Does Jordan have enough Bishop Juan skill as an owner
smfh 1 million times
― fapper don (J0rdan S.), Friday, 1 June 2012 22:04 (twelve years ago) link
http://espn.go.com/nba/draft2012/story/_/id/7996057/michael-jordan-needs-sell-hornets
^^the article would actually make more sense if it was about this
― fapper don (J0rdan S.), Friday, 1 June 2012 22:06 (twelve years ago) link
lol @ players running away from workouts in both charlotte and sacramento
― moullet, Sunday, 3 June 2012 00:45 (twelve years ago) link
drummond & biyombo could be like a younger, much less polished version of the perkins/ibaka frontcourt
what about ayon and davis? unheard of
― moullet, Sunday, 3 June 2012 20:21 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Best-CaseWorst-Case-NBA-Comparisons-Added-to-All-2012-Prospects-3943
― J0rdan S., Monday, 4 June 2012 21:00 (eleven years ago) link
chadfordinsider Chad FordLots of teams buzzing about a Dion Waiters promise. Teams say he's canceled all upcoming workouts. Blazers, Raptors, Suns all suspects
― Moreno, Thursday, 7 June 2012 23:52 (eleven years ago) link
lol at "all suspects"
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 7 June 2012 23:55 (eleven years ago) link
it'd be a crime to take him, I guess.
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 7 June 2012 23:57 (eleven years ago) link
i'l never forget when the hawks promised sheldon williams with the 5th pick. like were you really worried that one of those 4 teams ahead of you were gonna lose their shit over him in a workout?!?
― Moreno, Friday, 8 June 2012 00:01 (eleven years ago) link
Skulls like that don't grow on trees.
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 8 June 2012 00:06 (eleven years ago) link
hahaha classic hawks
― call all destroyer, Friday, 8 June 2012 00:09 (eleven years ago) link
wasn't even the worst pick of the top 5 that year
― J0rdan S., Friday, 8 June 2012 00:10 (eleven years ago) link
2006 draft had four outright nuclear bombs in the top 10: adam morrison, shelden williams, patrick o bryant & mohammed sene
― J0rdan S., Friday, 8 June 2012 00:15 (eleven years ago) link
rough year
― call all destroyer, Friday, 8 June 2012 00:17 (eleven years ago) link
Shelden Williams is the best of that bunch, and yet the worst basketball player in his marriage.
― polyphonic, Friday, 8 June 2012 04:40 (eleven years ago) link
― Moreno, Friday, June 8, 2012 12:01 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this was so strange. Maybe the strangest pick ever.
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 8 June 2012 06:17 (eleven years ago) link
Anthony Davis arrived for his pre-draft media interview wearing a T-shirt that read "Check my stats."Thomas Robinson wasn't afraid to share his thoughts when asked to give his input."If you wanted to check the stats, then I'd be the No. 1 pick easily -- if that's what you want to do," Robinson said. "I should get one of those shirts. I'll get a shirt that says, 'Numbers don't lie.' "Robinson thinks he’s the best available player, despite Davis’ accomplishments."I think I play with a different level than everyone else, a different intensity level," Robinson said. "I'm going to play every night -- that's not something every guy [does]. Everybody don't show up every night on a consistent basis. I think out of this group, I probably would say that I'm one of the players that do."
Thomas Robinson wasn't afraid to share his thoughts when asked to give his input.
"If you wanted to check the stats, then I'd be the No. 1 pick easily -- if that's what you want to do," Robinson said. "I should get one of those shirts. I'll get a shirt that says, 'Numbers don't lie.' "
Robinson thinks he’s the best available player, despite Davis’ accomplishments.
"I think I play with a different level than everyone else, a different intensity level," Robinson said. "I'm going to play every night -- that's not something every guy [does]. Everybody don't show up every night on a consistent basis. I think out of this group, I probably would say that I'm one of the players that do."
― moullet, Friday, 8 June 2012 17:13 (eleven years ago) link
(Thomas Robinson carefully places a "Kick Me" sign on his back)
― Aimless, Friday, 8 June 2012 18:16 (eleven years ago) link
http://p.twimg.com/Au3yA49CIAIAxgb.jpg:largehttp://p.twimg.com/Au3yCVECIAEPPUD.jpg:large
― circles, Saturday, 9 June 2012 02:42 (eleven years ago) link
insider shit
― he bit me (it felt like a diss) (m bison), Saturday, 9 June 2012 02:46 (eleven years ago) link
yeah, interesting stuff -- surprised henson is only 6' 10" in shoes... that scares me. and shit, perry jones is almost 7 feet in shoes? i feel he almost has to be a top 5 pick. you just have to risk it. that's insane.
also tyler zeller is a legit 7 footer, i think he's really underrated. dude can run for that size and is very skilled.
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 9 June 2012 02:46 (eleven years ago) link
but then again, henson's measurements are exactly the same as anthony davis. i'm still high on him.
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 9 June 2012 02:48 (eleven years ago) link
henson's 9'3.5" standing reach is pretty bonkers
― circles, Saturday, 9 June 2012 02:54 (eleven years ago) link
henson > zeller > marshall > barnes (imo)
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 9 June 2012 02:55 (eleven years ago) link
jeremy lamb weighs 179 pounds
― the route is ban (k3vin k.), Saturday, 9 June 2012 03:32 (eleven years ago) link
royce white's 4 inches shorter than zeller but has the exact same wingspan O_O. also: huge hands. apparently he grew a beard in honor of john lennon.
― Moreno, Saturday, 9 June 2012 16:03 (eleven years ago) link
someone is gonna get an absolute steal with white at the end of the first round
― the route is ban (k3vin k.), Saturday, 9 June 2012 16:38 (eleven years ago) link
can we declare a moratorium on discussing player height in shoes iit, i mean their heights not in shoes are right there, this stat is also known as 'height'
― lag∞n, Saturday, 9 June 2012 16:42 (eleven years ago) link
do some guys really wear shoes w/inch and a half soles, im skeptical!
― lag∞n, Saturday, 9 June 2012 16:44 (eleven years ago) link
the differnce between height in shoes and in socks can vary wildly from player to player!
― the route is ban (k3vin k.), Saturday, 9 June 2012 16:46 (eleven years ago) link
yeah if u wear 3 pairs of socks and a pair of tom cruises, you could easily add 3 inches
― he bit me (it felt like a diss) (m bison), Saturday, 9 June 2012 16:46 (eleven years ago) link
yeah and maybe some guys wear huge shoes just to get measured!
― lag∞n, Saturday, 9 June 2012 16:46 (eleven years ago) link
its even possible that players might wear some diff shoes throughout their careers, why are they measuring their draft camp workout shoes!
― lag∞n, Saturday, 9 June 2012 16:47 (eleven years ago) link
if i wanna feel tall, i'll wear a rly thin shoes like toms or chucks, then wear some oversized jordans over those THEN i put on snow shoes over that THEN i put on some mini canoes
― he bit me (it felt like a diss) (m bison), Saturday, 9 June 2012 16:48 (eleven years ago) link
i have dece size in roller skates
― lag∞n, Saturday, 9 June 2012 16:48 (eleven years ago) link
my hand width w/catchers mitt is elite
― lag∞n, Saturday, 9 June 2012 16:49 (eleven years ago) link
think how many steals you could have wearing one of those #1 foam fingers
― he bit me (it felt like a diss) (m bison), Saturday, 9 June 2012 16:50 (eleven years ago) link
or if i got that stretch armstrong surgery ive been BEGGING my plastics guy for, dunks from half court ALL DAY
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4242093/ns/health-cosmetic_surgery/t/limb-lengthening-tests-human-willpower
― lag∞n, Saturday, 9 June 2012 16:56 (eleven years ago) link
dont want more bones, just stretchy arms for cartoon dunks
― he bit me (it felt like a diss) (m bison), Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:05 (eleven years ago) link
understandable
― lag∞n, Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:08 (eleven years ago) link
perry jones is almost 7 feet in shoes? i feel he almost has to be a top 5 pick. you just have to risk it. that's insane.
also tyler zeller is a legit 7 footer 6-11, i think he's really underrated. dude can run for that size and is very skilled.
― J0rdan S., Friday, June 8, 2012 10:46 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah youve got to think that perrys stock will rise in workouts w/the type of player he is big athletic and all - agree that zeller is underrated
― lag∞n, Saturday, 9 June 2012 18:04 (eleven years ago) link
Scouts split on Perry Jones By Chad Ford
SANTA BARBARA, Calif. -- On Thursday I made the trip up the California coast from Los Angeles to Santa Barbara to take in the BDA sports group workout.
Led by agents Bill Duffy, Kevin Bradbury, Todd Ramasar, Rade Filipovich, Calvin Andrews, David Mondress and Ugo Udezue, BDA has a number of clients in this year's draft training at the University of California at Santa Barbara. On Thursday they invited more than 80 NBA GMs and scouts to witness a three-hour workout of their clients.
I was on hand to both watch the workouts and to talk to the GMs and scouts in attendance.
Here's what I learned:
The two biggest enigmas in the draft are Connecticut Huskies big man Andre Drummond and Baylor Bears forward Perry Jones. I'll see Drummond in New York early next week.Jones was the headline attraction Thursday. Whether his performance answered the questions NBA teams have about him is open to interpretation.
The workout featured Jones as a wing -- a smart move to validate NBA scouts who believe that Jones was miscast as a center in Baylor's offense the past two years. While Jones has the size of an NBA center, he's a perimeter-oriented big man who shies away from contact in the paint. He always looked more comfortable with the ball in his hands facing the basket than he did backing down a defender in the paint.
Thursday's workouts capitalized on Jones' strengths and featured him in a number of drills alongside other wings like the Vanderbilt Commodores' Jeff Taylor and UC Santa Barbara's Orlando Johnson.
Jones wowed early. He's unusually quick and fluid for a player his size. While he's not a lights-out shooter, he's got a nice stroke and knocked down 7-of-15 from NBA 3-point range in one drill. He's also a solid ball handler for his size and looked very comfortable running all the drills on the perimeter.
What was most impressive was his explosiveness in the paint. When Jones hit the lane, he blasted off the ground for a number of thunderous, highlight-reel dunks.
In many ways he reminded me of another unusually big wing -- Paul George. George measured 6-foot-10 in Indiana Pacers training camp and played the 2 and 3 all season for Indiana. Both are excellent athletes who are comfortable putting the ball on the floor and pulling up for jumpers. Both players were accused of not dominating the game during their two seasons in college. George didn't even make first-team All-WAC as a sophomore.
While George's numbers were slightly better across the board, he was allowed to play the wing in college. Jones, on the other hand, played the 4 and 5 the entire season.
After the workout, some things were clear. Others were not.
Jones is going to look terrific in individual workouts. There are very few players in this or any draft who can do the things he does at his size. A team could easily fall in love with his potential and make him a top-5 pick. George fell all the way to No. 10 on draft night and virtually every team that passed on him now regrets it. If we were to do over the 2010 draft today, he'd be the second or third player off the board.
What is less clear is whether a position change will improve Jones' motor and overall mental toughness. He disappeared for long stretches during Baylor's season and shied away from contact. Was Jones just unhappy with his role at Baylor and therefore not as engaged as he could've been? Or is there something deeper in his personality that saps the competitive edge out of him?
In speaking with Jones on Thursday, he's aware of what teams are concerned about and said he's working on improving his mental toughness and body language. He specifically said he's trying to improve his attitude when his shot doesn't fall early.
Jones has excellent athletic ability.As for the GMs in the room? Everyone I spoke with came away with a different opinion. Here were two of the most representative:
"That sort of talent doesn't come along very often," one GM said. "As I was watching the workout, I thought you finally got to see what a freed-up Perry Jones could do if a coach just lets him be himself. He could be a dominant, and I mean dominant, forward with his size, athletic ability and skill set. I think he's a hard worker and will be a much better contributor if you give him the chance to be himself. I'd have no concerns drafting him in the top five. He could be a home run of a pick."
And the other side ...
"Of all the guys that are in your top 10, I'd have the hardest time taking him," another GM said. "I know he wants to be a 3, but I don't think he does anything that we ask our 3s to do that is special. He's not a great shooter. He doesn't have a great handle. He's not an aggressive defender. He's got great size and athleticism, but he's not skilled enough. That means he'll end up being a stretch 4, which is a euphemism for a guy who doesn't have a position.
"Could he be great? Sure. But I think he's a major project and a major risk. There are safer picks in the top 10 with very good upsides. I think there's a good chance that he slides in the draft as people continue to wrestle with who he is."
I wish I could tell you which camp I'm in. Both seem right, paradoxically.
― lag∞n, Saturday, 9 June 2012 18:08 (eleven years ago) link
yeah, my first thought was paul george when i saw those measurements. feel like jones has to be in consideration for every pick after anthony davis, tho i'd still take MKG over him.
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 9 June 2012 18:22 (eleven years ago) link
also he was miscast at baylor and scott drew is a terrible, terrible coach
― the route is ban (k3vin k.), Saturday, June 9, 2012 4:38 PM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I think he'll go at the end of the lotto in the end.
― Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 9 June 2012 23:13 (eleven years ago) link
PJ3 has no excuses for how he played at Baylor. He showed zero desire or intensity and that's on him.
― Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 9 June 2012 23:14 (eleven years ago) link
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/sports/2003736036_draft06.html
Durant, who will likely be chosen No. 2 in the June 28 draft by the Sonics, was the only player who could not bench press 185 pounds at least once. His overall performance ranked 78th out of 80 prospects, and his lackluster workout appears to have widened the gap between him and Ohio State center Greg Oden, who had an impressive combine.
― the route is ban (k3vin k.), Sunday, 10 June 2012 23:52 (eleven years ago) link
ha iirc durant said re his bench press 'a basketball doesnt weigh that much'
― lag∞n, Sunday, 10 June 2012 23:55 (eleven years ago) link
any insider wanna put up the chad ford mock draft? I and ILH would be very grateful
― High powered Texas lawyer (symsymsym), Thursday, 14 June 2012 07:19 (eleven years ago) link