PS4 and Xbox One

PS4, even though that won't be for at least a year why because PC GAMING. It's interesting to see Microsoft's several months long backpeddling act. Now nu-Kinect doesn't need to be plugged in all the time! But MS aren't going to sell the XBone without it, so you'll still be paying $100 for something you'll never use!

I actually kind of enjoyed my limited experience of the Kinect as a bauble, but in my old apartment I never had enough space for it so it wasn't something I ever considered getting myself, whereas now I could set up my new space pretty easily to accommodate it. And I have enjoyed a few Kinect games I've tried. Is it worth 100 bones? I suppose not.

It was announced today that European XB1 pre-orderers are getting FIFA 14 at no extra cost. I suppose pack-in titles will appear pretty soon, lessening the $100 NSA tax.

I voted PS4 because I have vowed to never buy a Microsoft console. But it might be a few years until I pick one up.

I would vote PS4, but by the time I actually buckle down and get a new system (at least a year, likely years from now), who knows what things will look like...

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Nhex - thinner!

ps4 but not till 2015 at the likely earliest

ps4, prob as soon as there is something i want to play on it

PS4, I expect, but like so many others it won't be for a while. The 'launch window' listings don't hold much of interest to me, so I can see myself getting a Wii-U before I get a PS4/Xbox One. I really dislike the Kinect (more because of the fact it sits there looking in-the-way on my TV stand than anything else), and refuse to pay a premium for something I'll never use, which is why I'm veering more towards the PS4.

Voted PS4 too based on what I'd pick if I had to pick today, but by the time I get around to buying one this could allllll chaaaaaange.

It's a race to A) whichever one has the nicest price drop B) whichever has most appealing exclusive backlog and C) which has the biggest pipeline of potentially interesting exclusives D) whichever actually delivers on the whole "making it easy to acutally play games" thing.

I had a PS2 then a 360 so I might go back to PS this time... well, that's if I buy ANY new gen / next gen (how do you call them, anyway ?).

PS4, but absolutely no hurry.

last guardian could be the tipping point tbh

My PS3 is an occasional bluray player/frequent ornament and my 360 is used daily but I still think PS4 looks like the better next gen option.

Best use of Kinect in game I've seen so far was the ability to shout at zombies to get their attention in Dead Rising 3.

i'll probably get a ps4, probably not until a year or two after it's released. i haven't had a PS console since PS1, so it'll be a nice change of pace. also co-sign on the useless kinect premium thing.

the thing that cracks me up is that if you decide to get Playstation Move, it's still cheaper than getting an Xbone

eheh "X bone".
the only thing is that I really got used to the 360 pad and didn't like the PS2's at all.
I don't know if they will change the pads for the nextgen.

err PS3 pad I mean.

I had no problem with the PS2 pad.

totally, wish i could do a PS4 with an Xbox controller.

PS4, but absolutely no hurry.

― EZ Snappin, Thursday, August 22, 2013 10:24 AM

^this unless... dark souls II is somehow announced for next gen

totally, wish i could do a PS4 with an Xbox controller.

This is part of the reason I'm not sure, because I vastly prefer the 360 controller, even though the d-pad sucks.

New PS4 controller is supposedly a HUGE improvement over the prior versions. Bigger, actual triggers, better grip, better thumbsticks.

as an adult man with little baby fingers, I am somewhat scared by the idea of a larger controller

It's not like it's "The Duke" from the original xbox. Check the video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6n6Bnie57A

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damn!

xbox (sadtromb)one

oof.

do we know the price of each console yet ?

(it always feels like such a rip off that the price in dollar and in euro is the same...)

Try looking at the price in UK pounds. We really get ripped off here.

The most fun I have gaming these days is with my friends, and they are all planning on getting an xbox, so...

PS4 is $399/EUR399/£349
Xbone is $499/EUR499/£429

PS4 is US$399 in the US. European price is US$532.21. UK price is US$545.21.
XBoned is US$499 in the US. European price is US$666.86. UK price is US$670.36.

oh, so the PS4 will be less expensive than the Xbone ? I would have thought the other way around.
is one supposed to be technically better than the other at this point ? (sorry for the silly questions and for not digging out the info myself !)
maybe I should go by the PS in the US !

PS4 has better specs, Xbone is more expensive because of mandatory Kinect2.0

OK, so no suprise (almost) everybody will get a PS4 then !

in the first couple of years games will probably look v similar on both machines, PS4 might have better framerates. later on when programmers get more used to the tech PS4 games will start to look better. Xbone will probably sell well in the US & UK to people locked into Xbox Live via 360 who are used to gaming with their friends, the rest of the world looks pretty set to go PS4 though.

isn't it suicidal from MS to have the Xbone 100$ more expensive than the PS4 ?
If I remember well, Sony had reduced the price of the PS3 so that it wasn't too much more expensive than the 360.

and one of those votes for xbone was mine, and it was an error!

http://www.businessinsider.com/why-microsoft-xbox-kinect-didnt-take-off-2015-9

I'm an Xbox man. Always have been. But I think I'm going to buy a next gen system today and everything is telling me "PS4"...but it feels wrong to switch now.

there's really not much to choose between 'em at this point - xbox one is maybe better as an all-round media player, ps4 is still usually (marginally) better on resolution / framerates? i guess it comes down to which controller you prefer and which system has the more attractive exclusives.

(and, if multiplayer matters to you, where most of your friends will be playing, i guess)

why is the xbone a better media player? what are its strengths?

not so much that it's a great player so much as the ps4 is weirdly lacking in stuff like dnla streaming

are we setting up an ILX PS4 community now that 3.00 is out

i'm all for it

Or - get a good deal on a 500gb system, buy this 2TB external drive, crack it open and stuff it into your PS4, voila 2TB PS4

p awful user experience that you get a new ps4 and as you try to play it it endlessly keeps downloading updates and patches for the game you want to play. with about 15 clickthrough menus about update 1.001 or whatever. guess i'll watch tv while patch two downloads for another 20 minutes.

Yeah, that has been my experience since I got it. Extra controller is a must. These babies can't handle my marathoning.

i had to get fifa with it as it was cheaper than without - but i intend to get the new pro evo and maybe trade fifa in. i got metal gear solid - will probably get dentistry or perhaps batman also.

any of you have the new pro evo? i'm LOCALGARDA if so - literally just turned it on.

I've never owned two consoles simultaneously, and I've never owned Playstation. I went with the Xbox One because that's the route most of my friends went. But I really really really want to play two PS4 exclusives, Until Dawn and Last of Us. Just not sure I want to invest 380 dollars for two games. There are no other Playstation exclusives I want to play. Decisions, decisions.

wait til Black Friday deal, buy & play those two games & then sell the lot?
I've been playing Dragon Quest Heroes and ehhhhh this game is not doing it for me, the maps are too small and I dislike tower defense games and was unaware that was a key mechanic in this game.

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2015/10/22/xbox-hardware-sales-down-xbox-live-user-up-to-39-million.aspx
Wow I guess XB1 sales are really that bad that they need to hide the sales now... but I would've been more optimistic with the holiday bundles (Halo 5/Tomb Raider Reboot 2/Fallout 4/Forza Whatever).

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARHVKZ5K1b0

Xbox One at $300 next week, or PS4 at $350? Will Sony drop the PS4 price in response to the Xbox price drop (which is temporary but expected to go permanent shortly after)?

if u have to play "knack" the answer is clear

different is, PS4 doesn't need to pricedrop as it's actually selling

one deciding factor for me (i bought my PS4 late last year) was the general sense that most of my friends were gravitating toward PS4 and that it seems to have more momentum. that doesn't mean it's a better system, but it probably means you'll have more people to play multiplayer with (if that's a thing for you) and that there will be more system exclusives/games coming out for PS4 first, etc.

PS4.5? http://kotaku.com/sources-sony-is-working-on-a-ps4-5-1765723053

Yeah I'm still leaning PS4.

the one thing that tempts to eventually get an XBone is MS's backwards compatibility commitment (for the moment) which is nice considering the bajillion 360 games, physical and digital, that i have backlogged

but otherwise PS4 feels like the runaway winner at this point

Sony is still pushing 4K, huh

Xbox One Spring Bundle

or

refurb PS4?

?

forgot I basically asked about this four months ago

all the free games in the bundle would be nice but none of them really look like my kind of games, plus i usually just play one game at a time. so should probably get the refurb ps4 and a game i actually want to play.

good advice

I will never buy a refurb again if I can help it. Or, rather, I would prefer to be the one doing the refurbing if it came down to it.

that's what I was just going to ask, if refurb is ok or not. reading online it seems pretty risky.

I would avoid a refurb just because deals are/will be plentiful with the new/slim/upgraded consoles coming out. Though X1 has already seen massive cuts this year, PS4 deals will be coming soon enough. Not to mention VR...

Based on the research I did after my old PS3 went tits-up, if you do get a refurb, make sure that they have legitimately reballed the GPU and haven't just done a reflow. The difference being that the reflow just involves melting the existing solder and is much less reliable, whereas a reball involves completely replacing all of the solder points on the GPU. It's more involved and therefore more expensive but well worth it if you want something that's going to last. And from what I've read, a professional reball may very well improve on the work done in the factory.

but there's no way to know what was done in refurbishing a specific console, right? i guess unless you have the knowledge to open it up and see for yourself.

Yeah, not without taking it apart. I guess if you buy it from a physical storefront, ask them to show you their (solder) balls. I doubt they'd have them if they don't use them.

there have been new PS4 deals for around 250 recently, keep an eye on https://www.reddit.com/r/PS4Deals/

and anyway, Bloodborne + Last Of Us + some of the exclusives coming in next year or two make PS the obvious choice for me.

I ended up getting a new PS4. Due to convoluted reasons, I ended up getting the Uncharted 4 bundle, which means I get play Uncharted 4 (yay) but also have an embarrassing PS4 with Uncharted 4 artwork on it (boo).

i only played the first 2 but i hear the 2nd is the best of the series so i feel confident in my determination that they are... not great games.

does the uncharted 4 artwork peel off

Scalebound cancelled http://www.windowscentral.com/xbox-exclusive-scalebound-has-been-canceled
Struggling to think what Xbox has for this year, that Rare pirate game and ... ?

Project Scorpio still seems to be on track for Holiday 2017

The Scalebound gameplay video was so incredibly stupid it's no loss.

Yep it looked bad. Scorpio sounds great on paper - but what games will there be for it? Xbox exclusives lineup seems fairly week, and unless they have a ton of stuff in the works, I have a feeling
that people will upgrade and then wonder why... reason being that most third party developers are going to develop for both the PS and Xbox platforms at the same time, thats just how it works financially, so it seems like the only major advantage to Scorpio if it doesnt have major exclusives would be improved framerate and resolution on those cross-platform third party games - which is great of course... but why not just get a PC?

crackdown 3 is the only thing i'm looking forward to this year, but i'm looking forward to it a lot - the first game was one of my favourites of the last gen

is there a good all purpose xbox one thread? trying to find out what's worth playing on the Game Pass.

(currently installed: Witcher III, Outer Worlds, Outer Wilds, Forza 4, Nier Automata, Doom, Gears 5, the 2nd Ori game)

forza horizon 4 is the best exclusive

i think yakuza 0 is on there now which is one of the best games of the past decade

some good indies: yoku's island express, steamworld dig 2, lonely mountains downhill

Some random ideas:

Two Point Hospital
Rocket League
Fallout New Vegas
Untitled Goose Game
Subnautica
A Plague Tale: Innocence
Bridge Constructor Portal
Hollow Knight
Life Is Strange 2
Minit
Slay the Spire
Ori 1
Astroneer
Children of Morta
Wargroove
Doom
Wolfensteins
Void Bastards
Steamworld Dig 2
Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night
Dead Cells
Dishonored 2
Monster Hunter World
Tekken 7

I played thru LIS 1 on the PS3 but have been wary of LIS 2, is it comparable in terms of quality?

I forgot to mention I installed and played thru the first hour or so of Yakuza 0...seems ok so far but not totally sold yet

I've only done episode 1 of both Life Is Stranges. I know the second one didn't resonate as much with fans of the first, but I found it pretty moving. Maybe too corny for some.

Yakuza 0 really shines with some of the goofier side missions and mini games, IMO. The cabaret club game totally derailed me from the main storyline.

yakuza 0 is god tier

I feel like this chip shortage might end up giving my xbox one a slightly longer shelf life in terms of developers not wanting to release stuff only for next-gen consoles :)

Yeah they’ll release games for the prior gen and they’ll run badly and then they’ll apologize to the small number of complainers or whatever

Dear gamer, we are so sorry, please accept 400 game bux which can only be spent in the game store, in the hat section

I sold my XBox One X thinking I could get a PS5 this spring to play Tony Hawk and MLB.

Oooooops.

I know they couldn't have predicted the chip shortage (is this the same shortage hampering car production?), but it really feels like they rushed the release of PS5 and nu Xbox. Like, it could have waited a year to have the same impact, imo.

i believe it is the same chip shortage affecting cars

it seems like 6-7 years in the standard gap between Sony systems ('94, '00, '06, '13, '20). I agree one extra year would've been fine

for comparison
Xbox was '01, '05, '13
Nintendo was '83, '90, '96, '01, '06, '12, '17