the lakers have just pooped their big-boy pants: 2012-2013 NBA regular season thread (part 2)

That Mike James shot at the end of the game was so bad,

Anyone else see westbrook singing along to Die Young before the game? he looked so happy.

haha open mike james' basketball reference page and just feast on the variety of jersey colors and numbers

i thought we were done with him after he was cut by the wizards (!) a few years ago but i guess marc stein needs something to tweet about every january

it's probably best for alvin gentry that they let him pack it up, i randomly watched that team the other day and realized they have a bunch of players that i kind of like as an nba nerd, but that it's basically a roster made entirely out of what would be ok sixth-to-ninth men on playoff teams and not one top 50 player

there should be some kind of voluntary self-dispersal draft when something like the post-amare/nash collapse happens, like the suns should be able to hold a raffle for all their players, straight highest bidder, no more than one per team, and they can buy extra draft picks or something and just start completely clean

like jared dudley might be helpful for some other coach but he's just in the way of completely rebuilding there

Tons of xps-- feel like Harden's big talent w/r/t having successful outcomes on those drives (either w/ layups or FTs) is crazy footwork/body control. Most other players just aren't able run w/ that much speed at the basket w/o being completely out of control. Harden is somehow able to create enough space just in front of himself to make those drives worthwhile.

Eh, don't see how that matters that much; feel like years in league counts for more than a few years in age difference.
― ヽ（´ー｀）┌ (CompuPost), Friday, January 18, 2013 8:58 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

welp this is where youre going wrong then
― lag∞n, Friday, January 18, 2013 9:00 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Kinda immaterial to the TMac/PG stuff, but am I the only one who thinks that years-on-job mean more than age as far as player growth/development? Like, I imagine that high school -> pros guys like Kobe, TMac, Garnett, etc., could only make the jump because, generally, they matured physically a year or two younger than other kids, so it's kind of a wash? IE, the only time age really enters into the discussion is if a player is like 35+, where it's not a question of body development but more just of normal human deterioration. Just seems like actual NBA game reps / seasons being in NBA locker-rooms make a muuuuuch more dramatic difference as far as learning/growing someone's game compared to age difference.

Either way, always liked McGrady, and will pull for the Qingdao Eagles if they find themselves in the finals against Beijing. 祝你好运老鹰！对不起落后∞n，但保罗 - 乔治将优于麦蒂。

it's probably best for alvin gentry that they let him pack it up, i randomly watched that team the other day and realized they have a bunch of players that i kind of like as an nba nerd, but that it's basically a roster made entirely out of what would be ok sixth-to-ninth men on playoff teams and not one top 50 player
― questionable motor (agent hibachi), Saturday, January 19, 2013 3:19 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

OTM although I think they have a ton of 4th - 7th men on the team + a few prospects. They're not bad from a talent POV but yeah team filled w/ great complimentary players, not A+ ballers. Would support an NBA raffle #hoopideas.

Bob was tweeting late last night about how the suns brass apparently came out and said "we're supposed to be competing for the playoffs!" as their reasoning behind dumping gentry.

How deluded is a front office that seriously believes that roster playing in that conference is even slightly competitive. Like even the tiniest but competitive! Gentry had them over-performing if anything and was fired for it.

yeah wow that is outrageous

why not fire whoever picked Kendall Marshall

scrolling through the per rankings the first player who comes up is dragic at 70th! they have the 70th best per player in the whole league so why arent they in the playoffs of course

why not fire whoever picked Kendall Marshall
― Matt Armstrong, Saturday, January 19, 2013 6:27 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Don't talk about the Bakersfield Jam's starting pg like that.

@blazersedge Rockets GM Daryl Morey, in letter to White, says White apologized for misleading Rockets about his fear of flying prior to 2012 NBA Draft

@blazersedge In HBO interview, Rockets' Royce White says he would be "risking my life" by playing w/o mental health protocol http://t.co/sdFp7iYx

FWIW it's totally worth listening to that Hang Up and Listen episode w/ Royce. First and only time the whole situation seemed more like a dilemma for both sides rather than a WTFfest. Royce also comes off very wkiw/likable.

Kinda immaterial to the TMac/PG stuff, but am I the only one who thinks that years-on-job mean more than age as far as player growth/development? Like, I imagine that high school -> pros guys like Kobe, TMac, Garnett, etc., could only make the jump because, generally, they matured physically a year or two younger than other kids, so it's kind of a wash? IE, the only time age really enters into the discussion is if a player is like 35+, where it's not a question of body development but more just of normal human deterioration. Just seems like actual NBA game reps / seasons being in NBA locker-rooms make a muuuuuch more dramatic difference as far as learning/growing someone's game compared to age difference.

Either way, always liked McGrady, and will pull for the Qingdao Eagles if they find themselves in the finals against Beijing. 祝你好运老鹰！对不起落后∞n，但保罗 - 乔治将优于麦蒂。

― ヽ（´ー｀）┌ (CompuPost), Saturday, January 19, 2013 3:37 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

no man the older someone is the less likely they are to get dramatically better. there are exceptions but they are very much exceptions rather than the rule

(audio is better, but there's a transcript if you scroll down here)

poor lou will :-(

xp totally, but that drop-off doesn't start happening until you're in your mid/late 20s. Not to belabor it, but it seems more appropriate, esp. if it's early career-wise, to compare via years in the league (eg comparing their outputs in 1st year / 2nd year / 3rd year) rather via age (comparing at 19-yrs-old, 20-yrs-old, 21-yrs-old). The general point being that years-in-league mean way more, esp. from a comparative view, than general age.

hmmm best passing big man in the NBA?

conventional wisdom is marc gasol iirc?

poor lou will :-(

yeah i'm bummed. fully support the hawks dumping smith and tanking for a good pick.

What about Boris Diaw and Pau (at his best)?

Marc is better than Pau at passing imo. Put Marc in the triangle and you'd see awesome stuff.

lebron is prob the best passing big man tho ;)

Marc is probably more effective on the whole but I think Pau has the lighter touch.

Yeah was kinda skirting around the whole Lebron thing. I mean dude generates so much power from just flicking his wrists that a comparison almost seems unfair.

bulls have been basically running their offense through noah this year, i dont think he has marcs touch or creativity but hes been racking up the assists

lol the rockets announcers are turning on harden

harden could really use a day off tbf

it sorta oddly does feel like he plays every day?

yet it does not feel like the rockets play every day.

i can't reconcile this fwiw.

feels like he's trying to justify his max contract every night

maybe hes on more than one team has anyone looked into this

ya he dominates the ball a lil too much imho needs to learn how to pick his spots better, hell figure it out

well nah he's just not feeling it this week, everyone has slumps. i think hou's played 4 games in 5 days or something

even before that tho he was leading the whole damn nba in turnovers

when ive watched him i was surprised he could be as effective as he has been w how dribbley he is, not that he hasnt been great but he could be better w less dribbling

just like taking step back threes theres no need for that

also would be nice to play some defense

kobes really getting the hang of this whole tweeting thing

http://i.imgur.com/8xnZVIA.png

haha

matt's totally rooting against harden

griz 85 bulls 82 OT lol

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perfect

An MRI and examination today by Dr. Michael Bernot at Peachtree Orthopedics in Atlanta revealed a tear to Lou Williams' anterior cruciate ligament in his right knee.

"We are extremely disappointed for Lou and our thoughts and support will be with him during his recovery," said President of Basketball Operations and General Manager Danny Ferry. "He has been a complete professional in every sense of the word and know that approach, along with his work ethic, will serve him well in his rehabilitation."

Williams will now undergo a period of rest before having surgery to repair the injury at a date to be determined. He will miss the remainder of the season and a timetable for his recovery will be announced following surgery.

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Alvin Gentry ‏@AlvinGentry
ok i'm already bored!!! Need some suggestions as to what to do to fill the day. Lets hear some good ones

secretly coach the suns via earpiece into dragic

call dantoni every day to tell him you're taking over the lakers in 2015

feel bad for lou as i kind of liked that hawks team and also another season-ending injury on my last-place fantasy team, lol

josh smith sweepstakes officially open!