the lakers have just pooped their big-boy pants: 2012-2013 NBA regular season thread (part 2)

i don't think it's that terrible actually... bass would fit perfectly with dwight, i still think lee is a fine player & jeff green... well, whatever

pau for david lee & jack is interesting imo... i don't think jack alone solves their issues but it would help a lot. hard to make the salaries work w/ golden state tho

jeff green hit three 3s tonight lakers u should totally trade for him he is v good at basketball

i think the announcer for the first espn game tonight said that jeff green had a "career high" 19 points, can that be right?

he did say that but it was just a season high really

i think houston is an intriguing option. lin & harden don't really work together and houston could use a big that's consistent on offense. lin would be a good fit for the lakers' second unit even tho he can't shoot and is good insurance against nash getting hurt... they would maybe need to get a third team involved tho.

jeff green once scored 37 points

as i mentioned, jeff green is amazing at basketball

here are haberstroh's pau proposals

Trade 1: Lakers get: Danilo Gallinari (4 years, $42M), Andre Miller (3, $14.6M) | Nuggets get: Gasol, Jordan Hill (2, $7.1M), Darius Morris ($1M)

Of all the trades, this might make the most sense and here's why: Take my underperforming big man. Who knows what happened to Gallinari's jump shot? Sounds like a job for D'Antoni, his former coach who once called Gallo the greatest shooter he's ever seen. Of course, that "greatest shooter I've ever seen" is shooting a crisp 29 percent from downtown this season, the lowest mark among the 24 sharpshooters with at least 85 3-point attempts.

Gallinari has thrived in D'Antoni's system before, and it's hard to imagine a better reclamation project for D'Antoni than his fellow Italian marksman. But in order to make the money work, the Nuggets would have to throw in another player with a medium-sized contract. Miller fits the bill and fills a need for the Lakers at backup point guard. From a health standpoint, it doesn't get any more dependable than Miller, who's missed exactly one game over the past six seasons.

The Nuggets have frontcourt depth, but Gasol gives them a true star if healthy. Including Miller (who's only eligible to be traded after Dec. 15) in the deal would be a steep price to pay for Gasol alone and that's where Hill comes in. The 25-year-old is the only remotely intriguing young asset on the Lakers' roster and would likely have to be included to make it worthwhile for the Nuggets. The Lakers would love to get their hands on a "3-and-D" player like Corey Brewer, but Miller might fill a greater need.

Fit level: Strong

Trade 2: Lakers get: Andrea Bargnani (3 years, $32.5M) and Jose Calderon ($10.6M expiring) | Raptors get: Gasol

The Lakers would receive both insurance on Steve Nash and Steve Blake in addition to a floor-spacing big needing a change of scenery. Make no mistake about it: Bargnani is a traffic cone in pick-and-roll defense. But you can excuse that when Bargnani's perimeter-oriented game is practically tailor-made for D'Antoni's system.

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Andrea Bargnani is tailor-made for Mike D'Antoni's system.
For the Raptors? They currently stand five games out of a playoff spot, which is well within striking distance at this stage of the season. A Kyle Lowry, DeMar DeRozan and Gasol trio would be more than enough talent to crash the playoff picture assuming Gasol returns soon at full health and Derrick Rose does not. Worst-case scenario? The Raptors have Gasol tutor Jonas Valanciunas and then flip Gasol to a contender in the offseason for more youthful assets.

Fit level: Moderate

Trade 3: Lakers get: Ersan Ilyasova (5, $32M) and Monta Ellis (2, $22M) | Bucks get: Pau Gasol and 2013 second-round pick (from Memphis)

The Lakers have arguably the worst bench of any title-chaser in the league, but Ellis would be perfectly suited for a Leandro Barbosa circa 2004-05 role off the bench in D'Antoni's offense. Though Ellis carries a scoring average suited for a starting gig, his subpar shooting efficiency makes him a strong candidate to be a second-unit supersub a la Jamal Crawford.

Look around the league and you'll discover it's slim pickings at stretch 4. But Ilyasova (trade eligible after Dec. 15) finds himself on the short list, which is why Milwaukee felt he was worth throwing $32 million at this past offseason. As alarming as his torpedo act in the 3-point percentage and rebounding columns have been this season, it's not like Gasol has been sparkling, either. Ilyasova might be worth the gamble, even if he's not a household name.

Like the Raptors, the Bucks find themselves jostling for playoff position in the East and Gasol (again, if healthy) could give them the scoring boost at the 5 they desperately need. According to 82games.com, the Bucks rank 27th in scoring at the center slot. Free agents aren't exactly flocking to sign in Milwaukee so trading for a star like Gasol remains one of their lone options to make a splash.

Fit level: Moderate

ugh at rondo slipping on that stupid court decal

kg never shouldve passed him the ball!

Like he makes that shot anyway

xp

rondo took and missed the shot at the end of regulation too! wtf!

Love how evan turner just turns around and stands there in the final play

would love to see bargnani and calderon on the lakers, thatd be the ultimate diantoni assignment, if they win it all w those dudes hes earned his money

man I despise all those haberstroh trades haha

If Colangelo trades for Pau he's worse than Kahn

raptors have no need for a guy like pau, denver on the other hand

i think the nuggs need to get rid of miller but i'm not sure pau is great for their system

If I had to bet it's gonna be the TWolves, Glen Taylor wants to win now because he's selling the team in 3-4 years

man I despise all those haberstroh trades haha

― Matt Armstrong, Saturday, December 8, 2012 12:35 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

me too

pau for al jefferson, alec burks and earl watson

that one doesn't really work, alec burks can't shoot

i think milwaukee is one of the more interesting ones, but lol at pau in milwaukee

pau for monta/mike dunleavy/doron lamb

idk if the bucks would do that but that would be a great trade for that lakers imo, dunleavy has been incredible this year

maybe sub out mbah a moute for dunleavy?

pau & steve blake for rodney stuckey, corey magette and jason maxiell

pau & calderon to dallas, mayo & bargnani to lakers, kaman, marion & collison to toronto

pau & meeks to orlando, big baby, hedo & redick to LA

http://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/6173907

what say ye

omg you guys

pau & blake to philly for andrew bynum, jason richardson & dorrell wright

brandon roy is completely untradeable tho right?

Dec. 15th he's tradeable afaik

i love the idea of the lakers taking bynum of philly's hands and benching him for the season and giving them pau in order to get back two shooters

yeah no trade restriction beyond that xp

Dec. 15th he's tradeable afaik

― Matt Armstrong, Saturday, December 8, 2012 2:47 AM (31 seconds ago) Bookmark

oh i just mean the combination of medicals & horrid play makes him in reality untradeable

pau/blake for bynum, lavoy allen, jason richarson... how does LA say no

I think Toronto would want roy because his second year is unguaranteed

actually now that I think of it they probably wouldn't even want Pek since they'll be tanking idk

yeah i liked the idea of toronto taking back some of those random dallas players on one year deals but i couldn't figure it out on the trade machine cuz of the dec 15 restriction

My first NBA action of the season and this thunder/Lakers game well on the way to being the blowout I expected, but boy is Russell westbrook fun to watch.

Love that all three of Haberstroh's trades are basically "trade Pau for another Euro." Pau should just say fuck yall / buy me out like Odom, then go live the easy life reading audiobooks somewhere.

Stephen Jackson @DaTrillStak5
Somebody tell serg Abaka. He aint bout dis life. Next time he run up on me im goin in his mouth. That's a promise. He doin 2 much.

no h

This made me chortle, slightly:

http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2012/12/08/115091/

andray blatche and javale mcgee are 7/8 in PER this year

awesome

that was a sick bonner dunk last nite

andray blatche and javale mcgee are 7/8 in PER this year

Yeah the Wizards really nurture talent huh?