yeah, i'm talkin dwight / yeah, i'm talkin steve: 2012-2013 NBA regular season thread (part 1)

i forgot gerald wallace is actually a very good player when he's not hurt, he went hard at the basket a couple of times and still has decent range on his shot

wallace is sort of proto manimal

Sixers GM Tony DiLeo told reporters Saturday that Bynum, who has been dealing with bone bruises in both of his knees, is officially being listed as out “indefinitely” with no timetable for his return to the court.

think portland should use their max cap space on bynum so they can replicate what could've been the greg oden era

also since you guys were talking about GW I've been meaning to mention, with pdx playing brooklyn, but he was traded in exchange for the pick that became lillard and then the nets gave him $98mil so I wonder how the brass is feeling about that one.

lillard is presently a whole lot cheaper than $98mil.

i mean clearly for the future i'd rather have the omen but if wallace can stay healthy he fits really well on the nets- he can create occasionally, swing between 3 and 4, and he and humphries can both help alleviate lopez's allergy to rebounds

i think prokhorov clearly does not give a fuck about payroll size or spending efficiency in the way basically every other team (outside of the lakers) now has to or ought to, so i'm not sure we should bother factoring that into our calculations in any net-related case

fair enough but even if you don't give a fuck its sort of ridiculous to offer a 30 year old with an injury history whose game relies *entirely* on his athleticism $98m/5 years. It's not like Wallace can fall back on his jump shot in his declining years. (He is averaging 7, 4, and 3 in the 4 games he's appeared in this year)

even Paul Allen eventually got sick of the luxury tax

oh no doubt I would rather have lillard and trading for wallace was pretty ridiculous on its face for just the reasons clay noted. I'm just saying the nets owners (Russian Cuban in particular) doesnt care about the price tags attached, at least for now.

I would only care insofar as drafted, rising stars are some of the most valuable commodities in ball both in absolute and value-adjusted terms. which is why phx's insistence on selling draft picks during the Nash era was so galling.

even all that said u need a lot of luck to turn draft picks after 1-2 into real winning players.

btw clay I totally agree w you I just think prokhorov is playing a diff game and will discard gw well before the end of that contract if he declines too steeply

I had just frankly forgotten that there is a competent Nba player in there!

I remember the whole board was super stoked on Wallace at the beginning of last season, and then the blazers started losing and his game completely fell apart. It's pretty plausible that he could become completely useless within a couple years as he ages, which sucks because he's such a unique and compelling talent.

And yeah I agree that prokhorov is doing his own lavish unlimited spending thing, just like Cuban did for the better part of the last dozen years. But it's a losing proposition in the long run for reasons we all know.

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaand another game winning three for ray allen

washington almost won

wizards are bordering on one of the worst run franchises in sports imo

man Brandon Jennings is having a crazy season. So many steals.

and he just had a weird ankle injury

10-15-4-4-0 for verajao tonight, kind of a normal line for him at this point

dunk of the night by Harrison Barnes all over Pekovic

I remember the whole board was super stoked on Wallace at the beginning of last season, and then the blazers started losing and his game completely fell apart. It's pretty plausible that he could become completely useless within a couple years as he ages, which sucks because he's such a unique and compelling talent.

― Clay, Saturday, November 24, 2012 7:21 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Crash had been one of my favorite 3 players in the league for about 5 years until his falloff last year. Just a joy to watch. He has flashes once in a while but he hasn't been the same.

KD (almost) obliterates Hawes:

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1788121/kd-on-hawes.gif

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjECOakCpt8

chances pek has his goons murder barnes' entire family?

!!!

Pek dgaf

i sort of irrationally hate carl landry. i hate his face & his body and basically everything about him

Shved-Stiemsma pick and roll, can you handle the heat?

Landry is having a massive contract year push btw

i sort of irrationally hate carl landry. i hate his face & his body and basically everything about him

― liljon /bia/ bia (k3vin k.), Saturday, November 24, 2012 10:06 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

His face is kinda hateworthy but I like him. Remember when he got shot?

Shved might be the laziest player in the NBA

cant even bother to put all the vowels in his name

Shved is one of my favorite FA signings from this summer. Had a lol watching someone's 11/12 Russian League highlight reel and turned it off when 10/9/8 were all straight-up normal layups.

Hit me tonight by how euro'd out the NBA is now. Seems basically a given that an All-Euro-NBAers team would probably cream the Heat, and I'm not sure how far back I'd have to go where I thought the All Euros from that year would probably beat that year's NBA Champ team (would also lead to Dirking on Dirk, Ginobli flopping after getting eurostepped by Ginobli, etc.).

barea-ridnour-kiri-love-pek lineup, really experimenting in whiteouts now

smh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQ9zKNQKwuw

everything about that is disturbing and depressing. disturpressing.

@JerryZgoda: Deepest sympathies and heartfelt prayers tonight to Kevin McHale and his family on the passing of daughter Sasha today

I can't even imagine. Thoughts, etc. with McHale.

gdamn

That's v sad.

Only 22 years old.

:(

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wow

so the knicks are back to giving up 100 to the pistons, huh?

faried is going very ham right now

Joey Crawford is totally washed up

Rondo taking layups!

holy shit how did it take me this long to realize josh mcroberts looks exactly like charlie kelly from always sunny

rondo absolutely knows he is one rebound away from a triple double, going after everything

then airballs the shot that could have iced the game, lol

at least KG hit 1.