yeah, i'm talkin dwight / yeah, i'm talkin steve: 2012-2013 NBA regular season thread (part 1)

did Karl go "wow I gotta get Javale out of there, that fadeaway swish was uncalled for"

i don't know if it would have changed anything, but ty lawson wasn't bringing much to the table tonight and didn't need to be in the game. why take out your hottest player?

the sequence was like buzzer beater hook shot--blocked shot--fadeaway jumper swish--benched for the rest of the game.

it was a truly mesmerizing 5 minutes

gallos very childish.... man

(at least more than javale)

OMG JAVALE

― chief beef (k3vin k.), Friday, November 16, 2012 12:50 AM (32 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

START JAVALE

― Matt Armstrong, Friday, November 16, 2012 12:50 AM (31 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ON THE ALL STAR TEAM

― chief beef (k3vin k.), Friday, November 16, 2012 12:50 AM (31 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

mike miller straightaway threes, ok

― chief beef (k3vin k.), Friday, November 16, 2012 12:51 AM (31 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

*andre

― chief beef (k3vin k.), Friday, November 16, 2012 12:51 AM (31 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

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― Matt Armstrong, Friday, November 16, 2012 12:52 AM (30 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

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― chief beef (k3vin k.), Friday, November 16, 2012 12:52 AM (30 minutes ago)

1. why shoot that ball

2. why he didnt tried to take the loose ball ???

3. and yea, pathethic games from ty & corey

pathetic*

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1743529/gallinar-airball.gif

nick young shot selection here

lol @ the bosh effort to give one more rebound to kenneth

McGee hit a fadeaway, then swatted a Bosh layup into the stands on the next possession and then was immediately benched for the final 7:39.

gallo was wide open, it wasn't a bad shot

there's nothing wrong with that gallo shot if you're a good three point shooter moullet

i don't know if it would have changed anything, but ty lawson wasn't bringing much to the table tonight and didn't need to be in the game. why take out your hottest player?

― chief beef (k3vin k.), Friday, November 16, 2012 1:19 AM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark

they kept lawson in the game so that miami was forced to play cole. if they went big w/ just one guard the heat could've taken cole off the floor

how well does McGee have to play to get more than 21 minutes

i think for javale to play more than 21 minutes he has have a brain transplant

Damn faried had 16-20-0

i think for javale to play more than 21 minutes he has have a brain transplant

― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Friday, November 16, 2012 6:31 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

haha cuz he's dumb check out this funny youtube right

too bad he's not a basketball genius like Corey Brewer

i think the heat only playing one true big forced karl to choose faried or javale and obv you'd choose faried every time

haha cuz he's dumb check out this funny youtube right

― Matt Armstrong, Friday, November 16, 2012 1:33 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

is javale your brother or something, what's up?

you're hating on him, what's up with you?

I mean seriously dude, you don't think it's fucking weird that he gets benched the final 8 minutes of this game?

he probably should've come in at some point in the final 8 minuts but i'm not sure i want to see javale playing in crunch time

but anyway i don't think it's "weird"... it's clear what karl was doing. he was playing two guards to keep cole on the floor, then putting in two wings & a big to match up w/ the heat

then how about not sitting him until he goes a possession or two without scoring or blocking a shot

heat's crunch time line up was cole/ray/battier/bron/bosh... javale doesn't fit into that at all

unless you bench faried, which would've been stupider

Faried was 5-16

yeah but faried is a beast on the boards & javale is a horrible rebounder

and javale sucks at defense

i mean you're essentially saying that karl should've kept javale in because he was throwing in hook shots & fadeaways

their lineup seemed fine to me when battier was getting his ass kicked on the boards by faried and McGee was swatting Bosh's shots into the stands but I guess you gotta adjust to whatever Spoelstra does

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according to statistical service Synergy Sports, Denver’s Andre Iguodala held LeBron James to just six points on 9 possessions when directly defending him. Danilo Gallinari? Four points on six possessions.

re: gallo

he was not "wide open", he was open, and battier covered it well. he released it v fast because of the defense. read this morning he is playing through injuries, which seems alright. i do not hate on gallo, just think that, if u re playing hurt and strugglin to shoot the ball, u dont do that. move the ball or drive

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Denver again had amazingly low FT rate (19/88) for team that drives so much. Nearly best in 11-12, now nearly worst w/ same players.

i can only begin to imagine how much clay hates felton right now ^___^

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“That’s fair to second-guess,” Karl said after the game, “I just don’t feel comfortable playing JaVale and Kenneth Faried in defensive schemes (down the stretch), I think we make too many mistakes. I thought JaVale played great and when I took him out (with 7:39 left), I was initially thinking about putting him back in the game. But the matchups for me, I was choosing between Kenneth and JaVale, and I went with Kenneth.”

heat's crunch time line up was cole/ray/battier/bron/bosh... javale doesn't fit into that at all

― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Friday, November 16, 2012 1:40 AM (8 hours ago)

faried has guarded lebron a bunch btw. you could also hide him on battier and stick javale on bosh. there were plenty of ways to play this that didn't involve benching the hottest player on the team

if you put faried on battier -- who just hangs by the 3 point line -- then you take one of the best rebounders in the NBA out of the paint in favor of a guy who is a pretty bad rebounder. and faried can't guard lebron.

going big vs the heat makes sense when you have guys who can get their own offense in the post. the nuggets don't run sets through javale mcgee.

He scored in the post the whole game.

Battier guarding Faried is part of the reason Faried had 400 offensive rebounds.

nuggz didn't need to worry about rebounding as much with the heat going small anyway. and javale good rebounder btw...? - he'd be better if he wasn't so focused on shot-blocking, but his rebound rates are 16/16/16 which is pretty solid

i mean look you were obviously right about karl's thought process, i'm just not convinced you play defensively (that is, reacting to the other team's lineup) when a player is having a game like that and you're in the middle of a huge comeback. again we're arguing a counterfactual to an extent - who knows what would have happened - but it probably couldn't have been worse

and btw with chalmers hurt or in the doghouse and wade out, was spo really gonna sit cole? i know theoretically they should just run lebron or wade at the point more but i don't think spo really does that too much. i'd have to check the lineup data

he was not "wide open", he was open, and battier covered it well. he released it v fast because of the defense. read this morning he is playing through injuries, which seems alright. i do not hate on gallo, just think that, if u re playing hurt and strugglin to shoot the ball, u dont do that. move the ball or drive

You're moving the goalposts a bit, so now it's just a bad shot in the context of his injuries, shooting slump etc. As shots go it was an open one and not a bad shot to take in transition. Ray Allen shoots it there like 90% and then Battier gets ripped for playing so far off.

Anthony appeared frustrated by the lack of touches, shaking his head and laughing when the Knicks rotated the ball away from him late in the second quarter.

Anthony got aggressive after that possession, taking four shots in the final 3 minutes of the first half. He was blocked twice by Duncan under the basket. The first block resulted in Anthony's own follow-up basket and the second led to a 3-pointer by Green with 0.8 seconds that gave the Spurs a 57-55 lead at halftime.

Anthony finished with nine points on 3-for-12 shooting from the field.

"There was a point in the game where I huddled everybody up and said use me as a decoy. And it worked out there," Anthony said. "Pop did a great job of not even double-teaming me, but triple-teaming me; every time I touched the ball, making me see three guys."

suuuuure

really wish i could actually watch the knicks play

and btw with chalmers hurt or in the doghouse and wade out, was spo really gonna sit cole? i know theoretically they should just run lebron or wade at the point more but i don't think spo really does that too much. i'd have to check the lineup data

― chief beef (k3vin k.), Friday, November 16, 2012 11:13 AM (46 minutes ago) Bookmark

i think if denver had gone w/ one guard that spo would've gone with bron/ray/battier/bosh + someone else. cole played 39 minutes! that's insane.

M@tt you're boys are going down tonight. It's the battle of the depleteds.

javale was playing great, but it's not like he's a proven low post scorer. an argument can be made either way between faried and him down the stretch, but yeah i have more faith in faried not fucking up in crunch time moreso than javale.