago)
and he didn't even have 8 sprained ankles and surgery by then. Unlike someone else.
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 25 January 2013 05:09 (thirteen years ago)
tbf McGrady is probably borderline hall of fame
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 25 January 2013 05:13 (thirteen years ago)
he'll probably get in when he's 60 or something
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 25 January 2013 05:14 (thirteen years ago)
actually afaik every scoring champion has made it in and he has two of them, so I imagine he makes it, so great example Jord
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 25 January 2013 05:16 (thirteen years ago)
Bernard King isn't in and he won the scoring title once, should get in eventually
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 25 January 2013 05:18 (thirteen years ago)
ok guys
― k3vin k., Friday, 25 January 2013 05:18 (thirteen years ago)
i think my point here has been made
― d'eejban (J0rdan S.), Friday, 25 January 2013 05:20 (thirteen years ago)
http://cjzero.com/gifs/PierceStruggleFace.gif
pp thinking about that TO
― k3vin k., Friday, 25 January 2013 05:20 (thirteen years ago)
basketball reference puts T-Mac's hall of fame probability at 58%, somehow Bernard King is at 38%
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 25 January 2013 05:24 (thirteen years ago)
king had a way better career than McGrady iirc
― Clay, Friday, 25 January 2013 05:28 (thirteen years ago)
yeah idgi
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 25 January 2013 05:30 (thirteen years ago)
actually they're very comparable except king won in the first round at least once.
― Clay, Friday, 25 January 2013 05:31 (thirteen years ago)
anyway you heard it here first: Curry has a 58% chance of being the GOAT 3pt shooter
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 25 January 2013 05:33 (thirteen years ago)
Fair
― queef ka queef (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Friday, 25 January 2013 05:38 (thirteen years ago)
It's not like what's being suggested is preposterous.
― tsrobodo, Friday, 25 January 2013 05:42 (thirteen years ago)
someones gonna be the greatest three point shooter of all time because players keep getting better at shooting it and keep taking more
― lag∞n, Friday, 25 January 2013 05:57 (thirteen years ago)
whoever it is, they won't look like it until they're at least 37 years old
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 25 January 2013 06:04 (thirteen years ago)
no rondo trip dub mention, is everyone ok??
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 25 January 2013 07:25 (thirteen years ago)
haha kobe faced http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/lebron-james-dwyane-wade-compete-efficiency-stats-sly-145018924--nba.html
― lag∞n, Friday, 25 January 2013 15:40 (thirteen years ago)
lol ILH does not do "ceiling is" / "looks like" / "might be" very well.
I mean, if you're gonna propose "Which newish guy has a chance to be the greatest 3pt shooter of all time?" who would you put in front of Curry? Esp. considering that this is his first full season as Warriors' go-to guy, with more inside/outside 3pt attempts coming his way now that Monta Ellis isn't taking all the shots there. And, w/ Ellis there hogging the shots, Curry's 3pt #s through three seasons have been amazing.
Think "looks like" here = "has the best chance at becoming; yes I understand that extrapolating from 3+ seasons doesn't take into account horrible future events but wtf people I never said I was Nostradamus / Edgar Cayce / w/e."
― ヽ(´ー`)┌ (CompuPost), Friday, 25 January 2013 16:01 (thirteen years ago)
btw I support Matt in this argument, his phrasing was only slightly hyperbolic, what currys doing is unpresidented
― lag∞n, Friday, 25 January 2013 16:03 (thirteen years ago)
truly unlike any president ever.
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 25 January 2013 16:04 (thirteen years ago)
hey you know who is having an insane 3pt shooting year Kevin durant
― lag∞n, Friday, 25 January 2013 16:04 (thirteen years ago)
xps Heh also fwiw basically every Yahoo! page over the last year has timed out in Chrome + Adblock for me and my life remains unaffected.
― ヽ(´ー`)┌ (CompuPost), Friday, 25 January 2013 16:08 (thirteen years ago)
think we already established that the top 3 pt shooters of all time, with the exception of ray and reggie, are just above average 3 shooters who also play 25 seasons
― 乒乓, Friday, 25 January 2013 16:10 (thirteen years ago)
Disco Matt sez, "If these trends continue ... "
http://i.imgur.com/PSk6gaF.jpg
― ヽ(´ー`)┌ (CompuPost), Friday, 25 January 2013 16:17 (thirteen years ago)
ya kinda depends on what you mean by top xp
― lag∞n, Friday, 25 January 2013 16:20 (thirteen years ago)
yeah durant's funny because he's always been a great shooter and has been known to be a great shooter, but this is the first year he's actually putting up great shooting numbers
― k3vin k., Friday, 25 January 2013 16:22 (thirteen years ago)
hah well we can talk about best 3 pt shooters ever by % and w/ arbitrary number of 3's made, or by most number of 3's made
― 乒乓, Friday, 25 January 2013 16:22 (thirteen years ago)
really happy that steph curry is gonna turn out to be a better 3 shooter than kyle korver
you have to balance the % w year played attempts per game types of threes taken and then you will know the truth
― lag∞n, Friday, 25 January 2013 16:25 (thirteen years ago)
"Which newish guy has a chance to be the greatest 3pt shooter of all time?"
Becoming the G.O.A.T. requires so many factors to come together that such players come around very infrequently. so, most years the right answer to that question is "nobody".
afaics, no newish guys have demonstrated they have much of a chance. Curry has showed he has the stroke, but those ankles of his look to be so fragile that his odds of coming out on top of every other player of all time by the time he hangs it up look like about 50 to 1 against him right now. otoh, his becoming a top ten 3 pt shooter seems much more likely. More like 2 to 1. against.
And, if 3 pointers had been around in his day, the real G.O.A.T. was Freddie Brown.
― Aimless, Friday, 25 January 2013 16:41 (thirteen years ago)
afaics, no newish guys have demonstrated they have much of a chance
dude guys are shooting so many more threes and hitting them at such a higher rate its more like some newish guy is p much guaranteed to be the best ever
― lag∞n, Friday, 25 January 2013 16:44 (thirteen years ago)