yeah, i'm talkin dwight / yeah, i'm talkin steve: 2012-2013 NBA regular season thread (part 1)

Rookie Austin Rivers will start at shooting guard in Gordon's place Wednesday against the Spurs.

well thank god

yeah that's probably a bargain for curry if he can actually find the court

omg why

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA
Toronto and DeMar DeRozan have made progress today in talks on a 4-year extension, but no deal yet in place, league sources tell Y! Sports.

sure why not. he's one of the best players in the whole country

heh

hes rfa, just match if they want to keep him

cant understand .......

.... nba teams ...

colangelo seems hellbent on destroying a team that could actually somehow be good

5/80 for harden, per woj

eric gordon: marcus thornton with constant injuries

there's nothing wrong with re-signing Derozan. Re-signing ok players is ok. But they'll pay him too much cuz it's Colangelo.

gsw-phx (just kidding)

― all mods con (k3vin k.), Wednesday, October 31, 2012 9:05 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

First 10 seconds of this is for you, pal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZEo15ZK5wk

pau doesn't hit threes also bosh is the best big man in the league cutting to the hoop (i learned this yesterday reading SI's nba preview issue which has an arguably unnecessarily long spread on the pick & roll)

― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, October 31, 2012 3:00 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

bosh doesn't hit threes either

the boston celtics would beg to differ

Bosh made 66 threes in 9 NBA seasons

pau hit 7 last year and Bosh hit 10

anyway even if he's not a knockdown 3 point shooter (which he may not be) he's made enough/showed that range to the point that he has to be guarded out there by bigs, which is kind of the point anyway

"which he may not be"

he's hit 66 threes in 9 NBA seasons at 29% wtf dude

well obviously i'm talking about bosh and the heat talking about him expanding his range out to the point and projecting a bit for this season based on him shooting 5-10 from three in the playoffs after he got back from his injury

i'm not saying that he's gonna be dirk on the perimeter or something but he has to be guarded out the three line if he's standing there and can hit that shot

i don't think teams would be too concerned about him out there. i'd rate him and pau about even overall.

yeah i mean i'm not gonna go to the mat defending bosh over pau... they're definitely in the same realm

i'm not saying that he's gonna be dirk on the perimeter or something but he has to be guarded out the three line if he's standing there and can hit that shot

― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, October 31, 2012 8:15 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

you're saying that he's a more diverse offensive player than Pau because he can "hit threes" but he has shown no ability to do this on any consistent basis. Pau shot 40% from three in the playoffs, but everyone knows that a sample size of 5 shots doesn't mean crap. 10 shots doesn't mean crap either.

imo bosh has a long way to go to be compared to pau on off (as a 2 way player too)

not really sure if metta can ball; playoff time hell be ready tho

you're saying that he's a more diverse offensive player than Pau because he can "hit threes" but he has shown no ability to do this on any consistent basis. Pau shot 40% from three in the playoffs, but everyone knows that a sample size of 5 shots doesn't mean crap. 10 shots doesn't mean crap either.

― Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, October 31, 2012 4:25 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

well if pau shooting threes was part of the lakers' offense (and it maybe it should be!) maybe it would mean more. there's been public indications that the heat plan to use bosh as a spacer out to and past the three point line where he can hit shots.

who you gonna believe, training camp hype or your lyin' eyes

well my eyes tell me he can hit threes now but i guess we'll see!

i mean i'm not basing this all on 10 shots of course but the combination of him taking and hitting shots in the playoffs as a concerted part of his game (not, like, end of shot clock heaving) and the fact that he's one of the absolute top mid range shooters in the league who should have little trouble extending his range to the three line if he worked on it in the offseason.

my eyes look at his basketball reference page

i may be totally wrong on this, we'll see in like 60 games. i'm betting on bosh having a really big year.

as long as the heat employ 4 3-pt specialists i don't really see bosh extending his range. they already pay guys to do nothing but stand in the corner.

it's ok to say that Bosh will hit threes in the future or something but to claim that he's superior to Pau in this area because of 5 threes in the playoffs and some positive comments from coaches in training camp is very homer of you

it's ok to say that Bosh will hit threes in the future or something but to claim that he's superior to Pau in this area because of 5 threes in the playoffs and some positive comments from coaches in training camp is very homer of you

― Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, October 31, 2012 4:37 PM (23 seconds ago) Bookmark

okay, i'll retract my statement that bosh is currently a better three point shooter than pau at the moment.

i think bosh has more range than pau (and he is quicker w/his shot plus actually jumps when shooting...both of which help in being a longish range threat) but yeah yet to be seen whether he becomes a legit concern behind the line for opposing teams

this is the least excited i've been about Bulls season opener since the Eddie Robinson/Ron Mercer era. they're not even playing an interesting opponent (kings).

pau > bosh

Kings are hella interesting to me because I am deranged

ugh god

i'm still scarred from the one half of wizards/kings that i watched last season

it sucks that the kings picked TRob, so boring

but Isaiah Thomas, Demarcus, Thornton, fuck yeah. Plus Jimmer is hilarious

so I'm haering harden is reupping for 5 years 80 mil?

yep

pretty dece - I wonder if he got one of those backloaded contracts

idk even what the strategic value of a backloaded contract would be

not really sure if metta can ball; playoff time hell be ready tho
― moullet, Wednesday, October 31, 2012 4:27 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

There was a really great piece written during the playoffs last year about Artest & his ongoing regression, wish I could find it quickly. The crux of it was that Artest had finally lost something in his legs I think, and he was no longer had elite reaction time on defense. So, he went from All-NBA defender to Actually, You Should Probably Go at Him defender. For whatever reason, I came away w/ the impression that Artest probably wouldn't get his legs back and would have to coast on his defensive reputation; once teams found out, he'd basically be out of the league.

Wasn't watching that closely but he looked fine last night. Wish I could find the piece again ... I totally wrote off Artest after reading-- it was very persuasive!

lol @ Bosh being some developing 3pt specialist or something. He's a great offensive player for sure, but it doesn't hurt to have two of the greatest penetrators of the last 20 years driving -> kicking the ball over. IDK how Bosh is a more complete offensive player than Pau since Pau has a much more mature post-up game / better passing skillz. Bosh better at creating .gifs, tho.

A more mature .gif game.

lol

emo bosh is def way better than any parody twitter associated w pau