the lakers have just pooped their big-boy pants: 2012-2013 NBA regular season thread (part 2)

what happened

knee failed on him at a fastbreak

reported as "right knee sprain" by hawks PR.

harden with a 25-foot and-1

not sure of paul george ceiling

xp Hahahaha Harden had tried to flop on two previous 3pt shots w/ no calls. Good positive reinforcement call on that one for Harden staying upright.

Paul George ceiling = TMac with better defense and less explosive scoring, I think.

lol on the feed im watching the pacers announcers are making fun of people in the stands.

(during commercial, obv)

Which feed?!? Seriously when there's 10 stream links for games, I wish they'd say which stations have the feeds. Croshere usually does a lot of talking off-camera.

it was just the first link for the game at atdhenet.tv

im thinking in pierce, not sure why tho re: george

larry bird did a nice job @ this roster. i like it

guys paul george is a nice player but hes never gonna be comparable to tmac or pierce be srs

McGrady and George's numbers for their first three seasons are pretty similar, too, w/r/t points/rebounds/assists/steals. Don't think George will ever score more than 23ppg and will definitely never lead the league in scoring. Both of them have a ton of spring, though.

Thx, am gonna change feeds. Got in the habit of using firstrowsports, forget about the other sites sometimes.

rockets getting almost nothing out of the 4 (patterson, morris) lately. really would like to at least see jones or montejunas if its come to this

tmacky things

don't know if it's accurate to call harden anything other than a great finisher - the guy shot 70% at the rim last year and 66% this year - but he's definitely kind of unimaginative about it when you watch him a lot. which is kind of the opposite of what you'd think. but almost all his layups are those lefty scoops

― fiscal cliff paul (k3vin k.), Saturday, January 19, 2013 12:54 AM (48 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah wtf matt

― J0rdan S., Saturday, January 19, 2013 1:07 AM (35 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

he inflates his % because instead of having to do difficult finishes he just gets fouled, not that hard to understand really. If you reduced your sample of attempts at the rim to breakaways and easier layups it will be better. This a good skill of his!

btw Lamar Odom shot 71% at the rim one year and he's a horrible finisher

will beverly soon steal lin minutes?

Fuck dude Pendergraph stop it.

McGrady and George's numbers for their first three seasons are pretty similar, too, w/r/t points/rebounds/assists/steals. Don't think George will ever score more than 23ppg and will definitely never lead the league in scoring. Both of them have a ton of spring, though.

― ヽ（´ー｀）┌ (CompuPost), Friday, January 18, 2013 8:49 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

mcgrady came straight out of high school, george played two years of college! also use yr eyes, gdamn

xpost wasnt really comparing, just "ceiling" lol concept

mcgrady early in his career was a lot like Paul George and then he decided to stop playing defense and become a scorer. I guess it worked out for him, would have been nice to see him do both though.

wake me when paul george rides a wite boi like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hBTfS359eY

mcgrady came straight out of high school, george played two years of college! also use yr eyes, gdamn
― lag∞n, Friday, January 18, 2013 8:54 PM (1 second ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Eh, don't see how that matters that much; feel like years in league counts for more than a few years in age difference. And again, George will never be the prolific scorer that McGrady was. George's game is more well-rounded though.

My eyes say they play similar styles at roughly the same height/weight!

Gotta give PG a few more years before he starts ridin wites.

so yeah paul george's numbers are similar to McGrady's fresh out of high school-- but that's when McGrady's defensive numbers were the best!

at 19 T-Mac averaged 14-9-4-2-2 per 36

reminder mcgrady once averaged 32-6-5 w/a per of 31

Eh, don't see how that matters that much; feel like years in league counts for more than a few years in age difference.

― ヽ（´ー｀）┌ (CompuPost), Friday, January 18, 2013 8:58 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

welp this is where youre going wrong then

also in terms of dunking they're pretty close, lag!

out of curiosity who are the nba players who are like, top 20 offense and defense (and who also aren't big men)

did t-mac ever get out of the first round? george might have him on that one already.

McGrady was an efficient scorer for like 3 years, are we saying that's the "real" TMac

im thinking in pierce, not sure why tho re: george

larry bird did a nice job @ this roster. i like it

― moullet, Friday, January 18, 2013 8:47 PM (13 minutes ago)

lol what is up for the prepositions of this post

no tmac never did make it out of the first roud

he inflates his % because instead of having to do difficult finishes he just gets fouled, not that hard to understand really. If you reduced your sample of attempts at the rim to breakaways and easier layups it will be better. This a good skill of his!

― Matt Armstrong, Friday, January 18, 2013 8:51 PM (10 minutes ago)

if anything his already ridiculously high fg% at the rim probably undervalues his efficiency there!

66% is not a ridiculously high FG% at the rim

out of curiosity who are the nba players who are like, top 20 offense and defense (and who also aren't big men)

― 乒乓, Friday, January 18, 2013 9:01 PM (3 minutes ago)

lebron obv, howard when he was good, duncan, younger kg

it kind of is for a guard xp

lebron is like #1 at offense and defense

he inflates his % because instead of having to do difficult finishes he just gets fouled, not that hard to understand really. If you reduced your sample of attempts at the rim to breakaways and easier layups it will be better. This a good skill of his!

― Matt Armstrong, Friday, January 18, 2013 8:51 PM (10 minutes ago)

that really makes no sense, he either finishes or doesnt on the shots he doesnt get fouled on just like everyone else, he doesnt somehow magically chose to get fouled on the shots he wouldve missed and not fouled on the rest - if youre saying he doesnt go for difficult finishes yeah shot selection factors into everyone elses fg% too

I think the only guard with comparable rim attempts that shoots a higher percentage is Wade.

Kevin Martin is shooting 73% at the rim do you think he's a good finisher?

cuz if the argument involves Kevin Martin being a good finisher I'll just step aside for a while

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/53534/where-have-all-the-gunners-gone

he takes 1.5 a game!

lol

as EZ alluded to volume means something

but yeah i agree with your assessment somewhat, he's kind of stealth uncreative at the rim (once he gets there that is)

not sure what you guys are complaining about here, does the ball not go in enough, does he not get fouled enough, what exactly is this uncreative

what do u want? flair??

getting fouled on drives enables him to inflate his FG% at the rim because instead of having to attempt difficult layins he just gets fouled. Kevin Martin does the same thing (shot 70% on 3.2 attempts at the rim in Houston one year). Brandon Roy (a better finisher than Harden probably) was really good at it too.

Derrick Williams is an example of a guy who isn't a great finisher but instead of getting fouled he just gets swatted.